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  • Reasonable explanation of Hamilton penalties.

    From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Sep 29 16:20:17 2020
    .. and why the FIA back-pedaled on the penalty points.

    <https://youtu.be/WoWZdRjSnpM>

    (Another video from 'The Race'.) IMO Masi is doing a rubbish job - when a lot of the top drivers
    say a penalty (given to a rival) is too harsh then something's wrong. Or maybe I've been spoiled by
    the excellent job that Charlie did for so long?
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  • From Alan Baker@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Sep 28 21:09:41 2020
    On 2020-09-28 8:20 p.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    .. and why the FIA back-pedaled on the penalty points.

    <https://youtu.be/WoWZdRjSnpM>

    (Another video from 'The Race'.) IMO Masi is doing a rubbish job - when
    a lot of the top drivers say a penalty (given to a rival) is too harsh
    then something's wrong. Or maybe I've been spoiled by the excellent job
    that Charlie did for so long?

    Odd as it may seem to you, I think the penalty Hamilton received for
    this WAS too harsh.
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  • From keithr0@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Sep 29 16:16:46 2020
    On 9/29/2020 1:20 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    .. and why the FIA back-pedaled on the penalty points.

    <https://youtu.be/WoWZdRjSnpM>

    (Another video from 'The Race'.) IMO Masi is doing a rubbish job - when
    a lot of the top drivers say a penalty (given to a rival) is too harsh
    then something's wrong. Or maybe I've been spoiled by the excellent job
    that Charlie did for so long?

    The time penalty OK, the points no.

    I liked the way that Ricciardo handled his 5 sec penalty, "OK I'll drive faster".
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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Sep 29 09:40:06 2020
    On 29/09/2020 04:20, ~misfit~ wrote:

    .. and why the FIA back-pedaled on the penalty points.

    <https://youtu.be/WoWZdRjSnpM>

    (Another video from 'The Race'.) IMO Masi is doing a rubbish job - when
    a lot of the top drivers say a penalty (given to a rival) is too harsh
    then something's wrong. Or maybe I've been spoiled by the excellent job
    that Charlie did for so long?

    In case you have lost track of F1 penalty points:

    <https://f1statblog.co.uk/f1-penalty-points/>

    Currently:

    8 HAM
    4 KVY, RAI, ALB
    3 MAG, GIO, RUS, LEC
    2 VER, PER, RIC
    1 OCO

    Most 2014-20:

    24 VET
    23 KVY, VER
    22 MAG
    21 GRO
    17 PER
    14 RAI
    13 HAM, SAI
    12 BOT
    11 OCO, STR
    9 RIC
    7 GIO
    5 ALB, GAS
    4 RUS
    3 LEC
    0 NOR, LAT
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  • From Phil Carmody@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Oct 2 10:20:22 2020
    keithr0 <user@account.invalid> writes:
    On 9/29/2020 1:20 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    .. and why the FIA back-pedaled on the penalty points.

    <https://youtu.be/WoWZdRjSnpM>

    (Another video from 'The Race'.) IMO Masi is doing a rubbish job -
    when a lot of the top drivers say a penalty (given to a rival) is
    too harsh then something's wrong. Or maybe I've been spoiled by the
    excellent job that Charlie did for so long?

    The time penalty OK, the points no.

    I liked the way that Ricciardo handled his 5 sec penalty, "OK I'll
    drive faster".

    Ditto. I also liked how the twittersphere (whose junk gets splorted
    unto the BBC live page, which we have open whilst we watch the race,
    as we watch in foreignish, and sometimes miss some of the details.)
    were commenting on the two different reactions. The size of the
    blinkers you have to be fitted with such that you consider HAM's
    reaction to be perfectly normal and understandable such that every
    racer would react the same way - after RIC's transmission has been
    heard - is frightening. RIC's reaction, and his follow-through, was
    almost enough for me to want RIC for DotD. I'm enjoying HAM's racing,
    but drivers like RIC are just as valuable to the sport, I'm looking
    forward to him being in a better car - he's nearly up there fighting
    for the top already.

    Phil
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