Or is business as usual just not news worthy?

May Ole remain at the wheel for many years to come.
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On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:50:18 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Or is business as usual just not news worthy?

Liverpool have been consistently thrashing weak teams this season, hence the latter.

May Ole remain at the wheel for many years to come.

He's dangling by a thread.
Despite his immense limitations as a coach, I think the poisoned chalice called Ronaldo was forced upon him. Ronaldo in his latter years has basically become a top goalscorer who actually weakens his teams. Same happened at Juventus. Another cling-to-the-past boneheaded move by United's management. Long may it continue.
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Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

May Ole remain at the wheel for many years to come.

Amen Brother.

Ole is at the wheel and Man Utd are going in Reverse...
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On 2021-10-24 13:56, Al Kamista wrote:

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:50:18 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Or is business as usual just not news worthy?

Liverpool have been consistently thrashing weak teams this season, hence the latter.

May Ole remain at the wheel for many years to come.

He's dangling by a thread.

Seems likely. Poor guy has had to put up with so much flack ever since
they gave him the job permanently - which was pretty much a premature decision. I thought he was going to be gone after losing to Atalanta,
but the team dug in and saved his bacon - to the benefit of Liverpool, perhaps.
But has he really done worse than Moyes, Van Gaal, or Mourinho, all of
whom came to the job more experienced and more built up than he did ?

Whatever his merits as a coach, I think a lot of the problems are in the playing personnel, and in the upper management. They have spent a lot of
money without much payoff.

Despite his immense limitations as a coach, I think the poisoned chalice called Ronaldo was forced upon him. Ronaldo in his latter years has basically become a top goalscorer who actually weakens his teams.

I tend to agree. Pogba is another problem - capable of feats of
brilliance for sure, but not always motivated, and a bit of a bonehead.
Seems to care more about his hairdo and colour than the team (that
might be harsh). I have compared him to Balotelli in the past, though
he is certainly saner and less of a nutcase - but there is the same inconsistency and impression of arrogance and sulkiness.

As for Ronaldo, it also seems that he and Bruno Fernandes have trouble
playing in the same team. This was apparent for Portugal in the summer
and also this season. Plus Ronaldo in the team means less time on the
pitch for Rashford, Greenwood, and Martial, all still capable of
improvement, and Cavani, who is still a very effective player.

Same happened at Juventus. Another cling-to-the-past boneheaded move
by United's management. Long may it continue.

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Il giorno Sun 24 Oct 2021 09:56:23p, *Al Kamista* ha inviato su rec.sport.soccer il messaggio news:beccef1d-f627-44ed-b540- a5ca1a125ca5n@googlegroups.com. Vediamo cosa ha scritto:

the poisoned chalice

The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle. The chalice
from the palace has the brew that is true.

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On 2021-10-24, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

On 2021-10-24 13:56, Al Kamista wrote:

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:50:18 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

May Ole remain at the wheel for many years to come.

He's dangling by a thread.

But has he really done worse than Moyes, Van Gaal, or Mourinho, all of
whom came to the job more experienced and more built up than he did ?

All of those got fired. And pretty quickly, too. Ole has been at the
wheel longer than Moyes and Van Gaal put together.

Whatever his merits as a coach, I think a lot of the problems are in the playing personnel, and in the upper management. They have spent a lot of money without much payoff.

Some would say that is (also) on the coach. Ole has had two full
seasons, and 3 preseasons, to put his mark on the team. Many expensive
players, with big names, have been brought in. What is there to show
for it?

Leaving aside the results, has Ole created an identity for the team?
Has he improved individual players? Is there any kind of progress?
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On 20/11/2021 17:13, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2021-10-24, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

But has he really done worse than Moyes, Van Gaal, or Mourinho, all of
whom came to the job more experienced and more built up than he did ?

All of those got fired. And pretty quickly, too. Ole has been at the
wheel longer than Moyes and Van Gaal put together.

That's the puzzling thing, the Man Utd board are showing Ole a loyalty
that some better managers before him didn't get...for me, a loyalty Ole doesn't deserve based on recent results.
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On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 12:27:26 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:

On 20/11/2021 17:13, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2021-10-24, MH <MHno...@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

But has he really done worse than Moyes, Van Gaal, or Mourinho, all of
whom came to the job more experienced and more built up than he did ?

All of those got fired. And pretty quickly, too. Ole has been at the
wheel longer than Moyes and Van Gaal put together.

That's the puzzling thing, the Man Utd board are showing Ole a loyalty
that some better managers before him didn't get...for me, a loyalty Ole doesn't deserve based on recent results.

Ole was the perfect manager for them. A non-confrontational yes-man, loved by the fans, and able to get them into the top 4 regularly to keep the money machine humming smoothly. Trophies would have been a bonus, but not a necessity. That is of course until now, where a top 4 finish is under serious threat.
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