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  • NIR-ITA, SUI-BUL UEFA WCQ shootout [R]

    From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:10:02 2021
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:34:39 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense

    HT: 0-0

    A half chance for Insigne, who was too timid to hit the ball with his left foot. Together with the Di Lorenzo chance at the start, that's about it for Italy. Insigne deployed as false 9 is not working at all.

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:51:03 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense

    Elsewhere, England is hammering San Marino. Kane's four goals now put him in third place overall in the list of all time England goalscorers.

    More important for playoff seeding ramifications are the results of Scotland-Denmark (SCO up 1-0) and Poland-Hungary (0-1). This would put Scotland into the seeded pot, and likely also Italy.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:54:04 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:34:44 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense
    HT: 0-0

    A half chance for Insigne, who was too timid to hit the ball with his left foot. Together with the Di Lorenzo chance at the start, that's about it for Italy. Insigne deployed as false 9 is not working at all.

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.

    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:54:29 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:51:05 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense
    Elsewhere, England is hammering San Marino. Kane's four goals now put him in third place overall in the list of all time England goalscorers.

    More important for playoff seeding ramifications are the results of Scotland-Denmark (SCO up 1-0) and Poland-Hungary (0-1). This would put Scotland into the seeded pot, and likely also Italy.

    Assuming Italy gets at least a draw...Massive chance for Northern Ireland, but fortunately the Irish dude's shot from 8 yards out is straight at Donnarumma
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:55:02 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense
    HT: 0-0

    A half chance for Insigne, who was too timid to hit the ball with his left foot. Together with the Di Lorenzo chance at the start, that's about it for Italy. Insigne deployed as false 9 is not working at all.

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.

    Apparently Swiss have scored, I am watchin the other game.

    Based onthe first half it looks only a matter of time before Italy score. Having said that, The POM Irish did start the 2nd half well.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:56:06 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Swiss can start booking the tickets. Italy is not scoring today
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 12:57:17 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:34:44 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense
    HT: 0-0

    A half chance for Insigne, who was too timid to hit the ball with his left foot. Together with the Di Lorenzo chance at the start, that's about it for Italy. Insigne deployed as false 9 is not working at all.

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    He looked good vs Italy, very fast and good with the ball making descisions.


    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:04:00 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:56:09 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Swiss can start booking the tickets. Italy is not scoring today

    2-0 Switzerland, Vargas.

    A goal in Belfast would still send Italy through, but the margins tighten.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:08:41 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:04:01 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:56:09 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Swiss can start booking the tickets. Italy is not scoring today
    2-0 Switzerland, Vargas.

    A goal in Belfast would still send Italy through, but the margins tighten.

    Ciao,
    Werner

    If I undersand Italian correctly Swiss are up 3-0?
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:09:12 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:04:01 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:56:09 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Swiss can start booking the tickets. Italy is not scoring today
    2-0 Switzerland, Vargas.
    3-0, Gavranovi-c. Bulgaria falling apart.
    A goal in Belfast would still send Italy through, but the margins tighten.
    No longer true.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:10:04 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:09:13 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:04:01 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:56:09 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Swiss can start booking the tickets. Italy is not scoring today
    2-0 Switzerland, Vargas.
    3-0, Gavranovi-c. Bulgaria falling apart.
    Spoke too soon. VAR'ed.
    A goal in Belfast would still send Italy through, but the margins tighten.

    No longer true.
    Still true.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:17:00 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:09:13 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:04:01 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:56:09 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:54:05 PM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:

    0-0 in SUI-BUL at HT. This is not going to end well.
    Noah Okafor with his first goal for the NT heads Switzerland in front, and as it stands sends them to Qatar.

    Swiss can start booking the tickets. Italy is not scoring today
    2-0 Switzerland, Vargas.
    3-0, Gavranovi-c. Bulgaria falling apart.

    Spoke too soon. VAR'ed.
    But now it's there. Itten makes it three.
    A goal in Belfast would still send Italy through, but the margins tighten.

    No longer true.
    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even the one.
    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Blueshirt@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 21:19:08 2021
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.

    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for anothe hour I don't see Italy scoring.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:23:55 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for anothe hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Blueshirt@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 21:27:41 2021
    On 15/11/2021 21:23, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for another hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first

    Northern Ireland have been very good... they've made Italy look
    ordinary. <shrugs>
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Binder Dundat@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:36:40 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:27:44 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 15/11/2021 21:23, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for another hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first
    Northern Ireland have been very good... they've made Italy look
    ordinary. <shrugs>
    They should have scored in the 90th min when Donarumma did...not sure who he did, kinda did nothing, when he realized he was outside the box.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 14:38:36 2021
    On 2021-11-15 13:51, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    About 20 minutes in, still 0-0 in both matches. So far, Italy has been able to create one chance, but Di Lorenzo tried a difficult shot from a difficult angle rather than dragging it back to Berardi.

    It feels like this is not going to go to GD after all, but on whether Italy will be able to get a single goal past the solid Norther Irish defense

    Elsewhere, England is hammering San Marino. Kane's four goals now put him in third place overall in the list of all time England goalscorers.

    More important for playoff seeding ramifications are the results of Scotland-Denmark (SCO up 1-0)

    Scotland doing Denmark a huge favour by removing the kiss of death (a
    perfect qualifying campaign) from them. Danes complicit in this as that
    does not look like a first choice attack at all - though there may be
    injuries I know nothing about.
    According to ESPNFC, Scotland have committed only 5 fouls, and have no
    yellow cards. Something must be seriously wrong.

    and Poland-Hungary (0-1). This would put Scotland into the seeded pot,
    and likely also Italy.

    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:42:47 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:27:44 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 15/11/2021 21:23, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for another hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first
    Northern Ireland have been very good... they've made Italy look
    ordinary. <shrugs>

    Maybe Italy *are* ordinary? The magic of the Summer of 2021 has worn off, and this is what we are.
    Barely 5 or 6 starters for CL-caliber teams, very little offensive talent to speak of. It would always have been difficult to crack a tough nut like NIR, Mancini's poor choices didn't help.

    If I'm reading the ranking of second-placed teams correctly, we barely squeeze into the pool of seeded teams in the playoff.

    Seeded: POR, SCO, RUS, ITA, SWE
    Uncertain: POL or WAL
    Unseeded: North Macedonia, Turkey, Finland, Austria and Czech Republic
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Futbolmetrix@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:44:39 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:42:48 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:27:44 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 15/11/2021 21:23, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for another hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first
    Northern Ireland have been very good... they've made Italy look
    ordinary. <shrugs>
    Maybe Italy *are* ordinary? The magic of the Summer of 2021 has worn off, and this is what we are.
    Barely 5 or 6 starters for CL-caliber teams, very little offensive talent to speak of. It would always have been difficult to crack a tough nut like NIR, Mancini's poor choices didn't help.

    If I'm reading the ranking of second-placed teams correctly, we barely squeeze into the pool of seeded teams in the playoff.

    Seeded: POR, SCO, RUS, ITA, SWE

    That last minute goal-line clearance by Bonucci turned out to be crucial.
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From Werner Pichler@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 13:55:20 2021
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:44:40 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:42:48 PM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:27:44 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 15/11/2021 21:23, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler >>> wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for another hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first
    Northern Ireland have been very good... they've made Italy look ordinary. <shrugs>
    Maybe Italy *are* ordinary? The magic of the Summer of 2021 has worn off, and this is what we are.
    Barely 5 or 6 starters for CL-caliber teams, very little offensive talent to speak of. It would always have been difficult to crack a tough nut like NIR, Mancini's poor choices didn't help.

    If I'm reading the ranking of second-placed teams correctly, we barely squeeze into the pool of seeded teams in the playoff.

    Seeded: POR, SCO, RUS, ITA, SWE

    Sweden is very likely but not yet certain.

    That last minute goal-line clearance by Bonucci turned out to be crucial.

    Nah, you'd still have been above Sweden.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32
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  • From MH@24:150/2 to rec.sport.soccer on Mon Nov 15 14:56:19 2021
    On 2021-11-15 14:42, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:27:44 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    On 15/11/2021 21:23, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 4:19:10 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
    Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:10:05 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler
    wrote:

    I have to agree with Daniele, Italy don't look like getting even
    the one.
    I'm watching this game; Italy need two goals now but even if this
    game goes on for another hour I don't see Italy scoring.

    The longer the game goes, the more I think the POMs will score first
    Northern Ireland have been very good... they've made Italy look
    ordinary. <shrugs>

    Maybe Italy *are* ordinary? The magic of the Summer of 2021 has worn off, and this is what we are.
    Barely 5 or 6 starters for CL-caliber teams, very little offensive talent to speak of. It would always have been difficult to crack a tough nut like NIR, Mancini's poor choices didn't help.

    If I'm reading the ranking of second-placed teams correctly, we barely squeeze into the pool of seeded teams in the playoff.

    Seeded: POR, SCO, RUS, ITA, SWE
    Uncertain: POL or WAL
    Unseeded: North Macedonia, Turkey, Finland, Austria and Czech Republic

    If the Czechs win by a few goals (quite possible at home to Estonia),
    and Wales lose, the Czechs could be seeded ahead of Poland. Turkey can
    also bypass Poland with an away win in Montenegro. They could also win
    the group if Norway beat the NL (who can yet crash out completely,
    though that seems highly unlikely). So still plenty of uncertainty.



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