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  • Hamilton Wins in Imola

    From Heron@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 07:42:11 2020
    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.
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  • From dlpleae@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 05:49:25 2020
    On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 1:42:03 PM UTC, Heron wrote:
    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.

    Fair play to Bottas for following team orders and slowing Verstappen down so Hamilton could win.
    44% of of Hamilton's 93 wins were with Bottas as a teammate. When both in the only car that can win a race. Amazing achievement against Bottas in that car.
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  • From Philip@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 13:52:30 2020
    In article <rnmdv7$1qsq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, McKeister@ipanywhere.com says...

    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.

    Bottas (who outqualified him) and Max (who overtook him) both had car
    issues. He was also incredibly lucky with the timing of the safety car.

    A pretty hollow victory.
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  • From Bigbird@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 14:06:42 2020
    Philip wrote:

    A pretty hollow victory.

    Sure, he looked distraught.

    I guess to win you have to learn not to drive over shit. :)

    You butthurts are so funny. You should club together and get a
    subscription to a proctologist.

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    Enjoy!
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  • From Edmund@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 15:08:35 2020
    On 11/1/20 2:52 PM, Philip wrote:
    In article <rnmdv7$1qsq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, McKeister@ipanywhere.com says...

    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.

    Bottas (who outqualified him) and Max (who overtook him) both had car
    issues. He was also incredibly lucky with the timing of the safety car.

    A pretty hollow victory.


    On the other side, a brilliant Merc strategy when the wrong driver was leading.
    I am sure nobody notished :-)

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  • From Martin Harran@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 21:09:08 2020
    On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 13:52:30 -0000, Philip <invalid@nospam.org> wrote:

    In article <rnmdv7$1qsq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, McKeister@ipanywhere.com says...

    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.

    Bottas (who outqualified him) and Max (who overtook him) both had car >issues. He was also incredibly lucky with the timing of the safety car.

    Like the famous golfer [*] who sank a great putt and
    someone in the crowd exclaimed "Lucky shot!" to which the golfer
    replied "Yeah, the funny thing is, the more I practice, the luckier I
    get."

    [*] Often attributed to Gary Player but he himself attributed it to
    Jerry Barber.



    A pretty hollow victory.
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  • From Sir Tim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 22:13:40 2020
    Philip <invalid@nospam.org> wrote:
    In article <rnmdv7$1qsq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, McKeister@ipanywhere.com says...

    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.

    Bottas (who outqualified him) and Max (who overtook him) both had car issues. He was also incredibly lucky with the timing of the safety car.

    A pretty hollow victory.



    Lewis deserves a bit of luck after Sochi, although I feel pretty sure he
    would have won anyway.

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  • From Colin Stone@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 15:37:00 2020
    LH again just bided his time. Even without the VSC and VB damage, he would have won. He was putting in fastest laps on well old medium tyres and had just about got the gap to make a free pitstop. Even if he came out 2nd, with much fresher tyres he would have overtaken VB. He sublimely makes his tyres last longer than any other drive while putting in stonkingly fast laps.
    Next year will be the same.
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  • From larkim@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 1 21:11:12 2020
    On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 23:37:02 UTC, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    LH again just bided his time. Even without the VSC and VB damage, he would have won. He was putting in fastest laps on well old medium tyres and had just about got the gap to make a free pitstop. Even if he came out 2nd, with much fresher tyres he would have overtaken VB. He sublimely makes his tyres last longer than any other drive while putting in stonkingly fast laps.
    Next year will be the same.
    At what point in the race did this get stuck in Bottas' aero? https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1322894826644426753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1322894826644426753%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fformula1%2F54770864
    Agree that LH just raced the way he usually does these days - calmly waiting with well maintained tyres to show his race day pace.
    Definitely had some great luck / fortune with the VSC and SC timings though, but that does even up some bad luck at other races.
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  • From crms...@gmail.com@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 2 01:59:17 2020
    Wow. That is a chunk of something - barge board?? - to get stuck. I wonder where it was under VBs car?? And VB saw it - why didn't he avoid it with his racing driver reactions??
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  • From Brian Lawrence@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 2 10:11:54 2020
    On 02/11/2020 05:11, larkim wrote:

    On Sunday, 1 November 2020 at 23:37:02 UTC, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    LH again just bided his time. Even without the VSC and VB damage, he would have won. He was putting in fastest laps on well old medium tyres and had just about got the gap to make a free pitstop. Even if he came out 2nd, with much fresher tyres he would have overtaken VB. He sublimely makes his tyres last longer than any other drive while putting in stonkingly fast laps.
    Next year will be the same.

    At what point in the race did this get stuck in Bottas' aero?

    https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1322894826644426753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1322894826644426753%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fformula1%2F54770864

    The team told him later that it happened on lap 2 at Turn 7 (Tosa) - VET
    & MAG came together on the opening lap.

    Agree that LH just raced the way he usually does these days - calmly waiting with well maintained tyres to show his race day pace.

    Definitely had some great luck / fortune with the VSC and SC timings though, but that does even up some bad luck at other races.

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  • From RzR@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 2 13:31:05 2020
    On 11/1/2020 4:52 PM, Philip wrote:
    In article <rnmdv7$1qsq$1@gioia.aioe.org>, McKeister@ipanywhere.com says...

    Hamilton wins in Imola, sets fastest lap, continues to comfortably
    lead the championship and extends his all time record of wins.

    Bottas (who outqualified him) and Max (who overtook him) both had car
    issues. He was also incredibly lucky with the timing of the safety car.

    A pretty hollow victory.


    a ha ha ha ha ha :)

    no one overtook him. it is called a start...

    in any case, Ham had it all under control...he must be embarrassed by
    now how easy it is...
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  • From ~misfit~@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Nov 3 00:31:37 2020
    On 2/11/2020 10:59 pm, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    Wow. That is a chunk of something - barge board?? - to get stuck. I wonder where it was under VBs car?? And VB saw it - why didn't he avoid it with his racing driver reactions??

    It was lodged in the turning vanes area of the bargeboard. He said after the race that did see it
    as he rounded the corner and avoided it with the tyres, that running over it with the centre of the
    car was all he could do without going off-track.
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  • From texas gate@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 2 06:45:18 2020
    On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 3:31:08 AM UTC-7, RzR wrote:

    a ha ha ha ha ha :)

    no one overtook him. it is called a start...

    in any case, Ham had it all under control...he must be embarrassed by
    now how easy it is...

    thank you for not pushing your
    homosexual agenda in this post
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  • From Alan Baker@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 2 09:01:41 2020
    On 2020-11-02 3:31 a.m., ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 2/11/2020 10:59 pm, crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    Wow.-a That is a chunk of something - barge board?? - to get stuck.-a I
    wonder where it was under VBs car??-a And VB saw it - why didn't he
    avoid it with his racing driver reactions??

    It was lodged in the turning vanes area of the bargeboard. He said after
    the race that did see it as he rounded the corner and avoided it with
    the tyres, that running over it with the centre of the car was all he
    could do without going off-track.

    One of the things that people don't understand about driving at the
    limit is that you ARE at the limit. And that at certain times, it isn't possible for a driver to change the trajectory of his car very much or sometimes at all.

    With the GP only available to me live on Sunday (4:10am), I haven't seen
    the incident yet, so I can't give any opinion about this particular
    case, but can anyone tell me whether this happened between the beginning
    of the braking zone and the point of maximum cornering (which usually
    occurs just before the car reaches the apex) or during the latter half
    of the corner (between maximum cornering and track out)?

    In the first half of the corner, you're more committed to line you've
    chosen than during the second half, when you still decide how much
    throttle to apply (and thus can vary how much grip you have left over
    for lateral movement).
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  • From Alan Baker@24:150/2 to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 2 09:07:32 2020
    On 2020-11-02 1:59 a.m., crms...@gmail.com wrote:
    Wow. That is a chunk of something - barge board?? - to get stuck. I
    wonder where it was under VBs car?? And VB saw it - why didn't he
    avoid it with his racing driver reactions??


    If you're driving your car at the limit, you don't have much freedom to
    just suddenly change trajectory. You need time and/or space to do that,
    and you don't always have enough of either.
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