That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:
Could Union Saint-Gilloise be for real? Four points clear at the half-point of the season,
in their first campaign in the top flight since 1973. Proper old-timey club with 11 championships
to their name between 1904 and 1935, and nothing since.
Of course, there's still the stupid 4-team championship play-off with halving of the points
awaiting.
And also, as so often in Belgium, there's multi-club ownership to contend with - Union SG's
current success is mostly due to having been 'rebuilt' by Brighton owner Tony Bloom according
to Moneyball principles.
Former SV Meppen player Deniz Undav with 16 goals and 9 assists in 17 matches for Union so
far this season. The above mentioned Moneyball stats must be worth their salt, because
I must have seen the guy play in the stadium in a 3. Liga match against 1860 back in 2019, and
he didn't leave any impression on me whatsoever.
Ciao,
Werner
On 2021-12-04 15:12, Werner Pichler wrote:Well, ever since the INEOS takeover two years ago and their correspondent increase
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:
Could Union Saint-Gilloise be for real? Four points clear at the half-point of the season,
in their first campaign in the top flight since 1973. Proper old-timey club with 11 championships
to their name between 1904 and 1935, and nothing since.
Of course, there's still the stupid 4-team championship play-off with halving of the pointsPlus Bruges might have more energy for the league after their CL exit.
awaiting.
I have to confess I had never heard of Union Saint-Gilloise until this
year. I didn't even know St. Gilles was a quartier of Brussels, though I have spent a lot of time in Brussels because of the in-laws. It is
quite close to Anderlecht, where I have been, but most of the time I
stayed around the centre, or in places like Schaerbeek, Ixelles,
Wezembeek, Uccle, and Woluwe, which is where the various beaux-fr|?res
and belles-soeurs live or have lived.
West Ham making the top 4 would be a major accomplishment, and so far
they look pretty solid.
Dunno how much of an upset Atalanta actually winning would be considered after a couple of CL qualifications.
Both Seville teams and Real Sociedad have realistic chances of a top 2
or 3 finish.
And Nice making the CL, certainly possible, would be quite a surprise
and a real vindication of Galtier's merits as a coach.
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:Looking around a bit, Croatia (one matchday away from the half-way point)
is more interesting than usual:
1 Rijeka 36
2 Osijek 35
3 Hajduk Split 33
4 Dinamo Zagreb 31 (1 game in hand)
Osijek have never won the title, Rijeka have won it once, five years ago, and Hajduk have been waiting since 2007.
On 2021-12-04 15:12, Werner Pichler wrote:Having extended their lead to nine points around New Year's, SG faltered a little bit due to a
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:
Could Union Saint-Gilloise be for real? Four points clear at the half-point of the season,
in their first campaign in the top flight since 1973. Proper old-timey club with 11 championships
to their name between 1904 and 1935, and nothing since.
Of course, there's still the stupid 4-team championship play-off with halving of the points
awaiting.
Plus Bruges might have more energy for the league after their CL exit.
I have to confess I had never heard of Union Saint-Gilloise until this
year. I didn't even know St. Gilles was a quartier of Brussels, though I have spent a lot of time in Brussels because of the in-laws. It is
quite close to Anderlecht, where I have been, but most of the time I
stayed around the centre, or in places like Schaerbeek, Ixelles,
Wezembeek, Uccle, and Woluwe, which is where the various beaux-fr|?res
and belles-soeurs live or have lived.
West Ham making the top 4 would be a major accomplishment, and so farNone of the above look very likely anymore (except Sevilla finishing third).
they look pretty solid.
Dunno how much of an upset Atalanta actually winning would be considered after a couple of CL qualifications.
Both Seville teams and Real Sociedad have realistic chances of a top 2
or 3 finish.
And Nice making the CL, certainly possible, would be quite a surprise
and a real vindication of Galtier's merits as a coach.
Undav now with 25 goals and 10 assists in 33 matches. Not bad at all. Unsurprisingly, he has alreadyAnd also, as so often in Belgium, there's multi-club ownership to contend with - Union SG's
current success is mostly due to having been 'rebuilt' by Brighton owner Tony Bloom according
to Moneyball principles.
Former SV Meppen player Deniz Undav with 16 goals and 9 assists in 17 matches for Union so
far this season. The above mentioned Moneyball stats must be worth their salt, because
I must have seen the guy play in the stadium in a 3. Liga match against 1860 back in 2019, and
he didn't leave any impression on me whatsoever.
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:Looks like Dinamo have steadied the ship
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:Looking around a bit, Croatia (one matchday away from the half-way point)
is more interesting than usual:
1 Rijeka 36
2 Osijek 35
3 Hajduk Split 33
4 Dinamo Zagreb 31 (1 game in hand)
Osijek have never won the title, Rijeka have won it once, five years ago, and Hajduk have been waiting since 2007.
Also, not exactly a surprise, but the currently closest title race in Europe is the one in Ukraine::-(
1 Shakhtar Donetsk 14-2-1 47-9 38
2 Dynamo Kyiv 14-2-1 46-8 38
On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 10:20:33 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:1-0 for Hajduk, decisive goal scored by sorry-but-no World Cup medalist Nikola Kalini-c.
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:12:59 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:Looking around a bit, Croatia (one matchday away from the half-way point) is more interesting than usual:
1 Rijeka 36
2 Osijek 35
3 Hajduk Split 33
4 Dinamo Zagreb 31 (1 game in hand)
Osijek have never won the title, Rijeka have won it once, five years ago, and Hajduk have been waiting since 2007.Looks like Dinamo have steadied the ship
1 Dinamo Zagreb 63 (1 game in hand)
2 Osijek 61
3 Hajduk Split 56 (1 game in hand)
4 Rijeka 55
Long postponed match Hajduk vs Dinamo on April 20.
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 11:28:15 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:Yep, Union SG lost both Championship Play-Off games against Brugge, and now the title's all but
On 2021-12-04 15:12, Werner Pichler wrote:
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:29:32 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
That was a fun idea at the beginning of last season to
speculate about potential upsets in the major European
leagues.
2021/22 edition:
Could Union Saint-Gilloise be for real? Four points clear at the half-point of the season,
in their first campaign in the top flight since 1973. Proper old-timey club with 11 championships
to their name between 1904 and 1935, and nothing since.
Of course, there's still the stupid 4-team championship play-off with halving of the points
awaiting.
Plus Bruges might have more energy for the league after their CL exit.
I have to confess I had never heard of Union Saint-Gilloise until this year. I didn't even know St. Gilles was a quartier of Brussels, though I have spent a lot of time in Brussels because of the in-laws. It is
quite close to Anderlecht, where I have been, but most of the time I stayed around the centre, or in places like Schaerbeek, Ixelles, Wezembeek, Uccle, and Woluwe, which is where the various beaux-fr|?res
and belles-soeurs live or have lived.
Having extended their lead to nine points around New Year's, SG faltered a little bit due to a
number of scoreless draws and the correctly predicted late Brugge surge, but at the end of the
regular season they're still five points ahead (if, as logic dictates, they eventually get the three
points from their match yesterday against dead last Beerschot that had to be abandoned because
of crowd trouble).
Of course, halving the points means that with six games among the Top 4 remaining they're
now less than three points ahead of a Brugge side that have won their last eight league matches.
2021/22 edition:
Could Union Saint-Gilloise be for real? Four points clear at the half-point of the season,
in their first campaign in the top flight since 1973. Proper old-timey club with 11 championships
to their name between 1904 and 1935, and nothing since.
Of course, there's still the stupid 4-team championship play-off with halving of the points
awaiting.
Plus Bruges might have more energy for the league after their CL exit.
I have to confess I had never heard of Union Saint-Gilloise until this
year. I didn't even know St. Gilles was a quartier of Brussels, though I >>> have spent a lot of time in Brussels because of the in-laws. It is
quite close to Anderlecht, where I have been, but most of the time I
stayed around the centre, or in places like Schaerbeek, Ixelles,
Wezembeek, Uccle, and Woluwe, which is where the various beaux-fr|?res
and belles-soeurs live or have lived.
Having extended their lead to nine points around New Year's, SG faltered a little bit due to a
number of scoreless draws and the correctly predicted late Brugge surge, but at the end of the
regular season they're still five points ahead (if, as logic dictates, they eventually get the three
points from their match yesterday against dead last Beerschot that had to be abandoned because
of crowd trouble).
Of course, halving the points means that with six games among the Top 4 remaining they're
now less than three points ahead of a Brugge side that have won their last eight league matches.
Yep, Union SG lost both Championship Play-Off games against Brugge, and now the title's all but
gone - they're 3.5 points back with two matches to go.
Ciao,--- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
Werner
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