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  • Re: Why aren't they spending?

    From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Sep 12 16:08:32 2020
    On 2020-09-12, Keith <powellaw@aol.com> wrote:
    On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:54:08 PM UTC-4, Bruce Scott wrote:
    It can be a trap. We Orioles fans still remember Albert Belle.
    ciao, Bruce

    We Orioles fans don't need to remember Albert Belle - we're living
    through Chris Davis.

    Oh my, there's another one is there?

    I've been out of touch since (1) we're so bad I don't so often tune in for highlights on mlb.com, and (2) baseball went behind a paywall here. The
    last big moment for me was Oregon St repeating as national champs in 2007
    with that amazing run through all the regionals and then 5-0 in the CWS

    And I didn't buy tickets for the 1983 World Series, thinking there would
    be another one after I finished my studies and got a job :-)

    Somehow that pitching talent fountain dried up and it's never been the
    same. And that was several years before Angelos.

    --
    ciao, Bruce
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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sat Sep 12 16:11:08 2020
    On 2020-09-12, Al Kamista <alkamista@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:54:08 PM UTC-4, Bruce Scott wrote:
    So maybe he is stingy but maybe he is hand-tied...

    Highly subjective. He only has one year left on his contract, he's had
    injury issues, and we're in the middle of a massive recession.

    Like Boateng, he stood out having an unusually healthy year. But he's
    got a good 3-4 more years at top level in him. And I thought the price
    was cheap, but then you're quite right, I forgot about the UK situation,
    though had read about it. The hit is large and it's not over yet.

    I stepped down as Liverpool's Sporting Director at the end of last
    season, so it's not really in my hands anymore, unfortunately.

    :-)

    --
    ciao, Bruce
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  • From Mehdi@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Sep 13 10:22:39 2020
    On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:08:04 -0700, Werner Pichler wrote:

    A great look at Liverpool's finances by the ever superb Swiss Ramble:

    https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1302855202089971713


    Ciao,
    Werner

    The lack of player sales is the problem. Liverpool's sellable assets are players
    that would be impossible to replace. They can't even contemplate selling Allisson, Mane, Salah, VVD, Robertson or TTA and I doubt any big club would be interested in signing Firmino because running hard only appeals to Mourinho
    and Conte types. Klopp has to integrate more players from the youth team or this could be a case of Liverpool falling from the top over the same period of time it took them to get there i.e. 4 years.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Al Kamista@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Sep 13 06:30:53 2020
    On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 6:22:45 AM UTC-4, v2m...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:08:04 -0700, Werner Pichler wrote:

    A great look at Liverpool's finances by the ever superb Swiss Ramble:

    https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1302855202089971713


    Ciao,
    Werner
    The lack of player sales is the problem. Liverpool's sellable assets are players
    that would be impossible to replace. They can't even contemplate selling Allisson, Mane, Salah, VVD, Robertson or TTA and I doubt any big club would be
    interested in signing Firmino because running hard only appeals to Mourinho and Conte types. Klopp has to integrate more players from the youth team or this could be a case of Liverpool falling from the top over the same period of
    time it took them to get there i.e. 4 years.

    That's a good summary of the situation. I fear that FSG may be grooming LFC for a major sale in the next 2-3 years, with a second Anfield expansion planned and Klopp's contract extension to 2023. The club is already valued at 6x of their purchase price.

    But they have stuck with the Red Sox, so maybe I'm wrong.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Keith@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Sep 13 10:47:27 2020
    On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 12:08:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce Scott wrote:
    On 2020-09-12, Keith <powe...@aol.com> wrote:
    On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:54:08 PM UTC-4, Bruce Scott wrote:
    It can be a trap. We Orioles fans still remember Albert Belle.
    ciao, Bruce

    We Orioles fans don't need to remember Albert Belle - we're living
    through Chris Davis.
    Oh my, there's another one is there?

    Highlights from Chris Davis's Wikipedia article:
    On January 21, 2016 [NOTE: three months shy of being 30 yrs old], Davis signed a 7-year, $161 million contract to stay with the Orioles, the richest contract in Orioles history.
    "In 159 games of 2016, Davis finished the year with a .221/.332/.459 batting line. He hit 38 home runs (8th in the American League), 84 RBIs, 88 walks (4th in the AL), and struck out an MLB-leading 219 times and a major-league-leading 32.9% of the time.
    For the 2017 season, he batted .215/.309/.423 overall. He had 195 strikeouts (3rd in the American League), striking out a major-league-leading 37.2% of the time, and batted .208/.293/.326 against left-handers.
    Davis started the 2018 season with a .150 batting average and 86 strikeouts in his first 57 games. On June 15, the Orioles announced that Davis would be benched. Davis ended his season hitting .168/.243/.296 with 16 home runs with 192 strikeouts (4th in the American League) in 128 games, and struck out in a major-league-leading 36.8% of his at bats. His $23 million salary was the 10th-highest in the league. His .168 batting average, .243 on base percentage, and .296 slugging percentage were each the lowest of all qualified major league batters,[99] and the .168 batting average was the lowest of all-time for qualified MLB hitters.[100] He was 4th of all active MLB players in career strikeouts, with 1,696.
    At the end of the 2018 season, starting September 14, Davis began a hitless streak that lasted through his last 21 at bats of the season and continued into 2019. On April 8, 2019, Davis's streak set a new Major League record for the most consecutive at bats by a position player without a hit, and he ended that game against the Athletics still hitless, at 0-for-49. Davis ended his streak on April 13, after 54 consecutive at bats without a hit, with a two-run single against the Red Sox. Heading towards the end of the season, Davis saw his playing time diminish, ending the season hitting .179 in 105 games."
    Last I saw stats for this year, he was batting around .110. His appearances this year have been dwindling. His $23M/yr contract has two more years...
    Keith
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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Sep 13 21:24:45 2020
    On 2020-09-13, Keith <powellaw@aol.com> wrote:

    Highlights from Chris Davis's Wikipedia article:
    [...]

    What a slide. Unbelievable. Useless. At least with Belle it was more a tale of injuries. Weaver's O's were always the three-run HR team, but it is too extreme hoping for another HR sandwiched among 6-8 strikeouts.

    Having not read very much in recent years I was not aware of this. But the
    O's used to be better at gauging players.

    Last I saw stats for this year, he was batting around .110. His
    appearances this year have been dwindling. His $23M/yr contract has
    two more years...

    I wonder what Eddie Murray thinks of this. Or Boog.

    --
    ciao, Bruce
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Sun Sep 13 17:49:48 2020
    On 2020-09-13 15:24, Bruce Scott wrote:
    On 2020-09-13, Keith <powellaw@aol.com> wrote:

    Highlights from Chris Davis's Wikipedia article:
    [...]

    What a slide. Unbelievable. Useless. At least with Belle it was more a tale
    of injuries. Weaver's O's were always the three-run HR team, but it is too extreme hoping for another HR sandwiched among 6-8 strikeouts.

    Having not read very much in recent years I was not aware of this. But the O's used to be better at gauging players.

    Last I saw stats for this year, he was batting around .110. His
    appearances this year have been dwindling. His $23M/yr contract has
    two more years...

    I wonder what Eddie Murray thinks of this. Or Boog.

    Is Boog any relation of Keith's ?

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  • From Keith@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Sep 14 07:13:23 2020
    On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 7:49:52 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

    Is Boog any relation of Keith's ?

    Unfortunately, no.

    Keith
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  • From Bruce Scott@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Sep 14 21:35:42 2020
    On 2020-09-14, Keith <powellaw@aol.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 7:49:52 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

    Is Boog any relation of Keith's ?

    Unfortunately, no.

    Nice piece on him phoning into a local talk show when he wrote his book.
    I've always been interested in his barbecue place at the stadium, but
    I haven't been in that part of the US since I left (well before op@cy
    was built).

    --
    ciao, Bruce
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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