• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfall Discussion

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    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1155 AM EDT Tue Apr 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Apr 29 2025 - 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Southern Plains...

    16Z UPDATE: No major change to the reasoning outlined below, but
    there was an overall trend to shift risk areas southward a bit.
    Although hi-res models (even the very recent 12Z runs) are
    struggling to capture ongoing convection in the region, they all do consistently show organized convection this afternoon and evening
    generating fairly strong cold pools, which in turn gradually pushes
    the effective front south into N TX by this evening and overnight.
    This is supported by RAP analysis showing higher DCAPE values
    across portions of N TX, as well as the 12Z FWD sounding which=20
    revealed a layer of fairly dry air just above the boundary layer.=20
    Of the available hi-res models, recent runs of the RRFS seem to=20
    best represent the forward propagating bow echo in S MO and=20
    additional development in SW OK. Therefore, the tweaks to the=20
    positioning of the risk areas leveraged the RRFS a bit more,=20
    although some deference was given to other guidance sources as=20
    well. Even models that aren't handling ongoing convection very well
    still indicate the development of cold pools, and the tendency for
    the axis of active convection to sink south with time. This lends=20
    some confidence to the overall expectations described here. The
    southward progression of the effective front seems to stall
    overnight, which may lead to a rainfall max in N TX, or at least=20
    very close to the Red River.

    PREVIOUS DISCUSSION: A repetitive scheme of successive convective=20
    outputs across portions of West TX through Oklahoma will result in=20 significant flash flooding for a large portion of the above areas.=20
    The combination of several mid-level impulses ejecting northeast=20
    within a large scale diffluent pattern will interact with a quasi-=20 stationary front aligned from the Western Rolling Plains of TX up=20
    towards the Red River Basin mainly west of I-35. Favorable mid-=20
    level ascent will allow for waves of convective initiation=20
    beginning late-morning and afternoon Tuesday with a secondary pulse
    around 00z Wednesday with a final pulse forecast after 06z as the=20
    mean trough finally starts pivoting east out of the Southwestern=20
    CONUS. Instability within the confines of West TX up to the Red=20
    River will allow for rapid development of convective clusters with=20
    some supercellular modes plausible prior to nightfall, eventually=20
    merging into a more multi-cellular scheme with backbuilding favored
    within the confines of the front denoted pretty well within the=20
    theta_E gradient output in each deterministic. All CAMs are well=20
    supportive of the 3-wave convective evolution with heavy rainfall=20
    situated across the Southern High Plains near the eastern Permian=20
    Basin with a general QPF maxima aligned southwest to northeast=20
    across the northern extension of the Rolling Plains in TX, up=20
    through the Red River and into the southern portion of the OKC=20
    Metro. This area has been the benefactor of multiple convective=20
    episodes already, leading to flash flooding within the corridor=20
    extending from Lawton down to the Red River. This area will be the=20
    most primed location for not only widespread flash flooding, but=20
    significant life-threatening flash flood prospects due to the well=20
    above normal soil moisture anomalies likely curbing any potential=20
    for rainfall to soak into the top soil layer.

    Latest 00z HREF probability fields are overwhelmingly indicative of
    the threat with one of the more robust indications occurring
    within the 6-hr FFG exceedance probability marker running between
    70-90% across the area extending from Foard County in TX up to
    western Cleveland County in OK. Neighborhood probabilities of >5"
    total rainfall are running between 50-80% in the same location with
    8" between 20-30% across Southwest OK between Lawton to the Red
    River. Neighborhood probs for >3" are significant across much of OK
    back into North TX with the southwest extension back into the
    southeast corner of the LUB CWA. Considering the NASA SPoRT soil
    moisture percentiles running between 70-99% for the 0-40cm layer
    across the entire area above, the propensity for flooding, even in
    rural zones will be higher than normal. Given expected rates
    between 1-2"/hr during peak storm cycles and the expectation for
    3" of rainfall...the threat will be of the higher magnitude in
    terms of impact prospects. The previous MDT risk inherited was not
    only maintained, but expanded a bit further southwest to align with
    the higher probabilities with the neighborhood >5" potential and
    the elevated HREF EAS >2" probabilities that have been depicted. A
    high-end MDT risk is forecast across the Red River Basin west of
    Wichita Falls up into the southern fringes of the OKC metro,
    including the town of Norman. Lower end probabilities for flash
    flooding will exist across areas of the eastern Permian Basin out
    through the Concho Valley as well as across much of Oklahoma not
    included in the MDT.

    ...Mississippi and Ohio Valleys...

    16Z UPDATE: No major changes were made to the risk areas here.

    PREVIOUS DISCUSSION: Mid-level impulses that eject out of the=20
    Southern Plains will continue to press northeast towards the=20
    Mississippi and Ohio Valleys with a progressive cold front moving=20
    southeast out of the Midwest during the same time frame. Afternoon=20 destabilization coupled with the favorable addition of mid-level=20
    forcing and surface frontogenesis will lead to scattered convective
    pulses across the region with some organized elements focused=20
    within the confines of the front and under the shortwave=20
    propagation. Soils remain moist across much of the region extending
    from MO through the Ohio River Basin with an eastern extension to=20
    the Central Appalachians and Western PA Highlands. PWAT anomalies=20
    on the order of +1 to as high as +2.5 deviations cements a=20
    favorable deep moist environment conducive for heavy rainfall=20
    prospects within any convective scheme. The greatest concentration=20
    of heavy rain will likely be back over Southern and Central MO=20
    towards the 3 river confluence zone near KY/MO/IN/IL. HREF probs=20
    for >1" are very high (70-90+%) across much of the Mississippi and=20
    Ohio Valley areas with >2" probs relatively high (50-70%) in-of the
    Ohio River Basin over Southern IL through much of Eastern KY. The=20 combination of convection over areas that are still in recovery=20
    from previous rainfall episodes and complex terrain will create a=20
    threat for isolated to perhaps scattered flash flood instances over
    a large area during the afternoon and evening hours Tuesday. A=20
    SLGT risk remains firmly in place across much of MO along and south
    of I-70 until the 3 river confluence zone referenced above. A MRGL
    risk encompasses all other areas east through Western PA and even=20
    the southwest corner of NY state.

    Lamers/Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE ARKLATEX, EASTERN OKLAHOMA, AND WESTERN OZARKS...

    The pattern remains very active as we move into Wednesday as the
    mean trough slowly slips eastward with ample mid-level energy
    accompanying, creating an environment favorable for organized
    convective clusters through the entire D2 time frame. Rich Gulf air
    will be pulled poleward ahead of the advancing trough with several
    mid-level perturbations ejecting out of the ahead of the primary
    shortwave trough. This in combination with sufficient buoyancy
    across Central and East TX through the Mississippi Valley will
    maintain a widespread convective zone of impact with strong, heavy
    thunderstorm cores and clusters capable of producing prolific
    rainfall totals.

    Two primary periods of interest have become fairly well documented
    within the recent deterministic cycles. The first is the
    continuation of the convective complex that will develop overnight
    Tuesday into Wednesday morning over the western Red River Basin and
    slowly trudge eastward as it maneuvers in tandem with the primary
    shortwave energy, and across the remaining theta_E gradient running
    parallel to the river. 00z HREF on the back end of its run is
    signaling some very impressive rainfall totals (2-5") within the
    first 12 hr. period in the forecast cycle (12z Wed to 00z Thu)
    across places along the Red River up through Central and Eastern OK
    as the multi-cell cluster advances. Prob fields for >3" within
    that first 12 hrs. are between 50-90% across south-central OK,
    along and east of the I-35 corridor with 25-40% probs for even >5".
    Considering this is only for the first 12 hrs., the probs are
    pretty impressive and really highlight the threat on the initial
    heavy QPF core.

    The second period of interest will occur in the afternoon and
    evening hrs. as diurnally driven convection will flare up over
    Eastern TX within a broad moisture rich environment as NAEFS
    anomalies continue to point to +2 to +3 deviations for PWATs
    (1.5-2") situated over the area. LLJ introduction by early evening
    will only exacerbate the potential with increasing low-level shear
    capable of persisting updrafts and eventual cell clusters that will
    originate from cells moving northeast within the mean flow. Several
    mid-level perturbations will be in the vicinity across Northeast TX
    to truly enhance and maintain convective cores such that it becomes
    a fairly favorable prospect for heavy rainfall extending into the
    Lower Mississippi Valley. Totals between 2-4" within an areal
    expanse are forecast across the ArkLaTex up through Western AR to
    just before the MO Ozarks. Locally higher totals will be possible
    across that entire area given the favorable rates between 1-2.5"/hr
    forecast currently within global deterministic. Pending outflow
    propagation within the setup, heavier totals could advance further
    east towards Central AR, but at this juncture, the primary area of
    focus aligns over East TX up through Eastern OK and Western AR.
    This correlates well with the theta_E ridge extension up through
    the area where convective threats will be highest during peak
    diurnal destabilization and beyond.

    The previous MDT risk was maintained with a westward extension back
    over portions of south-central OK down across the Red River into
    TX. The MDT risk is NOT within the DFW metro, however it does lie
    just north, so will have to monitor trends closely over the next
    24-36 hrs. A broad SLGT risk extends south into East TX but well
    north of the TX Gulf Coast.

    Kleebauer

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY UP THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN
    GREAT LAKES...

    Numerous areas of thunderstorms will develop across the Mississippi
    Valley through the east-central CONUS due to the progression of a
    surface low out of the Southern Plains and attendant cold front
    trailing the primary cyclone. Western Atlantic ridging will allow
    for a continued advection of rich Gulf air into the Eastern U.S.
    with a deep moist environment pretty much solidified from the Great
    Lakes down to the Gulf coast. Area PWATs will run between 1.5-2.5
    deviations above normal for much of the CONUS east of the
    Mississippi, an environment very favorable for convective schemes
    on the eastern flank of the surface low, as well as along and ahead
    of the progressing cold front. Areal QPF within the ensemble means
    are generally between 0.5 and 1" with some locally higher forecast
    across the above area(s). Some of the deterministic output is of
    course higher with some 2-4" maxima littered over the Southeast and
    Ohio Valley where the convective scheme will be most prominent.
    There's little agreement within the suite on exactly where the
    heaviest precip will fall, but there's plenty of coverage where any
    one spot could be the beneficiary of some heavy precip. At this
    lead, would probably lean on the Tennessee Valley into the Southern
    Ohio Valley to have the best potential due to a combo of antecedent
    moist soils, as well as the greatest surface based ascent likely
    within proxy to the advancing cold front. A broad MRGl risk exists
    over parts of the Lower Mississippi up through the Central and
    Eastern Great Lakes with the furthest east expansion over Western
    NY state down to the Central Appalachians.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!7tQ3PjlLi7vcDP-2JEbwn4tmrucmzdQMgvz7SmBuXkGrbgdP3Owj4pvrvdsNCFI= rjm1qkrjCYlLanOITNm-okHMigN4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!7tQ3PjlLi7vcDP-2JEbwn4tmrucmzdQMgvz7SmBuXkGrbgdP3Owj4pvrvdsNCFI= rjm1qkrjCYlLanOITNm-oMKLuUNM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!7tQ3PjlLi7vcDP-2JEbwn4tmrucmzdQMgvz7SmBuXkGrbgdP3Owj4pvrvdsNCFI= rjm1qkrjCYlLanOITNm-oB_mWhUw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue Apr 29 20:22:43 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 PM EDT Tue Apr 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Apr 29 2025 - 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Southern Plains...

    16Z UPDATE: No major change to the reasoning outlined below, but
    there was an overall trend to shift risk areas southward a bit.
    Although hi-res models (even the very recent 12Z runs) are
    struggling to capture ongoing convection in the region, they all do consistently show organized convection this afternoon and evening
    generating fairly strong cold pools, which in turn gradually pushes
    the effective front south into N TX by this evening and overnight.
    This is supported by RAP analysis showing higher DCAPE values
    across portions of N TX, as well as the 12Z FWD sounding which
    revealed a layer of fairly dry air just above the boundary layer.
    Of the available hi-res models, recent runs of the RRFS seem to
    best represent the forward propagating bow echo in S MO and
    additional development in SW OK. Therefore, the tweaks to the
    positioning of the risk areas leveraged the RRFS a bit more,
    although some deference was given to other guidance sources as
    well. Even models that aren't handling ongoing convection very well
    still indicate the development of cold pools, and the tendency for
    the axis of active convection to sink south with time. This lends
    some confidence to the overall expectations described here. The
    southward progression of the effective front seems to stall
    overnight, which may lead to a rainfall max in N TX, or at least
    very close to the Red River.

    PREVIOUS DISCUSSION: A repetitive scheme of successive convective
    outputs across portions of West TX through Oklahoma will result in
    significant flash flooding for a large portion of the above areas.
    The combination of several mid-level impulses ejecting northeast
    within a large scale diffluent pattern will interact with a quasi-
    stationary front aligned from the Western Rolling Plains of TX up
    towards the Red River Basin mainly west of I-35. Favorable mid-
    level ascent will allow for waves of convective initiation
    beginning late-morning and afternoon Tuesday with a secondary pulse
    around 00z Wednesday with a final pulse forecast after 06z as the
    mean trough finally starts pivoting east out of the Southwestern
    CONUS. Instability within the confines of West TX up to the Red
    River will allow for rapid development of convective clusters with
    some supercellular modes plausible prior to nightfall, eventually
    merging into a more multi-cellular scheme with backbuilding favored
    within the confines of the front denoted pretty well within the
    theta_E gradient output in each deterministic. All CAMs are well
    supportive of the 3-wave convective evolution with heavy rainfall
    situated across the Southern High Plains near the eastern Permian
    Basin with a general QPF maxima aligned southwest to northeast
    across the northern extension of the Rolling Plains in TX, up
    through the Red River and into the southern portion of the OKC
    Metro. This area has been the benefactor of multiple convective
    episodes already, leading to flash flooding within the corridor
    extending from Lawton down to the Red River. This area will be the
    most primed location for not only widespread flash flooding, but
    significant life-threatening flash flood prospects due to the well
    above normal soil moisture anomalies likely curbing any potential
    for rainfall to soak into the top soil layer.

    Latest 00z HREF probability fields are overwhelmingly indicative of
    the threat with one of the more robust indications occurring
    within the 6-hr FFG exceedance probability marker running between
    70-90% across the area extending from Foard County in TX up to
    western Cleveland County in OK. Neighborhood probabilities of >5"
    total rainfall are running between 50-80% in the same location with
    8" between 20-30% across Southwest OK between Lawton to the Red
    River. Neighborhood probs for >3" are significant across much of OK
    back into North TX with the southwest extension back into the
    southeast corner of the LUB CWA. Considering the NASA SPoRT soil
    moisture percentiles running between 70-99% for the 0-40cm layer
    across the entire area above, the propensity for flooding, even in
    rural zones will be higher than normal. Given expected rates
    between 1-2"/hr during peak storm cycles and the expectation for
    3" of rainfall...the threat will be of the higher magnitude in
    terms of impact prospects. The previous MDT risk inherited was not
    only maintained, but expanded a bit further southwest to align with
    the higher probabilities with the neighborhood >5" potential and
    the elevated HREF EAS >2" probabilities that have been depicted. A
    high-end MDT risk is forecast across the Red River Basin west of
    Wichita Falls up into the southern fringes of the OKC metro,
    including the town of Norman. Lower end probabilities for flash
    flooding will exist across areas of the eastern Permian Basin out
    through the Concho Valley as well as across much of Oklahoma not
    included in the MDT.

    ...Mississippi and Ohio Valleys...

    16Z UPDATE: No major changes were made to the risk areas here.

    PREVIOUS DISCUSSION: Mid-level impulses that eject out of the
    Southern Plains will continue to press northeast towards the
    Mississippi and Ohio Valleys with a progressive cold front moving
    southeast out of the Midwest during the same time frame. Afternoon destabilization coupled with the favorable addition of mid-level
    forcing and surface frontogenesis will lead to scattered convective
    pulses across the region with some organized elements focused
    within the confines of the front and under the shortwave
    propagation. Soils remain moist across much of the region extending
    from MO through the Ohio River Basin with an eastern extension to
    the Central Appalachians and Western PA Highlands. PWAT anomalies
    on the order of +1 to as high as +2.5 deviations cements a
    favorable deep moist environment conducive for heavy rainfall
    prospects within any convective scheme. The greatest concentration
    of heavy rain will likely be back over Southern and Central MO
    towards the 3 river confluence zone near KY/MO/IN/IL. HREF probs
    for >1" are very high (70-90+%) across much of the Mississippi and
    Ohio Valley areas with >2" probs relatively high (50-70%) in-of the
    Ohio River Basin over Southern IL through much of Eastern KY. The
    combination of convection over areas that are still in recovery
    from previous rainfall episodes and complex terrain will create a
    threat for isolated to perhaps scattered flash flood instances over
    a large area during the afternoon and evening hours Tuesday. A
    SLGT risk remains firmly in place across much of MO along and south
    of I-70 until the 3 river confluence zone referenced above. A MRGL
    risk encompasses all other areas east through Western PA and even
    the southwest corner of NY state.

    Lamers/Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA, NORTH TEXAS, AND WESTERN
    ARKANSAS...

    The primary change for this updated ERO for Wednesday was to
    recenter the Moderate Risk further south (approx. 50 mi). This was
    due to a corresponding shift in guidance, especially hi-res
    guidance, but also the UKMET, CMC, and ECMWF AIFS. It also fits
    with the updated expectations for the current Day 1 period, as
    guidance has signaled the potential for relatively strong cold
    pools reinforcing the effective front and gradually pushing it
    further south. This would center it more squarely near the Red
    River (OK-TX border region) or perhaps fully into N TX. There is
    still some uncertainty associated with the exact convective
    evolution over the 12-18 hours immediately prior to the start of
    the Day 2 period, so the Moderate Risk and Slight Risk were kept
    fairly broad to account for different scenarios. Nevertheless,
    there was a clear enough shift in the guidance to warrant an
    adjustment in the overall risk contours.

    A significant flash flooding event could be ongoing at the start of
    the period (~12Z Wednesday) over western North Texas and/or south-
    central and southwest Oklahoma. Late tonight the southward drift of
    the effective front and the associated zone of active convection
    may begin to slow or stall as the low-level jet (LLJ) begins to=20
    ramp up considerably over Texas. Where the nose of the LLJ sets up
    relative to ongoing convection will go a long way to determining
    the primary area of concern for Wednesday. Most hi-res models show
    the convective cluster(s) propagating east through the morning
    toward AR and N LA, with renewed development upstream over N TX by
    the afternoon and another training and backbuilding configuration.

    This same guidance generally supports the idea of a 24-hour
    rainfall maximum in excess of 7 inches somewhere in the new
    Moderate Risk area, but there is lingering uncertainty as to
    precisely where that will occur. Although the probability is
    currently highest in the vicinity of the Red River near where SE OK
    borders N TX, it's conceivable it could occur closer to or inside
    the DFW metro area. The metro area is now fully in the Moderate
    Risk area with this latest update.

    Some significant flash flooding will be possible as much of the
    rain will likely fall in 6-12 hours and the high end amounts
    produced by some of the guidance would approach or exceed a 100
    year ARI for those durations. Neighborhood probabilities of
    100 year ARI exceedance are not particularly high, reflecting both
    the uncertainty of the exact placement of the heaviest amounts, and
    that amounts well in excess of those thresholds are not currently
    supported by guidance. Significant and life-threatening flash=20
    flooding would be most likely in two scenarios:=20

    (1) In western North Texas or south-central Oklahoma at the=20
    beginning of the period, as a continuation from the previous night.
    These areas have been quite wet over the past week or so, so there
    is existing vulnerability to extreme rainfall. (This is more
    likely.)

    (2) In the Dallas-Ft. Worth metro area, as the rainfall in question
    would cause serious issues in a highly urbanized area. (This is
    also possible, but not certain, and highly dependent on the exact
    convective evolution.)

    Further north, a broad Marginal and Slight Risk area was maintained
    for the Mid Mississippi Valley and Central Plains. There is some
    signal for organized convection and localized heavy rainfall,
    including a scattering of low probabilities of FFG exceedance, but
    confidence in any specific scenario is lacking.

    Lamers

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER A BROAD AREA
    FROM THE GREAT LAKES TO MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO WESTERN GULF
    COAST...

    An expansive plume of instability is expected to support scattered
    to numerous areas of thunderstorms during the day 3 period ahead of
    a surface low and trailing cold front. Machine learning
    probabilities from Colorado State support the idea of a broad
    Marginal Risk; this is what was inherited and it was generally
    maintained. The biggest change was to extend the area southwest
    through portions of Louisiana and south and southeast Texas.
    Confidence in specifics is low, and the overall flash flood threat
    should be limited by the fairly progressive nature of the
    convection. Precipitable water values are more anomalous in the
    Great Lakes region (above the 90th percentile; above 1.3 inches),
    but that is also where thunderstorms should be moving the fastest.
    Meanwhile, available moisture will be less anomalous further south,
    in TX and LA, but thunderstorms will be moving slower. Therefore,
    heavy rainfall ingredients will generally be offset across the
    whole region. Hi-res models that extend out beyond 48 hours show
    more significant localized rainfall maxima in TX and LA, which
    makes sense given stronger instability and slower overall storm
    motions. This may be where a targeted upgrade to a Slight Risk is
    eventually needed.

    Lamers


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!634Zb9891iMIpx13G31Ih9Q6SwdAo3JuS6R8-hUgWsJbS_Mxerk-c_1Pqs-SOAH= hdH-pxBTRP-Ct8xew5hpAbZzAmlA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!634Zb9891iMIpx13G31Ih9Q6SwdAo3JuS6R8-hUgWsJbS_Mxerk-c_1Pqs-SOAH= hdH-pxBTRP-Ct8xew5hpApviFtvA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!634Zb9891iMIpx13G31Ih9Q6SwdAo3JuS6R8-hUgWsJbS_Mxerk-c_1Pqs-SOAH= hdH-pxBTRP-Ct8xew5hpAB3dZ2zM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Apr 30 01:00:25 2025
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    900 PM EDT Tue Apr 29 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...


    ...Southern Plains to the Mid Mississippi Valley...
    01Z Update...

    Continued the southern adjustment, especially on the northern edge,
    of the outlook areas extending from western Texas northeastward
    across Oklahoma. Recent runs of the HRRR, as well as the 18Z HREF,
    indicate multiple convective rounds training northeastward across
    the region, producing several inches of rain, with numerous flash=20
    floods likely across portions of the region. The latest guidance=20
    shows the greatest threat extending from Northwest Texas across the
    Wichita Falls area into southwestern and south-central Oklahoma --
    brushing the southern extent of the OKC metro. Deterministic runs=20
    of the HRRR show accumulations of 7+ inches, while the HREF shows=20
    high neighborhood probabilities for accumulations of 5 inches or=20
    more through the overnight across this region. The Slight and=20
    Moderate Risk areas were shifted a bit farther south across the=20
    southern Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma, where limited=20
    instability in the most recent analysis supports guidance=20
    indicating a lesser threat for heavy rainfall rates and flash=20
    flooding.

    Further to the east, pulled the Marginal and the Slight Risk areas
    back west of the Mississippi. Relatively drier and more stable air
    is expected to persist until showers and storms now developing=20
    back to the southwest spread into the region late in the period,=20
    with the general model consensus showing relatively lighter amounts
    and a lesser flooding threat.

    ...Ohio Valley to the Central Appalachians...
    01Z Update...

    In addition to brief heavy downpours across sensitive areas, some=20
    training along the southwest flank of the storms currently moving=20
    across the region may raise the threat for locally heavy rains and=20
    flash flooding. But overall, storms are expected to move
    progressively across the area, limiting the potential for
    widespread heavy rainfall and flash flooding concerns.=20

    Pereira

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA, NORTH TEXAS, AND WESTERN
    ARKANSAS...

    The primary change for this updated ERO for Wednesday was to
    recenter the Moderate Risk further south (approx. 50 mi). This was
    due to a corresponding shift in guidance, especially hi-res
    guidance, but also the UKMET, CMC, and ECMWF AIFS. It also fits
    with the updated expectations for the current Day 1 period, as
    guidance has signaled the potential for relatively strong cold
    pools reinforcing the effective front and gradually pushing it
    further south. This would center it more squarely near the Red
    River (OK-TX border region) or perhaps fully into N TX. There is
    still some uncertainty associated with the exact convective
    evolution over the 12-18 hours immediately prior to the start of
    the Day 2 period, so the Moderate Risk and Slight Risk were kept
    fairly broad to account for different scenarios. Nevertheless,
    there was a clear enough shift in the guidance to warrant an
    adjustment in the overall risk contours.

    A significant flash flooding event could be ongoing at the start of
    the period (~12Z Wednesday) over western North Texas and/or south-
    central and southwest Oklahoma. Late tonight the southward drift of
    the effective front and the associated zone of active convection
    may begin to slow or stall as the low-level jet (LLJ) begins to
    ramp up considerably over Texas. Where the nose of the LLJ sets up
    relative to ongoing convection will go a long way to determining
    the primary area of concern for Wednesday. Most hi-res models show
    the convective cluster(s) propagating east through the morning
    toward AR and N LA, with renewed development upstream over N TX by
    the afternoon and another training and backbuilding configuration.

    This same guidance generally supports the idea of a 24-hour
    rainfall maximum in excess of 7 inches somewhere in the new
    Moderate Risk area, but there is lingering uncertainty as to
    precisely where that will occur. Although the probability is
    currently highest in the vicinity of the Red River near where SE OK
    borders N TX, it's conceivable it could occur closer to or inside
    the DFW metro area. The metro area is now fully in the Moderate
    Risk area with this latest update.

    Some significant flash flooding will be possible as much of the
    rain will likely fall in 6-12 hours and the high end amounts
    produced by some of the guidance would approach or exceed a 100
    year ARI for those durations. Neighborhood probabilities of
    100 year ARI exceedance are not particularly high, reflecting both
    the uncertainty of the exact placement of the heaviest amounts, and
    that amounts well in excess of those thresholds are not currently
    supported by guidance. Significant and life-threatening flash
    flooding would be most likely in two scenarios:

    (1) In western North Texas or south-central Oklahoma at the
    beginning of the period, as a continuation from the previous night.
    These areas have been quite wet over the past week or so, so there
    is existing vulnerability to extreme rainfall. (This is more
    likely.)

    (2) In the Dallas-Ft. Worth metro area, as the rainfall in question
    would cause serious issues in a highly urbanized area. (This is
    also possible, but not certain, and highly dependent on the exact
    convective evolution.)

    Further north, a broad Marginal and Slight Risk area was maintained
    for the Mid Mississippi Valley and Central Plains. There is some
    signal for organized convection and localized heavy rainfall,
    including a scattering of low probabilities of FFG exceedance, but
    confidence in any specific scenario is lacking.

    Lamers

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER A BROAD AREA
    FROM THE GREAT LAKES TO MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO WESTERN GULF
    COAST...

    An expansive plume of instability is expected to support scattered
    to numerous areas of thunderstorms during the day 3 period ahead of
    a surface low and trailing cold front. Machine learning
    probabilities from Colorado State support the idea of a broad
    Marginal Risk; this is what was inherited and it was generally
    maintained. The biggest change was to extend the area southwest
    through portions of Louisiana and south and southeast Texas.
    Confidence in specifics is low, and the overall flash flood threat
    should be limited by the fairly progressive nature of the
    convection. Precipitable water values are more anomalous in the
    Great Lakes region (above the 90th percentile; above 1.3 inches),
    but that is also where thunderstorms should be moving the fastest.
    Meanwhile, available moisture will be less anomalous further south,
    in TX and LA, but thunderstorms will be moving slower. Therefore,
    heavy rainfall ingredients will generally be offset across the
    whole region. Hi-res models that extend out beyond 48 hours show
    more significant localized rainfall maxima in TX and LA, which
    makes sense given stronger instability and slower overall storm
    motions. This may be where a targeted upgrade to a Slight Risk is
    eventually needed.

    Lamers


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!-9whLZQzN1K2RbQb4fPLyt4fk4hbu55oU5N2bNKsgCQP8mLvWERMZ9Vl-8Gv8Tn= G3WleDjuE62VsInKesiH6UDexBMw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!-9whLZQzN1K2RbQb4fPLyt4fk4hbu55oU5N2bNKsgCQP8mLvWERMZ9Vl-8Gv8Tn= G3WleDjuE62VsInKesiH6P7qS7lo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!-9whLZQzN1K2RbQb4fPLyt4fk4hbu55oU5N2bNKsgCQP8mLvWERMZ9Vl-8Gv8Tn= G3WleDjuE62VsInKesiH6jiK5zZw$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 300733
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    333 AM EDT Wed Apr 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA, NORTH TEXAS, AND WESTERN
    ARKANSAS...

    The overall synoptic pattern remains unchanged in terms of the
    general longwave progression as an amplified mid-level trough
    begins to open up overnight and kick eastward with a strong
    vorticity maxima riding the base of the mean trough. Ample mid-
    level ascent within a fairly moisture rich environment thanks to
    coupled LLJ advection and strong 700-500mb moisture feed from the
    above trough will lead to a period of prolonged convective
    maintenance and initiation over the course of Wednesday into early
    Thursday morning. A strong mid-level shortwave ejection is
    currently migrating eastward out of NM with WV and IR satellite
    already showing instances of cooling cloud tops marking the sign of
    the final wave of convective initiation off the Caprock and
    adjacent Permian Basin. This expanse of convective development will
    usher east-northeastward within the mean flow, also anchoring to
    the quasi-stationary boundary positioned back across the Permian
    Basin through the Western Rolling Plains of TX. Heavy thunderstorms=20
    prior have led to a swath of very low FFG's in their wake creating
    an antecedent soil moisture condition incapable of taking on much
    more rainfall before causing flash flooding, some significant in
    nature given the ongoing issues near the Red River.=20

    As the shortwave trough migrates through North TX and the Red River
    Basin, cold pool convergence during nocturnal convective cycles
    will lead to a conglomeration of heavy thunderstorms extending from
    Central OK down through North TX, advancing eastward within the
    confines of the stationary front. By 12z Wednesday, rainfall rates
    between 1-2"/hr at peak intensity will encompass a pretty large
    area with the western extent of the precip footprint likely
    overlapping areas that were hit recently this evening. This area
    will represent the western extent of the inherited MDT risk as
    outlined as 00z CAMs have come into relative agreement on the
    timing of the convective cluster moving through the region in the
    initial stages of the forecast cycle. The primary energy will
    continue to traverse eastward with the afternoon period likely to
    see the shortwave axis bisecting Southeast OK between the 18-00z
    time frame. This is where the next round of convective impacts will transpire.=20

    As of the latest ensemble bias corrected mean and HREF blended mean
    output, the heaviest precip has shaded a bit further south compared
    to run-to-run consistency, a tendency typically seen in these
    setups due to the greater instability located further south, as
    well as cold pool progression tending to move southeastward within
    the theta_E gradient pattern(s). This is no different with a strong
    signal for 2-4" areal averages located over Northeast TX with the
    2" mean now even southeast of the DFW metro. 3-5" is the average
    over the ArkLaTex bisecting the Red River Basin between OK/TX/LA,
    something that has remained steady despite the overall shift
    further south in the heavier convective forecast. This is the most
    likely location for flash flood prospects, certifying the centroid
    of the current MDT well-positioned and left untouched from previous forecast.=20

    With the scope of the heavier precip now aligned a bit further
    south to include the DFW metro and areas along I-20, the MDT was
    pulled a bit further south to encompass the 00z HREF >5" neighborhood
    probs of at least 30% or higher, with the general maxima located
    along I-30 towards Texarkana. This correlates well with the
    forecasted position of favorable PWAT anomalies +2 or better when
    assessing the most recent NAEFS and ECENS outputs. Hourly rates
    between 1-2"/hr will be most common at peak intensity according to
    the HREF hourly prob fields with 1"/hr running between 50-90% at
    any given time between 18-06z in the forecast across Northeast TX
    up into Southeast OK and Western AR. 2"/hr probs are not as
    prolific in the signal, but considering the sheared profile and
    deep boundary layer moisture advection pattern, would not be
    surprised to see some cells percolate >2"/hr given the expected
    environment.

    The DFW metro is one of the areas of focus due to the risk of flash
    flooding being higher with the urbanization factors at hand. There
    are some CAMs hinting at significant totals within the metro
    proper, but some are just missing the population center to the
    north and east during the overall evolution. Considering the
    environmental conditioning and the nature of the heavy precip being
    within a short proxy, regardless of eventual outcome the MDT risk
    was sufficient to cover for the threat. HREF EAS prob fields for at
    least 2" running between 30-50%, west to east across the metroplex
    is a pretty good signal for the threat and that signal only
    improves as you move eastward through the I-20/30 zones.=20

    There is a large SLGT risk that encompasses much of the Lower
    Mississippi Valley and basically the rest of the northeastern
    quadrant of TX up through Central OK. Scattered to bordering
    widespread convection will be forecast from the Ozarks and points
    southwest with some locally enhanced cores likely to spur some
    flash flood potential with low to medium grade probabilities
    suggest. There's some question on the exact location of these more
    isolated heavy cells, however there's some indication a secondary
    maxima could be within south-central TX near the eastern flank of
    the terrain east of I-35, or across MO where diffluent upper flow
    will be positioned well to enhance regional convective coverage
    within a fairly moist environment as the anomalous PWATs funnel
    poleward.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER A BROAD=20
    AREA FROM THE GREAT LAKES TO MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO WESTERN GULF
    COAST...

    Surface cyclogenesis across the Southern Plains will lead to a
    steady low progression to the northeast up through the Mississippi
    Valley into the Great Lakes towards the end of the forecast cycle.
    A cold front will trail the vacating low allowing for some frontal
    convergence to occur across the above areas with the greatest=20
    convective coverage likely to be within the warm sector of the Ohio
    and Tennessee Valley into the southern Great Lakes. PWAT anomalies
    between +2 and +3 deviations will be present for much of the CONUS
    situated east of the Mississippi lending to a fairly rich=20
    environment conducive for moist convective cores from the Gulf=20
    coast up to the Great Lakes region. The reasoning for the heavier=20
    convective threat north is the added sheared profiles within the=20
    bounds of the warm sector creating better mesocyclone maturity and=20
    stronger storms. All this to say....heavy rain prospects for longer
    periods more likely within the zone encompassing the Tennessee and
    Ohio Valleys. Current forecast totals region-wide over the=20
    Southeast up into the Ohio Valley are pretty consistent with an=20
    areal average between 0.5 to 1" with some locally enhanced totals=20
    reaching upwards of 2-2.5" in the hardest hit locations. Given=20
    rainfall rates peaking between 1-1.5"/hr when assessing the=20
    probabilistic output of both the NBM and 00z HREF, there's a cap on
    the higher end potential of any flash flood scenario leaving this=20
    overall threat in the broad MRGL risk coverage, as inherited.=20

    There is another area of interest down across the Rio Grande
    extending from the Big Bend down to about Laredo for tomorrow
    evening as a shortwave perturbation ejects east off of Coahuila=20
    with some convection spawning over the Serranias del Burro. Some of
    the CAMs are pretty significant in the overall convective
    development, but much of the CAMs reach the end of their runs prior
    to the activity making its way towards the Rio Grande Valley. Other deterministic and ensemble bias corrected means tell the story in
    full with some respectable QPF outputs within the above bounds
    leading to potentially some localized flooding within some of the
    urbanized zones between Del Rio down to Laredo. Considering the
    environment to be favorable and this scenario having a long history
    of potential, opted to keep the MRGL risk from previous forecast
    issuance to outline the threat for a quick 1-3" of rainfall with
    locally higher amounts plausible pending cold pool convergence
    evolutions.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF
    CENTRAL TEXAS...

    A cold front progression stemming from a trailing cold front and
    pressing surface high over the Northern Plains will lead to
    significant low-level convergence regime over Central TX by Friday
    afternoon. Return flow around the western flank of a broad surface
    ridge positioned over the Western Atlantic will reach back towards
    the southern half of TX leading to a convergent pattern in
    conjunction with slow-moving cold front moving north to south.
    Models have been steadily increasing precip coverage within the
    confines of the boundary once it makes headway into the Hill
    Country of the Lone Star State by late-Friday morning, carrying
    through the rest of the period as the front encounters higher
    theta_E airmass within the western periphery of that surface ridge.
    PWATs between +1 and +2 deviations will be present once the front
    makes its presence across the region, a sufficient environment for
    deep moist convective development along and ahead of the boundary
    as it slowly migrates south. Ensemble means have upped precip
    output in recent runs with a solid 1-2" areal average now
    encompassing a large portion of the state from the Stockton
    Plateau, east through Hill Country, the I-35 corridor, all the way
    back towards the Piney Woods area of East TX. Favorable environment
    with likely training echoes in proxy to the cold front will
    generate locally enhanced QPF maxima, especially within the bounds
    of the terrain where an added weak upslope component could yield
    greatest results (3+" totals). The convergent pattern can be seen
    as far east as the Southeastern CONUS, but the greatest surface
    frontogenesis signal is situated back over the Southern Plains,
    south of I-20.=20

    A SLGT risk was added across the above area with a broad MRGL
    encompassing the higher risk as scattered convection will still be
    present up towards I-20 extending east through the Lower
    Mississippi Valley up through Northern AL and Eastern TN. Will be
    monitoring the setup closely as the setup will likely be most
    prolific within one of the flashier areas of the country.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!9dnw4QOmP0kxRSxS3tp5a_4PEkYyeWmg9-SchkFStpVdvOvqtjrOVSzD35lWtv0= 4Ih_D8WUu7PRxdrUUoJQOCiIi8j8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!9dnw4QOmP0kxRSxS3tp5a_4PEkYyeWmg9-SchkFStpVdvOvqtjrOVSzD35lWtv0= 4Ih_D8WUu7PRxdrUUoJQOZP0l4uI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!9dnw4QOmP0kxRSxS3tp5a_4PEkYyeWmg9-SchkFStpVdvOvqtjrOVSzD35lWtv0= 4Ih_D8WUu7PRxdrUUoJQOhfmWY_s$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed Apr 30 15:51:21 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 301551
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1151 AM EDT Wed Apr 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA, NORTH TEXAS, AND WESTERN ARKANSAS...

    The threat of significant flash flooding continues today, with the
    focus increasingly shifting to portions of north Texas based on
    observational trends and the latest 12Z hi-res model guidance.

    A bowing convective line continues to advance eastward through
    S OK, with a trailing line of convection extending into N TX on=20
    the southern periphery of strong cold pool and mesohigh situated=20
    over SC OK. Over the past couple hours, the convective line in N=20
    TX has become increasingly oriented NE-SW, or even ENE-WSW; in=20
    other words, more parallel to the mean flow vector. This has=20
    increased the potential for training and backbuilding, especially=20
    into the afternoon hours as the LLJ begins to weaken and low-level=20
    winds start to veer to the southwest. For a more detailed mesoscale
    analysis, please refer to MPD #202 issued at 14Z for this region.

    The Moderate Risk area was maintained in SE OK and W AR, even
    though confidence in flash flooding has decreased somewhat due to
    the fairly steady forward progress of the bowing line, and how thin
    the convective line has become. However, it was maintained out of
    deference to continuity and the potential to reinvigorate the=20
    convection in the next few hours with some clearing occurring ahead
    of the line, which could increase rain rates again.

    Greater concern now exists in N TX. The forward progression of the
    line and associated cold pool in S OK and overall convective
    evolution has led to far more west-east orientation to the
    convective line in N TX than models had originally been
    advertising. This certainly increases flash flood potential and
    over the next few hours this places the Dallas-Ft. Worth metro area
    squarely in the greatest risk. Hourly rainfall could exceed 2
    inches per hour, with unobstructed inflow from a very moist and
    unstable air mass (MLCAPE 1500-2000 j/kg with minimal CINH; PWs=20
    1.6 to 1.8 inches per RAP analysis.) In an urban environment, this
    could lead to significant and life-threatening flash flooding,
    particularly if the rain rates are sustained for a couple hours,
    which is a distinct possibility in this case.=20

    As the afternoon and evening progress, the hi-res models do
    indicate the potential for the southwestern periphery of the
    convective line to continue to slow or stall. While they don't
    necessarily agree on the specifics, many HREF members, as well as
    the RRFS, indicate backbuilding and training convection could
    become more likely in the corridor from Waco to Longview. This
    seems to be well supported by observational trends, and in fact
    many hi-res members are: (1) already not extending the convective=20
    line far enough southwest based on current radar trends, and (2)
    have the convective line oriented far too much in a N-S fashion.
    Therefore, they may be underestimating rainfall potential a bit,
    and also underselling the potential for a significant rainfall and
    flash flood event further to the southwest. Probabilities and
    associated risk categories were increased a bit down the I-35
    corridor between DFW and AUS, and this will be monitored for
    further updates based on observational trends. Rain rates in much
    of C/N TX could reach or exceed 2 inches per hour given the=20
    available instability and moisture.

    The other biggest change for this outlook was to extend the Slight
    Risk a bit further northeast through MO and into W IL based on more
    elevated HREF probabilities of exceeding 1hr and 3hr flash flood
    guidance and a fairly consistent signal in the guidance for a
    corridor of enhanced rainfall associated with an MCV and
    corresponding surface low.

    Lamers


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER A BROAD
    AREA FROM THE GREAT LAKES TO MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO WESTERN GULF
    COAST...

    Surface cyclogenesis across the Southern Plains will lead to a
    steady low progression to the northeast up through the Mississippi
    Valley into the Great Lakes towards the end of the forecast cycle.
    A cold front will trail the vacating low allowing for some frontal
    convergence to occur across the above areas with the greatest
    convective coverage likely to be within the warm sector of the Ohio
    and Tennessee Valley into the southern Great Lakes. PWAT anomalies
    between +2 and +3 deviations will be present for much of the CONUS
    situated east of the Mississippi lending to a fairly rich
    environment conducive for moist convective cores from the Gulf
    coast up to the Great Lakes region. The reasoning for the heavier
    convective threat north is the added sheared profiles within the
    bounds of the warm sector creating better mesocyclone maturity and
    stronger storms. All this to say....heavy rain prospects for longer
    periods more likely within the zone encompassing the Tennessee and
    Ohio Valleys. Current forecast totals region-wide over the
    Southeast up into the Ohio Valley are pretty consistent with an
    areal average between 0.5 to 1" with some locally enhanced totals
    reaching upwards of 2-2.5" in the hardest hit locations. Given
    rainfall rates peaking between 1-1.5"/hr when assessing the
    probabilistic output of both the NBM and 00z HREF, there's a cap on
    the higher end potential of any flash flood scenario leaving this
    overall threat in the broad MRGL risk coverage, as inherited.

    There is another area of interest down across the Rio Grande
    extending from the Big Bend down to about Laredo for tomorrow
    evening as a shortwave perturbation ejects east off of Coahuila
    with some convection spawning over the Serranias del Burro. Some of
    the CAMs are pretty significant in the overall convective
    development, but much of the CAMs reach the end of their runs prior
    to the activity making its way towards the Rio Grande Valley. Other deterministic and ensemble bias corrected means tell the story in
    full with some respectable QPF outputs within the above bounds
    leading to potentially some localized flooding within some of the
    urbanized zones between Del Rio down to Laredo. Considering the
    environment to be favorable and this scenario having a long history
    of potential, opted to keep the MRGL risk from previous forecast
    issuance to outline the threat for a quick 1-3" of rainfall with
    locally higher amounts plausible pending cold pool convergence
    evolutions.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF
    CENTRAL TEXAS...

    A cold front progression stemming from a trailing cold front and
    pressing surface high over the Northern Plains will lead to
    significant low-level convergence regime over Central TX by Friday
    afternoon. Return flow around the western flank of a broad surface
    ridge positioned over the Western Atlantic will reach back towards
    the southern half of TX leading to a convergent pattern in
    conjunction with slow-moving cold front moving north to south.
    Models have been steadily increasing precip coverage within the
    confines of the boundary once it makes headway into the Hill
    Country of the Lone Star State by late-Friday morning, carrying
    through the rest of the period as the front encounters higher
    theta_E airmass within the western periphery of that surface ridge.
    PWATs between +1 and +2 deviations will be present once the front
    makes its presence across the region, a sufficient environment for
    deep moist convective development along and ahead of the boundary
    as it slowly migrates south. Ensemble means have upped precip
    output in recent runs with a solid 1-2" areal average now
    encompassing a large portion of the state from the Stockton
    Plateau, east through Hill Country, the I-35 corridor, all the way
    back towards the Piney Woods area of East TX. Favorable environment
    with likely training echoes in proxy to the cold front will
    generate locally enhanced QPF maxima, especially within the bounds
    of the terrain where an added weak upslope component could yield
    greatest results (3+" totals). The convergent pattern can be seen
    as far east as the Southeastern CONUS, but the greatest surface
    frontogenesis signal is situated back over the Southern Plains,
    south of I-20.

    A SLGT risk was added across the above area with a broad MRGL
    encompassing the higher risk as scattered convection will still be
    present up towards I-20 extending east through the Lower
    Mississippi Valley up through Northern AL and Eastern TN. Will be
    monitoring the setup closely as the setup will likely be most
    prolific within one of the flashier areas of the country.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!8JYv3_3vErz0562OCSAEyf0IRviJoNKVNSAOQ7-SPDNf-KLySIzJD7gIqnh1aUz= ihIjriYSQxTMaCJF4DosR2jry334$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!8JYv3_3vErz0562OCSAEyf0IRviJoNKVNSAOQ7-SPDNf-KLySIzJD7gIqnh1aUz= ihIjriYSQxTMaCJF4DosRbc3geoU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!8JYv3_3vErz0562OCSAEyf0IRviJoNKVNSAOQ7-SPDNf-KLySIzJD7gIqnh1aUz= ihIjriYSQxTMaCJF4DosRPURawxg$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 302017
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    417 PM EDT Wed Apr 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed Apr 30 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA, NORTH TEXAS, AND WESTERN ARKANSAS...

    The threat of significant flash flooding continues today, with the
    focus increasingly shifting to portions of north Texas based on
    observational trends and the latest 12Z hi-res model guidance.

    A bowing convective line continues to advance eastward through
    S OK, with a trailing line of convection extending into N TX on
    the southern periphery of strong cold pool and mesohigh situated
    over SC OK. Over the past couple hours, the convective line in N
    TX has become increasingly oriented NE-SW, or even ENE-WSW; in
    other words, more parallel to the mean flow vector. This has
    increased the potential for training and backbuilding, especially
    into the afternoon hours as the LLJ begins to weaken and low-level
    winds start to veer to the southwest. For a more detailed mesoscale
    analysis, please refer to MPD #202 issued at 14Z for this region.

    The Moderate Risk area was maintained in SE OK and W AR, even
    though confidence in flash flooding has decreased somewhat due to
    the fairly steady forward progress of the bowing line, and how thin
    the convective line has become. However, it was maintained out of
    deference to continuity and the potential to reinvigorate the
    convection in the next few hours with some clearing occurring ahead
    of the line, which could increase rain rates again.

    Greater concern now exists in N TX. The forward progression of the
    line and associated cold pool in S OK and overall convective
    evolution has led to far more west-east orientation to the
    convective line in N TX than models had originally been
    advertising. This certainly increases flash flood potential and
    over the next few hours this places the Dallas-Ft. Worth metro area
    squarely in the greatest risk. Hourly rainfall could exceed 2
    inches per hour, with unobstructed inflow from a very moist and
    unstable air mass (MLCAPE 1500-2000 j/kg with minimal CINH; PWs
    1.6 to 1.8 inches per RAP analysis.) In an urban environment, this
    could lead to significant and life-threatening flash flooding,
    particularly if the rain rates are sustained for a couple hours,
    which is a distinct possibility in this case.

    As the afternoon and evening progress, the hi-res models do
    indicate the potential for the southwestern periphery of the
    convective line to continue to slow or stall. While they don't
    necessarily agree on the specifics, many HREF members, as well as
    the RRFS, indicate backbuilding and training convection could
    become more likely in the corridor from Waco to Longview. This
    seems to be well supported by observational trends, and in fact
    many hi-res members are: (1) already not extending the convective
    line far enough southwest based on current radar trends, and (2)
    have the convective line oriented far too much in a N-S fashion.
    Therefore, they may be underestimating rainfall potential a bit,
    and also underselling the potential for a significant rainfall and
    flash flood event further to the southwest. Probabilities and
    associated risk categories were increased a bit down the I-35
    corridor between DFW and AUS, and this will be monitored for
    further updates based on observational trends. Rain rates in much
    of C/N TX could reach or exceed 2 inches per hour given the
    available instability and moisture.

    The other biggest change for this outlook was to extend the Slight
    Risk a bit further northeast through MO and into W IL based on more
    elevated HREF probabilities of exceeding 1hr and 3hr flash flood
    guidance and a fairly consistent signal in the guidance for a
    corridor of enhanced rainfall associated with an MCV and
    corresponding surface low.

    Lamers


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN SOUTHERN
    OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTH TEXAS, AND FAR WESTERN ARKANSAS...

    The most significant change for this outlook period was to
    introduce a Slight Risk primarily over southern Oklahoma, where
    previously the probabilities were below the Marginal Risk (5
    percent) threshold. This was due to an emerging consensus in model
    guidance that thunderstorms will blossom on Thursday Night ahead of
    a digging shortwave in an area of relatively strong upper level
    divergence. Although the mid levels will be drier than in recent
    days, leading to lower PWs overall, strong instability will be in=20
    place which should support organized convection with more intense=20
    rain rates at times. A key uncertainty at the moment is the overall
    structure of convective clusters and lines, and whether they will=20
    be more progressive or include some training. However, the=20
    potential for heavy rain rates in an area that has received a lot=20
    of rainfall already in recent days does raise the risk of flash
    flooding. Hourly rainfall on the order of 1-2 inches will be
    possible in this environment, and in areas with already wet ground
    conditions this would be more than sufficient to cause flash
    flooding.

    Elsewhere, the broad Marginal Risk that was already in place was
    maintained with few changes. A broad plume of moderate to strong
    instability will favor scattered lines and clusters of
    thunderstorms in advance of a surface low and trailing cold front
    with fairly high instantaneous rain rates. The key uncertainty
    would be the persistence of those rain rates and the degree to
    which any training could occur, but the overall environment with
    PWs around 1.3 to 1.4 inches raises the probability high enough to
    warrant the broad Marginal Risk. The only exception to the
    continuation of the risk area was over much of IL, IN, and MI,
    which should largely be behind the cold front by 18Z and so most of
    the QPF on model guidance would be associated with post-frontal
    showers that would tend to have lower rain rates overall.

    Lamers


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    A flash flood event may be ongoing at the beginning of the period,
    with convection developing on Thursday Night in southern Oklahoma
    and continuing into Friday morning. This may continue beyond 12Z
    Friday (into this Day 3 period) in SE OK and AR in the region of
    strong upper-level divergence. The existing Slight Risk over TX was
    expanded northward to account for this scenario. Whether that round
    of convection wanes due to more extensive cloud cover and limited
    daytime heating, or progresses southeast and becomes reinvigorated
    during the afternoon, the threat of heavy rainfall and flash
    flooding should expand southeast on Friday into the Lower
    Mississippi Valley (S AR, N LA, W MS) and much of C and E TX. This
    would be via progression of the early round of storms, or
    redevelopment in the afternoon and evening hours.=20

    Strong instability will remain over much of the warm sector with=20
    CAPE values potentially in excess of 3000 j/kg in some areas, and=20
    PW values are expected to increase above 1.5 inches as SSE flow=20
    increases off the Gulf. The combination of strong instability and=20
    high PWs will favor very heavy rain rates in organized convection,
    and this is supportive of the broad Slight Risk on the new=20
    outlook. At the moment, model guidance is showing the most=20
    consistent signal for heavy rain from Texas Hill Country in C TX=20
    east- northeast into the Piney Woods region of E TX. Given the=20
    overall environment, it is possible an upgrade to a Moderate Risk=20
    may be needed at some point.

    Lamers


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!6xRxQekbUzFBT0Qg_LxjCsF7ZP3yAmkoM8lbioY-aLmehrj-mYvjVklzNW85PXg= 3fMYSpxyelbZpIe-AyurHgrfoRgw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!6xRxQekbUzFBT0Qg_LxjCsF7ZP3yAmkoM8lbioY-aLmehrj-mYvjVklzNW85PXg= 3fMYSpxyelbZpIe-AyurHrhh3wFU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!6xRxQekbUzFBT0Qg_LxjCsF7ZP3yAmkoM8lbioY-aLmehrj-mYvjVklzNW85PXg= 3fMYSpxyelbZpIe-AyurHnQq4WZ4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Thu May 1 00:57:33 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 010056
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    856 PM EDT Wed Apr 30 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Thu May 01 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHEAST TEXAS AND NORTHWEST LOUISIANA...

    01Z Update...

    Updates to the previous ERO were based upon recent runs of the
    HRRR, the 18Z HREF, and current observation trends.=20=20

    The greatest heavy rain and flash flooding concerns through the
    evening hours focus along the southwest flank of ongoing=20
    convection and a coincident slow-moving boundary from the ArkLaTex=20 southeastward back through the Waco area. Current radar shows=20
    storms training along the boundary, with rainfall rates of 1-2=20
    inches/hour within some of the stronger cells. Cell-training and=20
    heavy rainfall will remain a concern for at least the next few=20
    hours as deep layer flow is aligned with the boundary. The Moderate
    Risk was adjusted to align with the training convection, which=20
    agrees well with the higher HREF neighborhood probabilities for=20
    additional accumulations of 3 inches or more during the=20 evening/overnight.=20

    Farther to the north across Arkansas, the threat for heavy=20
    rainfall and flash flooding is diminishing where the convective=20
    line has become more progressive.=20

    Areas back to the north and west, where the rainfall has ended,=20
    were removed from the outlook.=20

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN SOUTHERN
    OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTH TEXAS, AND FAR WESTERN ARKANSAS...

    The most significant change for this outlook period was to
    introduce a Slight Risk primarily over southern Oklahoma, where
    previously the probabilities were below the Marginal Risk (5
    percent) threshold. This was due to an emerging consensus in model
    guidance that thunderstorms will blossom on Thursday Night ahead of
    a digging shortwave in an area of relatively strong upper level
    divergence. Although the mid levels will be drier than in recent
    days, leading to lower PWs overall, strong instability will be in
    place which should support organized convection with more intense
    rain rates at times. A key uncertainty at the moment is the overall
    structure of convective clusters and lines, and whether they will
    be more progressive or include some training. However, the
    potential for heavy rain rates in an area that has received a lot
    of rainfall already in recent days does raise the risk of flash
    flooding. Hourly rainfall on the order of 1-2 inches will be
    possible in this environment, and in areas with already wet ground
    conditions this would be more than sufficient to cause flash
    flooding.

    Elsewhere, the broad Marginal Risk that was already in place was
    maintained with few changes. A broad plume of moderate to strong
    instability will favor scattered lines and clusters of
    thunderstorms in advance of a surface low and trailing cold front
    with fairly high instantaneous rain rates. The key uncertainty
    would be the persistence of those rain rates and the degree to
    which any training could occur, but the overall environment with
    PWs around 1.3 to 1.4 inches raises the probability high enough to
    warrant the broad Marginal Risk. The only exception to the
    continuation of the risk area was over much of IL, IN, and MI,
    which should largely be behind the cold front by 18Z and so most of
    the QPF on model guidance would be associated with post-frontal
    showers that would tend to have lower rain rates overall.

    Lamers


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    A flash flood event may be ongoing at the beginning of the period,
    with convection developing on Thursday Night in southern Oklahoma
    and continuing into Friday morning. This may continue beyond 12Z
    Friday (into this Day 3 period) in SE OK and AR in the region of
    strong upper-level divergence. The existing Slight Risk over TX was
    expanded northward to account for this scenario. Whether that round
    of convection wanes due to more extensive cloud cover and limited
    daytime heating, or progresses southeast and becomes reinvigorated
    during the afternoon, the threat of heavy rainfall and flash
    flooding should expand southeast on Friday into the Lower
    Mississippi Valley (S AR, N LA, W MS) and much of C and E TX. This
    would be via progression of the early round of storms, or
    redevelopment in the afternoon and evening hours.

    Strong instability will remain over much of the warm sector with
    CAPE values potentially in excess of 3000 j/kg in some areas, and
    PW values are expected to increase above 1.5 inches as SSE flow
    increases off the Gulf. The combination of strong instability and
    high PWs will favor very heavy rain rates in organized convection,
    and this is supportive of the broad Slight Risk on the new
    outlook. At the moment, model guidance is showing the most
    consistent signal for heavy rain from Texas Hill Country in C TX
    east- northeast into the Piney Woods region of E TX. Given the
    overall environment, it is possible an upgrade to a Moderate Risk
    may be needed at some point.

    Lamers


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!7GGFWblYIR9ZVeED1qsQ6kYKtQebZ_rOKbf9URzJpWCAkrV2GcUPVpJxjYZfBf7= g3PhStlk-DOCQlMHU_cs9IV9iHwg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!7GGFWblYIR9ZVeED1qsQ6kYKtQebZ_rOKbf9URzJpWCAkrV2GcUPVpJxjYZfBf7= g3PhStlk-DOCQlMHU_cs91RK5-hQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!7GGFWblYIR9ZVeED1qsQ6kYKtQebZ_rOKbf9URzJpWCAkrV2GcUPVpJxjYZfBf7= g3PhStlk-DOCQlMHU_cs9s9kfUco$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 010756
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    356 AM EDT Thu May 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN SOUTHERN
    OKLAHOMA, FAR NORTH TEXAS, FAR WESTERN ARKANSAS, WESTERN
    PENNSYLVANIA AND THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...Southern Plains...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Southern Rockies will interact with a
    cold front pressing south through the Central and Southern Plains
    by the late-afternoon and evening hours Thursday through Friday
    morning. A relevant theta_E differential will be aligned within=20
    the confines of the boundary providing a suitable thermodynamic=20
    alignment such that area convection anchors and pushes along the=20
    west to east oriented instability gradient across Southern OK.
    Majority of CAMs are in consensus of a heavy rainfall footprint
    along and south of I-40, generally configured to the timing of the
    cold front, shortwave interaction, and LLJ convergence signal. This
    is primarily right around 00z when the convective threat enhances
    with the integration of the nocturnal LLJ, a timing historically
    prevalent for this time of year and this setup is no exception.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are relatively high (50-80%)=20
    within the corridor extending from Southwest OK across the Red=20
    River Basin towards the AR border. >2" is highest just north of the
    river from I-35 on east, a testament to the timing of the
    shortwave arrival and upscale growth of the convective threat as it
    maneuvers to the east-southeast. Rainfall rates between 1-2"/hr are
    most likely when assessing the hourly rate probs from the both the
    NBM and HREF output, a rate assessment that is more than suitable
    considering the blanket low FFG intervals due to the antecedent
    moist soils from the past 36-48 hrs of rainfall. The areal QPF=20
    footprint of >1" aligned within those lower FFG's pretty much
    perfectly, a scenario that lends to a greater credence of a touch
    higher risk category that what is normal the case for this setup.
    The previous SLGT risk was relatively maintained with minor
    adjustments on the edges pertaining to recent hi-res QPF and in
    conjunction with the ML First Guess Fields.=20

    ...Interior Mid Atlantic...

    Shortwave trough currently positioned over the Southern Plains will
    lift northeast through the Mississippi Valley with sights on the
    Great Lakes region by the second half of the D1. Downstream, an
    improved diffluent signature will align over the Ohio Valley and
    points northeast allowing for regional ascent to boost convective
    initiation in-of places within that diffluent core. The most
    notable area for convective development lies within an established
    theta_E tongue riding northward through the Appalachians Front=20
    with poleward expansion into the southeastern Great Lakes. This=20
    allowed for moisture rich air exuding PWAT anomalies between +2 and
    +3 within the corridor extending through much of WV up through=20
    Eastern OH and Western PA to the Lake Erie border. SBCAPE between=20
    1500-2500 J/kg will be a common occurrence during peak diurnal=20 destabilization creating a corridor of enhanced thermodynamic=20
    prospects to coincide with the arrival of the better mid-level=20
    forcing downstream of the approaching trough. Regional shear will=20
    be improving as well, especially within the confines of a shallow=20
    warm front that will be lifting northward through the course of the
    afternoon across the interior Mid Atlantic. Cell initiation will=20
    begin between 18-00z today with greater multi-cell cluster coverage
    likely to occur towards the back end of the above time frame due=20
    to anchoring along the warm front as it approaches. Areas across=20
    Western PA have been hit relatively hard recently with convective=20
    rainfall adding to the areal decoupling of the FFG indices meaning=20
    the prospects for flash flooding have increased with the arrival of
    this next disturbance.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" are between 30-50% across a
    large section of Western PA extending south into the northern High
    Country of WV, rooted in the Appalachians Front, an area notorious
    for flashy rivers and smaller towns located within the valleys.
    There was enough consensus to warrant an upgrade considering the
    antecedent conditions, atmospheric environmental favorability, as
    well as the increased probs denoting a locally heavy rain prospect
    over the region. A SLGT risk has been added to much of Western PA
    down into portions of the Central Appalachians.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    Steady progression of a cold front through the Southern Plains will
    lead to textbook convergent pattern with an addition of a strong=20
    upper diffluence signature within the bounds of the southern jet
    proxy. High areal theta_E averages will denote the significant=20
    instability pattern positioned ahead of the approaching cold front=20
    leading to ample thermodynamic assistance for strong convective=20
    cores and expected heavy rainfall. Recent CAMs have finally come=20
    into view for the primary window of cell initiation with a
    widespread convective pattern likely to extend from the Stockton
    Plateau to points east within the I-10 corridor up through all of
    Hill Country, especially over the I-35 section of south-central TX.
    HREF blended mean QPF is over 2" now within a large area=20
    encompassing the terrain focused across the Central portion of the
    state. This had led to elevated neighborhood probs of >2" for the=20
    12-00z time frame in the forecast running >70% over pretty much all
    of the above region extending into portions of East TX. The East TX
    corridor has become a newer development in terms of anticipated QPF
    magnitude as the the CAMs and in some instances the global
    deterministic are now catching on to the deep moisture advection
    regime poking north out of the Western Gulf ahead of the front
    arrival. Forecast soundings across the area between Houston up to
    the latitude of Austin are now indicating MUCAPE or the order of
    3500-5000 J/kg prior to any front arrival leading to significant
    heavy cores to transpire due to cap breach from diurnal
    destabilization initially, followed by more organized multi-cell
    clusters as we move into the evening as the LLJ re-intensifies and
    the cold front motions into the region.=20

    Soundings also note a period of mean flow and upshear components
    that would lead to potential backbuilding within the confines of
    the front. Very strong ascent between 850-300mb is also noted
    within multiple CAMs outputs, a testament to the favorability for
    the setup to become more organized and providing a vast areal
    expanse of heavy convection once the setup matures. PWATs between
    1.6-1.9" with locally >2" are being forecast along and ahead of the
    front as it moves into Central TX, a forecast that traditionally is
    favored for greater flash flood prospects, especially over the
    favored I-35 corridor between Austin to San Antonio where high
    runoff capabilities are found due to soil type and limestone
    foundations. Local totals between 3-6" are likely over the entire
    stretch of Hill Country through East TX with the eastern most
    extent even shifting into Western LA as the convective pattern
    evolves and grows upscale entering into the adjacent Lower
    Mississippi Valley. Houston metro is now in play for convective
    impacts, especially as thunderstorms to the north provide outflow
    generation that could send cold pools south towards the Gulf coast
    with additional convective development along the edge of any
    approaching cold pool.=20

    The previous SLGT risk was relatively unchanged across Central TX.
    Some expansion to the west was made into the Stockton Plateau where
    initial cell formations will likely occur as the front arrives and
    interacts with a formidable instability axis aligned over the
    plateau itself. The SLGT was expanded southeast to cover the
    Houston metro and points north where there is growing consensus on
    convective impacts over and near the urban center. This is a high-
    end SLGT over much of Central TX, especially Hill Country to the
    I-35 corridor and points east. A risk upgrade is not out of the
    question in subsequent updates given the environmental
    favorability and flashy history of places expected to see the
    greatest thunderstorm coverage/rates.=20=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF
    THE APPALACHIAN FRONT AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN...

    ...Appalachians...

    An anomalous upper low center evolving over the Ohio Valley will
    generate a strong diffluent signature downstream across the
    Appalachians and points east with a significant moisture fetch
    poleward from the Gulf, and eventual Atlantic Basin by the end of=20
    the period. Organized convective activity will brew within the RER
    of a strengthening upper jet core located over Ontario/Quebec as
    the upper pattern becomes closed off to the west after 00z/Sun.
    NAEFS PWAT anomalies between +1 and +2 deviations will offer a
    suitable moisture rich environment conducive for stronger heavy
    convective cores capable of locally enhanced rainfall prospects
    within the confines of the great diffluent axis. As of this time,
    this places the Appalachians Front from Northern GA up through PA=20
    as the primary region of interest, however some elevated=20
    instability notions are present within some of the recent=20
    deterministic output. As of this time, a general 1-2" is forecast=20
    within the above corridor with some heavier cells even possible as=20
    far south as the Central Gulf Coast, but those are more aligned=20
    within the decaying surface front that is progged to breakdown=20
    before exiting the coastal plain. The area of focus will reside=20
    within that broad ascent pattern enhanced by the evolving amplified
    pattern to the east of the Mississippi with the complex terrain=20
    providing a secondary element that would favor isolated flash flood
    prospects. As a result, a broad MRGL risk extends from the=20
    Southern Appalachians up through Northeast PA where the current=20
    ensemble mean QPF is highest while also residing within the lower=20
    FFG indices available in the Eastern CONUS.

    ...Great Basin...

    Omega block pattern initiating over the CONUS will lead to yet
    another amplified upper low generation across the Western CONUS
    through D3. The threat for elevated convection in-of interior NV up
    into Southeast OR have been forecast for several days with the
    deterministic guidance basically "locked in" to the expected
    evolution. Despite rainfall rates rather low grade compared to what
    you normally find for flash flooding, this area has a notorious low
    FFG bias that tends to accentuate the flash flood prospects in this
    area of the CONUS. Recent ensemble means have been hovering between
    0.75-1.25" of total QPF within the corridor extending from Reno to
    points northeast with local maxima hovering up near 2" due to the
    added effect of greater upper forcing thanks to the maturing closed
    ULL reflection. This setup has been steady within the First Guess
    Fields for the threat and really hasn't wavered much in the MRGL
    risk output from the ML. Considering the factors above and a
    pattern more favorable for these convective schemes across the
    Great Basin, the previous MRGL risk inherited was maintained with a
    small expansion northward into Southeast OR to highlight QPF trends
    favoring better totals within those zones.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!5tLfNxQDfhASy9a9otxw4b2kJ6vctypwG6Txq5vOh2EQ-J_DPdmjxslVr3SmtzD= dsR7ZHhAvfVbdF-8krIv8Hr8XXYQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!5tLfNxQDfhASy9a9otxw4b2kJ6vctypwG6Txq5vOh2EQ-J_DPdmjxslVr3SmtzD= dsR7ZHhAvfVbdF-8krIv8EESmbY8$=20
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    FOUS30 KWBC 011551
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1151 AM EDT Thu May 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR SOUTHERN=20
    OKLAHOMA AND FAR WESTERN ARKANSAS AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...16Z Update...

    Only very minor tweaks were needed to the Slight Risk areas across
    the Southern Plains and central Appalachians. For the southern
    Plains, the 12Z HiRes guidance shifted very slightly (10-20 miles)
    north with tonight's expected MCS development across Oklahoma.
    Given the high sensitivity of that entire area between Dallas and
    Oklahoma City for heavy rainfall, the Slight Risk was maintained.
    The 12Z HRRR followed previous runs suggesting there may be
    training showers that get hung up on the southern end of the MCS
    just north of the Red River, but by then the instability should be
    largely used up and therefore rates should come down a bit. Given
    that, the Slight was maintained with no upgrades...though it
    wouldn't take much of an uptick in future guidance to possibly need
    a targeted Moderate, depending on if the guidance can come into
    better agreement on where the axis of heaviest rain will set up.

    Over to the Central Appalachians, the guidance unfortunately
    remains in poorer agreement than in the southern Plains. Expect
    more widely scattered convection to impact the area starting this
    afternoon, developing into one or more lines of storms by the
    evening. Each line will be very progressive/fast-moving, so
    individual storms will not have much of a flooding impact. However,
    with multiple rounds of showers and storms expected in an area
    recently hard hit with heavy rain, the multiple rounds of storms
    may collectively add up to widely scattered instances of flash
    flooding into this evening. The inherited Slight was trimmed in
    MD/WV out of areas east of the Allegheny Front, which are
    significantly drier and with higher FFGs than areas along and west.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Southern Rockies will interact with a
    cold front pressing south through the Central and Southern Plains
    by the late-afternoon and evening hours Thursday through Friday
    morning. A relevant theta_E differential will be aligned within
    the confines of the boundary providing a suitable thermodynamic
    alignment such that area convection anchors and pushes along the
    west to east oriented instability gradient across Southern OK.
    Majority of CAMs are in consensus of a heavy rainfall footprint
    along and south of I-40, generally configured to the timing of the
    cold front, shortwave interaction, and LLJ convergence signal. This
    is primarily right around 00z when the convective threat enhances
    with the integration of the nocturnal LLJ, a timing historically
    prevalent for this time of year and this setup is no exception.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are relatively high (50-80%)
    within the corridor extending from Southwest OK across the Red
    River Basin towards the AR border. >2" is highest just north of the
    river from I-35 on east, a testament to the timing of the
    shortwave arrival and upscale growth of the convective threat as it
    maneuvers to the east-southeast. Rainfall rates between 1-2"/hr are
    most likely when assessing the hourly rate probs from the both the
    NBM and HREF output, a rate assessment that is more than suitable
    considering the blanket low FFG intervals due to the antecedent
    moist soils from the past 36-48 hrs of rainfall. The areal QPF
    footprint of >1" aligned within those lower FFG's pretty much
    perfectly, a scenario that lends to a greater credence of a touch
    higher risk category that what is normal the case for this setup.
    The previous SLGT risk was relatively maintained with minor
    adjustments on the edges pertaining to recent hi-res QPF and in
    conjunction with the ML First Guess Fields.

    ...Interior Mid Atlantic...

    Shortwave trough currently positioned over the Southern Plains will
    lift northeast through the Mississippi Valley with sights on the
    Great Lakes region by the second half of the D1. Downstream, an
    improved diffluent signature will align over the Ohio Valley and
    points northeast allowing for regional ascent to boost convective
    initiation in-of places within that diffluent core. The most
    notable area for convective development lies within an established
    theta_E tongue riding northward through the Appalachians Front
    with poleward expansion into the southeastern Great Lakes. This
    allowed for moisture rich air exuding PWAT anomalies between +2 and
    +3 within the corridor extending through much of WV up through
    Eastern OH and Western PA to the Lake Erie border. SBCAPE between
    1500-2500 J/kg will be a common occurrence during peak diurnal
    destabilization creating a corridor of enhanced thermodynamic
    prospects to coincide with the arrival of the better mid-level
    forcing downstream of the approaching trough. Regional shear will
    be improving as well, especially within the confines of a shallow
    warm front that will be lifting northward through the course of the
    afternoon across the interior Mid Atlantic. Cell initiation will
    begin between 18-00z today with greater multi-cell cluster coverage
    likely to occur towards the back end of the above time frame due
    to anchoring along the warm front as it approaches. Areas across
    Western PA have been hit relatively hard recently with convective
    rainfall adding to the areal decoupling of the FFG indices meaning
    the prospects for flash flooding have increased with the arrival of
    this next disturbance.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" are between 30-50% across a
    large section of Western PA extending south into the northern High
    Country of WV, rooted in the Appalachians Front, an area notorious
    for flashy rivers and smaller towns located within the valleys.
    There was enough consensus to warrant an upgrade considering the
    antecedent conditions, atmospheric environmental favorability, as
    well as the increased probs denoting a locally heavy rain prospect
    over the region. A SLGT risk has been added to much of Western PA
    down into portions of the Central Appalachians.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    Steady progression of a cold front through the Southern Plains will
    lead to textbook convergent pattern with an addition of a strong
    upper diffluence signature within the bounds of the southern jet
    proxy. High areal theta_E averages will denote the significant
    instability pattern positioned ahead of the approaching cold front
    leading to ample thermodynamic assistance for strong convective
    cores and expected heavy rainfall. Recent CAMs have finally come
    into view for the primary window of cell initiation with a
    widespread convective pattern likely to extend from the Stockton
    Plateau to points east within the I-10 corridor up through all of
    Hill Country, especially over the I-35 section of south-central TX.
    HREF blended mean QPF is over 2" now within a large area
    encompassing the terrain focused across the Central portion of the
    state. This had led to elevated neighborhood probs of >2" for the
    12-00z time frame in the forecast running >70% over pretty much all
    of the above region extending into portions of East TX. The East TX
    corridor has become a newer development in terms of anticipated QPF
    magnitude as the the CAMs and in some instances the global
    deterministic are now catching on to the deep moisture advection
    regime poking north out of the Western Gulf ahead of the front
    arrival. Forecast soundings across the area between Houston up to
    the latitude of Austin are now indicating MUCAPE or the order of
    3500-5000 J/kg prior to any front arrival leading to significant
    heavy cores to transpire due to cap breach from diurnal
    destabilization initially, followed by more organized multi-cell
    clusters as we move into the evening as the LLJ re-intensifies and
    the cold front motions into the region.

    Soundings also note a period of mean flow and upshear components
    that would lead to potential backbuilding within the confines of
    the front. Very strong ascent between 850-300mb is also noted
    within multiple CAMs outputs, a testament to the favorability for
    the setup to become more organized and providing a vast areal
    expanse of heavy convection once the setup matures. PWATs between
    1.6-1.9" with locally >2" are being forecast along and ahead of the
    front as it moves into Central TX, a forecast that traditionally is
    favored for greater flash flood prospects, especially over the
    favored I-35 corridor between Austin to San Antonio where high
    runoff capabilities are found due to soil type and limestone
    foundations. Local totals between 3-6" are likely over the entire
    stretch of Hill Country through East TX with the eastern most
    extent even shifting into Western LA as the convective pattern
    evolves and grows upscale entering into the adjacent Lower
    Mississippi Valley. Houston metro is now in play for convective
    impacts, especially as thunderstorms to the north provide outflow
    generation that could send cold pools south towards the Gulf coast
    with additional convective development along the edge of any
    approaching cold pool.

    The previous SLGT risk was relatively unchanged across Central TX.
    Some expansion to the west was made into the Stockton Plateau where
    initial cell formations will likely occur as the front arrives and
    interacts with a formidable instability axis aligned over the
    plateau itself. The SLGT was expanded southeast to cover the
    Houston metro and points north where there is growing consensus on
    convective impacts over and near the urban center. This is a high-
    end SLGT over much of Central TX, especially Hill Country to the
    I-35 corridor and points east. A risk upgrade is not out of the
    question in subsequent updates given the environmental
    favorability and flashy history of places expected to see the
    greatest thunderstorm coverage/rates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS MUCH OF
    THE APPALACHIAN FRONT AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN...

    ...Appalachians...

    An anomalous upper low center evolving over the Ohio Valley will
    generate a strong diffluent signature downstream across the
    Appalachians and points east with a significant moisture fetch
    poleward from the Gulf, and eventual Atlantic Basin by the end of
    the period. Organized convective activity will brew within the RER
    of a strengthening upper jet core located over Ontario/Quebec as
    the upper pattern becomes closed off to the west after 00z/Sun.
    NAEFS PWAT anomalies between +1 and +2 deviations will offer a
    suitable moisture rich environment conducive for stronger heavy
    convective cores capable of locally enhanced rainfall prospects
    within the confines of the great diffluent axis. As of this time,
    this places the Appalachians Front from Northern GA up through PA
    as the primary region of interest, however some elevated
    instability notions are present within some of the recent
    deterministic output. As of this time, a general 1-2" is forecast
    within the above corridor with some heavier cells even possible as
    far south as the Central Gulf Coast, but those are more aligned
    within the decaying surface front that is progged to breakdown
    before exiting the coastal plain. The area of focus will reside
    within that broad ascent pattern enhanced by the evolving amplified
    pattern to the east of the Mississippi with the complex terrain
    providing a secondary element that would favor isolated flash flood
    prospects. As a result, a broad MRGL risk extends from the
    Southern Appalachians up through Northeast PA where the current
    ensemble mean QPF is highest while also residing within the lower
    FFG indices available in the Eastern CONUS.

    ...Great Basin...

    Omega block pattern initiating over the CONUS will lead to yet
    another amplified upper low generation across the Western CONUS
    through D3. The threat for elevated convection in-of interior NV up
    into Southeast OR have been forecast for several days with the
    deterministic guidance basically "locked in" to the expected
    evolution. Despite rainfall rates rather low grade compared to what
    you normally find for flash flooding, this area has a notorious low
    FFG bias that tends to accentuate the flash flood prospects in this
    area of the CONUS. Recent ensemble means have been hovering between
    0.75-1.25" of total QPF within the corridor extending from Reno to
    points northeast with local maxima hovering up near 2" due to the
    added effect of greater upper forcing thanks to the maturing closed
    ULL reflection. This setup has been steady within the First Guess
    Fields for the threat and really hasn't wavered much in the MRGL
    risk output from the ML. Considering the factors above and a
    pattern more favorable for these convective schemes across the
    Great Basin, the previous MRGL risk inherited was maintained with a
    small expansion northward into Southeast OR to highlight QPF trends
    favoring better totals within those zones.

    Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/94epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!43nye14i9bdePWxTDqZD-ySGdhEqdHxYGNyW8Y6xlsI9crcMbF3lJxAL1XPyNHk= PUCVLVH8lJb_JohZUcwuTfRKLPj0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/98epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!43nye14i9bdePWxTDqZD-ySGdhEqdHxYGNyW8Y6xlsI9crcMbF3lJxAL1XPyNHk= PUCVLVH8lJb_JohZUcwuT9EqYsD4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!43nye14i9bdePWxTDqZD-ySGdhEqdHxYGNyW8Y6xlsI9crcMbF3lJxAL1XPyNHk= PUCVLVH8lJb_JohZUcwuTvk0gzAQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 011945
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    345 PM EDT Thu May 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu May 01 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR SOUTHERN
    OKLAHOMA AND FAR WESTERN ARKANSAS AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...16Z Update...

    Only very minor tweaks were needed to the Slight Risk areas across
    the Southern Plains and central Appalachians. For the southern
    Plains, the 12Z HiRes guidance shifted very slightly (10-20 miles)
    north with tonight's expected MCS development across Oklahoma.
    Given the high sensitivity of that entire area between Dallas and
    Oklahoma City for heavy rainfall, the Slight Risk was maintained.
    The 12Z HRRR followed previous runs suggesting there may be
    training showers that get hung up on the southern end of the MCS
    just north of the Red River, but by then the instability should be
    largely used up and therefore rates should come down a bit. Given
    that, the Slight was maintained with no upgrades...though it
    wouldn't take much of an uptick in future guidance to possibly need
    a targeted Moderate, depending on if the guidance can come into
    better agreement on where the axis of heaviest rain will set up.

    Over to the Central Appalachians, the guidance unfortunately
    remains in poorer agreement than in the southern Plains. Expect
    more widely scattered convection to impact the area starting this
    afternoon, developing into one or more lines of storms by the
    evening. Each line will be very progressive/fast-moving, so
    individual storms will not have much of a flooding impact. However,
    with multiple rounds of showers and storms expected in an area
    recently hard hit with heavy rain, the multiple rounds of storms
    may collectively add up to widely scattered instances of flash
    flooding into this evening. The inherited Slight was trimmed in
    MD/WV out of areas east of the Allegheny Front, which are
    significantly drier and with higher FFGs than areas along and west.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Southern Rockies will interact with a
    cold front pressing south through the Central and Southern Plains
    by the late-afternoon and evening hours Thursday through Friday
    morning. A relevant theta_E differential will be aligned within
    the confines of the boundary providing a suitable thermodynamic
    alignment such that area convection anchors and pushes along the
    west to east oriented instability gradient across Southern OK.
    Majority of CAMs are in consensus of a heavy rainfall footprint
    along and south of I-40, generally configured to the timing of the
    cold front, shortwave interaction, and LLJ convergence signal. This
    is primarily right around 00z when the convective threat enhances
    with the integration of the nocturnal LLJ, a timing historically
    prevalent for this time of year and this setup is no exception.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are relatively high (50-80%)
    within the corridor extending from Southwest OK across the Red
    River Basin towards the AR border. >2" is highest just north of the
    river from I-35 on east, a testament to the timing of the
    shortwave arrival and upscale growth of the convective threat as it
    maneuvers to the east-southeast. Rainfall rates between 1-2"/hr are
    most likely when assessing the hourly rate probs from the both the
    NBM and HREF output, a rate assessment that is more than suitable
    considering the blanket low FFG intervals due to the antecedent
    moist soils from the past 36-48 hrs of rainfall. The areal QPF
    footprint of >1" aligned within those lower FFG's pretty much
    perfectly, a scenario that lends to a greater credence of a touch
    higher risk category that what is normal the case for this setup.
    The previous SLGT risk was relatively maintained with minor
    adjustments on the edges pertaining to recent hi-res QPF and in
    conjunction with the ML First Guess Fields.

    ...Interior Mid Atlantic...

    Shortwave trough currently positioned over the Southern Plains will
    lift northeast through the Mississippi Valley with sights on the
    Great Lakes region by the second half of the D1. Downstream, an
    improved diffluent signature will align over the Ohio Valley and
    points northeast allowing for regional ascent to boost convective
    initiation in-of places within that diffluent core. The most
    notable area for convective development lies within an established
    theta_E tongue riding northward through the Appalachians Front
    with poleward expansion into the southeastern Great Lakes. This
    allowed for moisture rich air exuding PWAT anomalies between +2 and
    +3 within the corridor extending through much of WV up through
    Eastern OH and Western PA to the Lake Erie border. SBCAPE between
    1500-2500 J/kg will be a common occurrence during peak diurnal
    destabilization creating a corridor of enhanced thermodynamic
    prospects to coincide with the arrival of the better mid-level
    forcing downstream of the approaching trough. Regional shear will
    be improving as well, especially within the confines of a shallow
    warm front that will be lifting northward through the course of the
    afternoon across the interior Mid Atlantic. Cell initiation will
    begin between 18-00z today with greater multi-cell cluster coverage
    likely to occur towards the back end of the above time frame due
    to anchoring along the warm front as it approaches. Areas across
    Western PA have been hit relatively hard recently with convective
    rainfall adding to the areal decoupling of the FFG indices meaning
    the prospects for flash flooding have increased with the arrival of
    this next disturbance.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" are between 30-50% across a
    large section of Western PA extending south into the northern High
    Country of WV, rooted in the Appalachians Front, an area notorious
    for flashy rivers and smaller towns located within the valleys.
    There was enough consensus to warrant an upgrade considering the
    antecedent conditions, atmospheric environmental favorability, as
    well as the increased probs denoting a locally heavy rain prospect
    over the region. A SLGT risk has been added to much of Western PA
    down into portions of the Central Appalachians.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...20Z Update...

    A small southward nudge to the inherited Slight was added with this
    update, with the Slight now including all of the upper Texas Gulf
    Coast. A higher end Slight (not depicted) is in effect for the San
    Antonio metro north and east, including the Houston Metro and into
    northern and western Louisiana.=20

    Overall very few changes were needed to the inherited risk areas.
    The Slight Risk remains for much of Texas, from portions of the Rio
    Grande Valley north and east to the Memphis metro. The heaviest
    rains will be associated with a southward moving line of storms
    with a cold front that will develop across central Texas Friday=20
    afternoon and progress south and east to the Gulf Coast into Friday
    night. Plentiful Gulf moisture ahead of the line with PWATs to 1.75
    inches around the Houston metro and MUCAPE values well above 2,000
    J/kg will favor very heavy rainfall rates with the strongest cores
    of storms capable of over 2 inches per hour rain rates.
    Fortunately, most of these areas of Texas have been drier than
    areas to the north towards Oklahoma, so the lack of overlap with
    previous rounds of heavy rain precluded the need for any Moderate
    Risk upgrades this afternoon. There is some agreement in the
    guidance that the heavy rain axis associated with the potential for
    some limited training will remain just north of Houston in the Big
    Thicket region. So long as this remains north of the most populated
    areas around Houston then the Slight Risk should be sufficient, but
    too much of a southward shift in that heavy rain axis would move
    the threat into more urbanized areas, in which case a Moderate Risk
    may be needed. 12Z HREF guidance shows an over 70% chance of 3
    inches or more of rain in the neighborhood probabilities from just
    west of the Louisiana border to Austin, remaining just north of
    I-10.=20

    The cold front driving these storms will advect much drier air into
    much of Oklahoma and north Texas, which will greatly diminish any
    storm threat in that area. For southeast Oklahoma, the threat is
    largely Friday morning with lingering convection from the MCS that
    will be progressing southeastward into northeast Texas and southern Arkansas/northern Louisiana.

    Storms will be less organized and much faster moving progressing
    northeast into the central Appalachians/western Pennsylvania. Thus,
    despite low FFGs from recent heavy rains, the Marginal should
    suffice for that area. Of course, should the storms slow down or
    develop into multiple rounds, then a Slight will be needed.
    Nonetheless, potential for heavy rains over saturated soils did
    necessitate a small expansion of the Marginal to the southern Tier
    of western New York.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Steady progression of a cold front through the Southern Plains will
    lead to textbook convergent pattern with an addition of a strong
    upper diffluence signature within the bounds of the southern jet
    proxy. High areal theta_E averages will denote the significant
    instability pattern positioned ahead of the approaching cold front
    leading to ample thermodynamic assistance for strong convective
    cores and expected heavy rainfall. Recent CAMs have finally come
    into view for the primary window of cell initiation with a
    widespread convective pattern likely to extend from the Stockton
    Plateau to points east within the I-10 corridor up through all of
    Hill Country, especially over the I-35 section of south-central TX.
    HREF blended mean QPF is over 2" now within a large area
    encompassing the terrain focused across the Central portion of the
    state. This had led to elevated neighborhood probs of >2" for the
    12-00z time frame in the forecast running >70% over pretty much all
    of the above region extending into portions of East TX. The East TX
    corridor has become a newer development in terms of anticipated QPF
    magnitude as the the CAMs and in some instances the global
    deterministic are now catching on to the deep moisture advection
    regime poking north out of the Western Gulf ahead of the front
    arrival. Forecast soundings across the area between Houston up to
    the latitude of Austin are now indicating MUCAPE or the order of
    3500-5000 J/kg prior to any front arrival leading to significant
    heavy cores to transpire due to cap breach from diurnal
    destabilization initially, followed by more organized multi-cell
    clusters as we move into the evening as the LLJ re-intensifies and
    the cold front motions into the region.

    Soundings also note a period of mean flow and upshear components
    that would lead to potential backbuilding within the confines of
    the front. Very strong ascent between 850-300mb is also noted
    within multiple CAMs outputs, a testament to the favorability for
    the setup to become more organized and providing a vast areal
    expanse of heavy convection once the setup matures. PWATs between
    1.6-1.9" with locally >2" are being forecast along and ahead of the
    front as it moves into Central TX, a forecast that traditionally is
    favored for greater flash flood prospects, especially over the
    favored I-35 corridor between Austin to San Antonio where high
    runoff capabilities are found due to soil type and limestone
    foundations. Local totals between 3-6" are likely over the entire
    stretch of Hill Country through East TX with the eastern most
    extent even shifting into Western LA as the convective pattern
    evolves and grows upscale entering into the adjacent Lower
    Mississippi Valley. Houston metro is now in play for convective
    impacts, especially as thunderstorms to the north provide outflow
    generation that could send cold pools south towards the Gulf coast
    with additional convective development along the edge of any
    approaching cold pool.

    The previous SLGT risk was relatively unchanged across Central TX.
    Some expansion to the west was made into the Stockton Plateau where
    initial cell formations will likely occur as the front arrives and
    interacts with a formidable instability axis aligned over the
    plateau itself. The SLGT was expanded southeast to cover the
    Houston metro and points north where there is growing consensus on
    convective impacts over and near the urban center. This is a high-
    end SLGT over much of Central TX, especially Hill Country to the
    I-35 corridor and points east. A risk upgrade is not out of the
    question in subsequent updates given the environmental
    favorability and flashy history of places expected to see the
    greatest thunderstorm coverage/rates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE CENTRAL
    GULF COAST TO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE=20
    GREAT BASIN...

    ...20Z Update...

    The inherited Marginal Risk was expanded south to the central Gulf
    Coast with this update, with no changes towards the Great Basin.

    Ongoing convection at the start of the period will impact the
    central Gulf Coast on Saturday morning. While this area can take a
    lot of rain before there are significant flooding issues, the
    urbanization along the coast should support isolated instances of
    flash flooding from New Orleans through Pensacola. Additional
    afternoon convection will develop all throughout the Marginal Risk
    area Saturday afternoon from the Gulf Coast through New York.
    Topographic concerns and urban areas will be at higher risk for
    potential flash flooding, but the otherwise progressive nature of
    the storms should preclude more than isolated flash flooding in the
    Marginal Risk area. PWATs over 1.5 inches from the Gulf Coast into
    central Alabama and western Georgia would favor the most storms
    capable of heavy rainfall. Depending on how much rainfall falls
    along the Gulf Coast, especially through Mobile Friday night, the
    additional rainfall Saturday could necessitate a Slight Risk
    issuance with future updates from southern Alabama roughly to the
    Atlanta area. Meanwhile further north once again the storms look to
    be progressive enough that only isolated instances of flash
    flooding are expected, including into western Pennsylvania.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Appalachians...

    An anomalous upper low center evolving over the Ohio Valley will
    generate a strong diffluent signature downstream across the
    Appalachians and points east with a significant moisture fetch
    poleward from the Gulf, and eventual Atlantic Basin by the end of
    the period. Organized convective activity will brew within the RER
    of a strengthening upper jet core located over Ontario/Quebec as
    the upper pattern becomes closed off to the west after 00z/Sun.
    NAEFS PWAT anomalies between +1 and +2 deviations will offer a
    suitable moisture rich environment conducive for stronger heavy
    convective cores capable of locally enhanced rainfall prospects
    within the confines of the great diffluent axis. As of this time,
    this places the Appalachians Front from Northern GA up through PA
    as the primary region of interest, however some elevated
    instability notions are present within some of the recent
    deterministic output. As of this time, a general 1-2" is forecast
    within the above corridor with some heavier cells even possible as
    far south as the Central Gulf Coast, but those are more aligned
    within the decaying surface front that is progged to breakdown
    before exiting the coastal plain. The area of focus will reside
    within that broad ascent pattern enhanced by the evolving amplified
    pattern to the east of the Mississippi with the complex terrain
    providing a secondary element that would favor isolated flash flood
    prospects. As a result, a broad MRGL risk extends from the
    Southern Appalachians up through Northeast PA where the current
    ensemble mean QPF is highest while also residing within the lower
    FFG indices available in the Eastern CONUS.

    ...Great Basin...

    Omega block pattern initiating over the CONUS will lead to yet
    another amplified upper low generation across the Western CONUS
    through D3. The threat for elevated convection in-of interior NV up
    into Southeast OR have been forecast for several days with the
    deterministic guidance basically "locked in" to the expected
    evolution. Despite rainfall rates rather low grade compared to what
    you normally find for flash flooding, this area has a notorious low
    FFG bias that tends to accentuate the flash flood prospects in this
    area of the CONUS. Recent ensemble means have been hovering between
    0.75-1.25" of total QPF within the corridor extending from Reno to
    points northeast with local maxima hovering up near 2" due to the
    added effect of greater upper forcing thanks to the maturing closed
    ULL reflection. This setup has been steady within the First Guess
    Fields for the threat and really hasn't wavered much in the MRGL
    risk output from the ML. Considering the factors above and a
    pattern more favorable for these convective schemes across the
    Great Basin, the previous MRGL risk inherited was maintained with a
    small expansion northward into Southeast OR to highlight QPF trends
    favoring better totals within those zones.

    Kleebauer


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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/99epoints.txt= __;!!DZ3fjg!_AXeGXVYEr-vZZQ09Z3U33RrgGXMG0xI5KfwPAIK3iZ7jG13_u_A5_OT4JjNPKI= uJU8hrpZuC8XxAL9LWfCRxrzny5s$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 020056
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    856 PM EDT Thu May 1 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Fri May 02 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR SOUTHERN
    OKLAHOMA AND FAR WESTERN ARKANSAS, SOUTH-CENTRAL TEXAS, AS WELL AS
    FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...01Z Update...

    A Slight Risk was added to portions of south-central Texas, from=20
    the U.S.-Mex border eastward through the Austin-San Antonio metros=20
    to College Station, where slow-moving, heavy-rainfall producing=20
    storms have increased in coverage this evening. Supported by moist, southeasterly low level inflow and high instability, some of these
    storms have shown rainfall rates of 2-3 in/hr, with MRMS indicating=20 estimated totals of over 4 inches in the past 3 hours. There is=20
    concern that conditions will remain favorable for continued=20
    development, with the heavy rainfall threat persisting longer and=20
    across a broader area than most of what the CAMs, including the=20
    HRRR, indicate. Given the observed rainfall rates and the rainfall=20
    already received in some areas, a Slight Risk was added. Refer to=20
    WPC MPD #206 for additional details concerning the threat across=20
    parts of this area.

    Also added a Marginal Risk across portions of central and southern
    California, where an upper level low interacting with PWs of
    0.75-1 inch is supporting showers and thunderstorms, mostly along
    the high terrain from the southern Sierra Nevada to the coastal
    ranges, including the San Gabriel and Sierra Madre. Some of these
    storms are producing torrential downpours and isolated flooding
    concerns. Storms are expected to diminish later this evening, but
    may pose additional concerns, especially across areas recently
    impacted by wildfires.

    Elsewhere, more minor adjustments were made to the previous outlook
    based on current observations and CAM guidance.

    Pereira

    ...16Z Update...

    Only very minor tweaks were needed to the Slight Risk areas across
    the Southern Plains and central Appalachians. For the southern
    Plains, the 12Z HiRes guidance shifted very slightly (10-20 miles)
    north with tonight's expected MCS development across Oklahoma.
    Given the high sensitivity of that entire area between Dallas and
    Oklahoma City for heavy rainfall, the Slight Risk was maintained.
    The 12Z HRRR followed previous runs suggesting there may be
    training showers that get hung up on the southern end of the MCS
    just north of the Red River, but by then the instability should be
    largely used up and therefore rates should come down a bit. Given
    that, the Slight was maintained with no upgrades...though it
    wouldn't take much of an uptick in future guidance to possibly need
    a targeted Moderate, depending on if the guidance can come into
    better agreement on where the axis of heaviest rain will set up.

    Over to the Central Appalachians, the guidance unfortunately
    remains in poorer agreement than in the southern Plains. Expect
    more widely scattered convection to impact the area starting this
    afternoon, developing into one or more lines of storms by the
    evening. Each line will be very progressive/fast-moving, so
    individual storms will not have much of a flooding impact. However,
    with multiple rounds of showers and storms expected in an area
    recently hard hit with heavy rain, the multiple rounds of storms
    may collectively add up to widely scattered instances of flash
    flooding into this evening. The inherited Slight was trimmed in
    MD/WV out of areas east of the Allegheny Front, which are
    significantly drier and with higher FFGs than areas along and west.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    Shortwave ejection out of the Southern Rockies will interact with a
    cold front pressing south through the Central and Southern Plains
    by the late-afternoon and evening hours Thursday through Friday
    morning. A relevant theta_E differential will be aligned within
    the confines of the boundary providing a suitable thermodynamic
    alignment such that area convection anchors and pushes along the
    west to east oriented instability gradient across Southern OK.
    Majority of CAMs are in consensus of a heavy rainfall footprint
    along and south of I-40, generally configured to the timing of the
    cold front, shortwave interaction, and LLJ convergence signal. This
    is primarily right around 00z when the convective threat enhances
    with the integration of the nocturnal LLJ, a timing historically
    prevalent for this time of year and this setup is no exception.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >1" are relatively high (50-80%)
    within the corridor extending from Southwest OK across the Red
    River Basin towards the AR border. >2" is highest just north of the
    river from I-35 on east, a testament to the timing of the
    shortwave arrival and upscale growth of the convective threat as it
    maneuvers to the east-southeast. Rainfall rates between 1-2"/hr are
    most likely when assessing the hourly rate probs from the both the
    NBM and HREF output, a rate assessment that is more than suitable
    considering the blanket low FFG intervals due to the antecedent
    moist soils from the past 36-48 hrs of rainfall. The areal QPF
    footprint of >1" aligned within those lower FFG's pretty much
    perfectly, a scenario that lends to a greater credence of a touch
    higher risk category that what is normal the case for this setup.
    The previous SLGT risk was relatively maintained with minor
    adjustments on the edges pertaining to recent hi-res QPF and in
    conjunction with the ML First Guess Fields.

    ...Interior Mid Atlantic...

    Shortwave trough currently positioned over the Southern Plains will
    lift northeast through the Mississippi Valley with sights on the
    Great Lakes region by the second half of the D1. Downstream, an
    improved diffluent signature will align over the Ohio Valley and
    points northeast allowing for regional ascent to boost convective
    initiation in-of places within that diffluent core. The most
    notable area for convective development lies within an established
    theta_E tongue riding northward through the Appalachians Front
    with poleward expansion into the southeastern Great Lakes. This
    allowed for moisture rich air exuding PWAT anomalies between +2 and
    +3 within the corridor extending through much of WV up through
    Eastern OH and Western PA to the Lake Erie border. SBCAPE between
    1500-2500 J/kg will be a common occurrence during peak diurnal
    destabilization creating a corridor of enhanced thermodynamic
    prospects to coincide with the arrival of the better mid-level
    forcing downstream of the approaching trough. Regional shear will
    be improving as well, especially within the confines of a shallow
    warm front that will be lifting northward through the course of the
    afternoon across the interior Mid Atlantic. Cell initiation will
    begin between 18-00z today with greater multi-cell cluster coverage
    likely to occur towards the back end of the above time frame due
    to anchoring along the warm front as it approaches. Areas across
    Western PA have been hit relatively hard recently with convective
    rainfall adding to the areal decoupling of the FFG indices meaning
    the prospects for flash flooding have increased with the arrival of
    this next disturbance.

    00z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" are between 30-50% across a
    large section of Western PA extending south into the northern High
    Country of WV, rooted in the Appalachians Front, an area notorious
    for flashy rivers and smaller towns located within the valleys.
    There was enough consensus to warrant an upgrade considering the
    antecedent conditions, atmospheric environmental favorability, as
    well as the increased probs denoting a locally heavy rain prospect
    over the region. A SLGT risk has been added to much of Western PA
    down into portions of the Central Appalachians.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...20Z Update...

    A small southward nudge to the inherited Slight was added with this
    update, with the Slight now including all of the upper Texas Gulf
    Coast. A higher end Slight (not depicted) is in effect for the San
    Antonio metro north and east, including the Houston Metro and into
    northern and western Louisiana.

    Overall very few changes were needed to the inherited risk areas.
    The Slight Risk remains for much of Texas, from portions of the Rio
    Grande Valley north and east to the Memphis metro. The heaviest
    rains will be associated with a southward moving line of storms
    with a cold front that will develop across central Texas Friday
    afternoon and progress south and east to the Gulf Coast into Friday
    night. Plentiful Gulf moisture ahead of the line with PWATs to 1.75
    inches around the Houston metro and MUCAPE values well above 2,000
    J/kg will favor very heavy rainfall rates with the strongest cores
    of storms capable of over 2 inches per hour rain rates.
    Fortunately, most of these areas of Texas have been drier than
    areas to the north towards Oklahoma, so the lack of overlap with
    previous rounds of heavy rain precluded the need for any Moderate
    Risk upgrades this afternoon. There is some agreement in the
    guidance that the heavy rain axis associated with the potential for
    some limited training will remain just north of Houston in the Big
    Thicket region. So long as this remains north of the most populated
    areas around Houston then the Slight Risk should be sufficient, but
    too much of a southward shift in that heavy rain axis would move
    the threat into more urbanized areas, in which case a Moderate Risk
    may be needed. 12Z HREF guidance shows an over 70% chance of 3
    inches or more of rain in the neighborhood probabilities from just
    west of the Louisiana border to Austin, remaining just north of
    I-10.

    The cold front driving these storms will advect much drier air into
    much of Oklahoma and north Texas, which will greatly diminish any
    storm threat in that area. For southeast Oklahoma, the threat is
    largely Friday morning with lingering convection from the MCS that
    will be progressing southeastward into northeast Texas and southern Arkansas/northern Louisiana.

    Storms will be less organized and much faster moving progressing
    northeast into the central Appalachians/western Pennsylvania. Thus,
    despite low FFGs from recent heavy rains, the Marginal should
    suffice for that area. Of course, should the storms slow down or
    develop into multiple rounds, then a Slight will be needed.
    Nonetheless, potential for heavy rains over saturated soils did
    necessitate a small expansion of the Marginal to the southern Tier
    of western New York.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Steady progression of a cold front through the Southern Plains will
    lead to textbook convergent pattern with an addition of a strong
    upper diffluence signature within the bounds of the southern jet
    proxy. High areal theta_E averages will denote the significant
    instability pattern positioned ahead of the approaching cold front
    leading to ample thermodynamic assistance for strong convective
    cores and expected heavy rainfall. Recent CAMs have finally come
    into view for the primary window of cell initiation with a
    widespread convective pattern likely to extend from the Stockton
    Plateau to points east within the I-10 corridor up through all of
    Hill Country, especially over the I-35 section of south-central TX.
    HREF blended mean QPF is over 2" now within a large area
    encompassing the terrain focused across the Central portion of the
    state. This had led to elevated neighborhood probs of >2" for the
    12-00z time frame in the forecast running >70% over pretty much all
    of the above region extending into portions of East TX. The East TX
    corridor has become a newer development in terms of anticipated QPF
    magnitude as the the CAMs and in some instances the global
    deterministic are now catching on to the deep moisture advection
    regime poking north out of the Western Gulf ahead of the front
    arrival. Forecast soundings across the area between Houston up to
    the latitude of Austin are now indicating MUCAPE or the order of
    3500-5000 J/kg prior to any front arrival leading to significant
    heavy cores to transpire due to cap breach from diurnal
    destabilization initially, followed by more organized multi-cell
    clusters as we move into the evening as the LLJ re-intensifies and
    the cold front motions into the region.

    Soundings also note a period of mean flow and upshear components
    that would lead to potential backbuilding within the confines of
    the front. Very strong ascent between 850-300mb is also noted
    within multiple CAMs outputs, a testament to the favorability for
    the setup to become more organized and providing a vast areal
    expanse of heavy convection once the setup matures. PWATs between
    1.6-1.9" with locally >2" are being forecast along and ahead of the
    front as it moves into Central TX, a forecast that traditionally is
    favored for greater flash flood prospects, especially over the
    favored I-35 corridor between Austin to San Antonio where high
    runoff capabilities are found due to soil type and limestone
    foundations. Local totals between 3-6" are likely over the entire
    stretch of Hill Country through East TX with the eastern most
    extent even shifting into Western LA as the convective pattern
    evolves and grows upscale entering into the adjacent Lower
    Mississippi Valley. Houston metro is now in play for convective
    impacts, especially as thunderstorms to the north provide outflow
    generation that could send cold pools south towards the Gulf coast
    with additional convective development along the edge of any
    approaching cold pool.

    The previous SLGT risk was relatively unchanged across Central TX.
    Some expansion to the west was made into the Stockton Plateau where
    initial cell formations will likely occur as the front arrives and
    interacts with a formidable instability axis aligned over the
    plateau itself. The SLGT was expanded southeast to cover the
    Houston metro and points north where there is growing consensus on
    convective impacts over and near the urban center. This is a high-
    end SLGT over much of Central TX, especially Hill Country to the
    I-35 corridor and points east. A risk upgrade is not out of the
    question in subsequent updates given the environmental
    favorability and flashy history of places expected to see the
    greatest thunderstorm coverage/rates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE CENTRAL
    GULF COAST TO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE
    GREAT BASIN...

    ...20Z Update...

    The inherited Marginal Risk was expanded south to the central Gulf
    Coast with this update, with no changes towards the Great Basin.

    Ongoing convection at the start of the period will impact the
    central Gulf Coast on Saturday morning. While this area can take a
    lot of rain before there are significant flooding issues, the
    urbanization along the coast should support isolated instances of
    flash flooding from New Orleans through Pensacola. Additional
    afternoon convection will develop all throughout the Marginal Risk
    area Saturday afternoon from the Gulf Coast through New York.
    Topographic concerns and urban areas will be at higher risk for
    potential flash flooding, but the otherwise progressive nature of
    the storms should preclude more than isolated flash flooding in the
    Marginal Risk area. PWATs over 1.5 inches from the Gulf Coast into
    central Alabama and western Georgia would favor the most storms
    capable of heavy rainfall. Depending on how much rainfall falls
    along the Gulf Coast, especially through Mobile Friday night, the
    additional rainfall Saturday could necessitate a Slight Risk
    issuance with future updates from southern Alabama roughly to the
    Atlanta area. Meanwhile further north once again the storms look to
    be progressive enough that only isolated instances of flash
    flooding are expected, including into western Pennsylvania.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Appalachians...

    An anomalous upper low center evolving over the Ohio Valley will
    generate a strong diffluent signature downstream across the
    Appalachians and points east with a significant moisture fetch
    poleward from the Gulf, and eventual Atlantic Basin by the end of
    the period. Organized convective activity will brew within the RER
    of a strengthening upper jet core located over Ontario/Quebec as
    the upper pattern becomes closed off to the west after 00z/Sun.
    NAEFS PWAT anomalies between +1 and +2 deviations will offer a
    suitable moisture rich environment conducive for stronger heavy
    convective cores capable of locally enhanced rainfall prospects
    within the confines of the great diffluent axis. As of this time,
    this places the Appalachians Front from Northern GA up through PA
    as the primary region of interest, however some elevated
    instability notions are present within some of the recent
    deterministic output. As of this time, a general 1-2" is forecast
    within the above corridor with some heavier cells even possible as
    far south as the Central Gulf Coast, but those are more aligned
    within the decaying surface front that is progged to breakdown
    before exiting the coastal plain. The area of focus will reside
    within that broad ascent pattern enhanced by the evolving amplified
    pattern to the east of the Mississippi with the complex terrain
    providing a secondary element that would favor isolated flash flood
    prospects. As a result, a broad MRGL risk extends from the
    Southern Appalachians up through Northeast PA where the current
    ensemble mean QPF is highest while also residing within the lower
    FFG indices available in the Eastern CONUS.

    ...Great Basin...

    Omega block pattern initiating over the CONUS will lead to yet
    another amplified upper low generation across the Western CONUS
    through D3. The threat for elevated convection in-of interior NV up
    into Southeast OR have been forecast for several days with the
    deterministic guidance basically "locked in" to the expected
    evolution. Despite rainfall rates rather low grade compared to what
    you normally find for flash flooding, this area has a notorious low
    FFG bias that tends to accentuate the flash flood prospects in this
    area of the CONUS. Recent ensemble means have been hovering between
    0.75-1.25" of total QPF within the corridor extending from Reno to
    points northeast with local maxima hovering up near 2" due to the
    added effect of greater upper forcing thanks to the maturing closed
    ULL reflection. This setup has been steady within the First Guess
    Fields for the threat and really hasn't wavered much in the MRGL
    risk output from the ML. Considering the factors above and a
    pattern more favorable for these convective schemes across the
    Great Basin, the previous MRGL risk inherited was maintained with a
    small expansion northward into Southeast OR to highlight QPF trends
    favoring better totals within those zones.

    Kleebauer


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    FOUS30 KWBC 020825
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    425 AM EDT Fri May 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND MID-SOUTH AND LOWER MISSISSIPPI...

    Another round of thunderstorms is expected to develop along and
    ahead of a southward moving cold front on Friday...with guidance
    still focusing the greatest chances for excessive rainfall from
    portions of the Mid-South into the Southern Plains Friday into
    Friday night as weak waves propagate northeastward along the front.
    Southerly low level flow will draw Gulf moisture northward...helping
    increase precipitable water values ahead of the front to 1.5 to=20
    1.75 inches at the time of the peak heating in a stripe from Texas=20
    into southern Arkansas. Forecast soundings depict an atmosphere=20
    supportive of rainfall rates exceeding 2 inches per hour. As=20
    mentioned previously...the potential for a prolonged period of=20
    training is fairly minimal so a Slight Risk still seems to cover=20
    the potential. 00Z HREF neighborhood probabilities of 1-hour QPF
    exceeding 2 inches were over 30 percent in parts of southeast TX
    with lower probabilities extending into parts of Arkansas.

    A Marginal Risk area surrounding the Slight Risk area extends as
    far northeastward as parts of the Great Lakes. Precipitable water=20
    values were generally at or below 1.25 inches ahead of the=20
    advancing cold front but guidance still showed enough instability=20
    to support showers and thunderstorms over an area that was still=20
    had lingering hydrologic sensitivity following recent heavy=20
    rainfall. In addition...the area will be underneath a right=20
    entrance region of an upper level jet stream aiding upper level=20
    support during the afternoon.=20

    Farther west...there is also a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall
    from late day and evening convection over the terrain of New
    Mexico. The QPF is fairly modest but even modest rainfall rates
    could result in isolated problems with run off...especially if the
    rain falls on recent burn scars.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ....THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE GULF
    COAST REGION INTO PARTS OF THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES...

    The focus for excessive rainfall will shift eastward as a closed
    mid-level circulation center takes shape over the nation's mid-
    section. The mid- and upper-level flow backs with time from the
    Gulf coast northward across parts of the Tennessee and Ohio
    Valleys. Initially...this allows deeper moisture to stream
    northward. But it also results in the surface/low level front to
    move eastward more quickly later in the period...with generally a=20
    low-end risk of flooding from the Gulf coast northward. The 02/00Z=20
    suite of numerical guidance hint that there could be some 1 inch to
    perhaps 2 inch amounts where frontogenetic forcing aligns=20
    favorably in between the Gulf and the Ohio Valley...but the signal=20
    for excessive rainfall showed little run to run / model to model=20 consistency.

    There is also a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall over far
    southern portion of Texas...where the southern end of the cold has
    stalled its southward progression and return flow of Gulf moisture
    has begun. Several of the High Res ensemble highlight this area=20
    with QPF in the upper percentiles although the consensus is less=20
    than unanimous in amounts or placement. With soundings showing=20
    warm cloud processes through a deep layer and the CAPE profile is=20
    tall and skinny...introduced a Marginal risk here.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES ...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a broad upper trough continues to make
    its way eastward on Day 3. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches
    will be eventually be shunted off-shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are possible with spaghetti plots of
    2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours mainly being produced by models
    with the ARW core...but enough members from the NMM core and from
    the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching=20
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low=20
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and=20
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Se0ur8FErs805wBNmvpyvr1OpWoZfq9pUfSi5-fm4rs= h9JCwjDbZ0n96xW9uE8KdvYoVLPj6JLNVXNRHThj55UDT44$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Se0ur8FErs805wBNmvpyvr1OpWoZfq9pUfSi5-fm4rs= h9JCwjDbZ0n96xW9uE8KdvYoVLPj6JLNVXNRHThj5jK99Zw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8Se0ur8FErs805wBNmvpyvr1OpWoZfq9pUfSi5-fm4rs= h9JCwjDbZ0n96xW9uE8KdvYoVLPj6JLNVXNRHThjYlnzffo$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 021551
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1151 AM EDT Fri May 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, LOWER MISSISSIPPI, AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS...

    ...16Z Update...

    The most notable change with the midday update was to expand the
    Slight eastward to include more of Tennessee and Alabama. The
    Nashville, Chattanooga, and Birmingham metros are now upgraded to a Slight-risk, albeit a lower-end, lower confidence one.

    Numerous areas of thunderstorms are expected to develop this
    afternoon in response to growing instability and Gulf moisture
    across the southern US ahead of a sweeping cold front. These storms
    are forecast in the guidance to develop into several clusters. The
    westernmost one over Texas will have the greatest potential to
    cause flash flooding, as the southward push of the front is most
    likely to stall out there as compared with areas further east.
    Fortunately, once the current MCS over north Texas pushes further
    south in response to new thunderstorm development this afternoon,
    that should be the end of the heavy rain threat in that area for a
    couple days. The best chance for training storms will generally be
    from Austin east to roughly the Louisiana border, which has been
    consistent in the guidance for at least the last 24 hours. Only a
    small portion of this area was hit with heavy rain yesterday, and
    with individual cells moving along with some southward component to
    their motion, think the threat doesn't quite rise to the Moderate
    Risk level, so the area remains in a Slight Risk.

    Atmospheric ingredients remain favorable for the development of
    flash flooding, with afternoon MUCAPE values expected to approach
    3,000 J/kg across the Mid-South and PWATs in most areas between
    1.25 and 1.5 inches. This is about 1-1.5 sigma above climatology
    for this area. The PWATs will remain favorable as a 20-30 kt=20
    southwesterly flow at 850 advects more Gulf moisture into the=20
    storms that is lost from rainfall.

    Thunderstorms will be a bit more progressive further east into
    northern Louisiana and southern Arkansas, but that area has been
    hard-hit with heavy rains over the past week, and soil moisture
    levels remain quite high. Thus, with antecedent conditions more
    favorable, the higher end Slight remains in effect for this area
    with few changes.

    Further east, as mentioned above the Slight Risk was expanded east
    to include more of Alabama and Tennessee. The combination of urban
    concerns in Nashville, Chattanooga, and Birmingham, some potential
    for pre-line convection developing over those metros, and at or
    above normal soil moisture levels in those areas favored the
    upgrade to a lower-end Slight. The fast-moving progressive nature
    of all of the storms, especially any line segments, does mitigate
    the flash flood potential.

    Finally, further up the front into the upper Ohio Valley and New
    York, the storms will be moving even more quickly, with less Gulf
    moisture to work with, but recent heavy rains in this area have
    made antecedent soil moisture conditions very favorable for the
    development of additional flash flooding, so the Marginal Risk area
    was expanded northeastward, though the severe threat in this area
    looks to be much greater.

    No changes were made to the Marginal Risk across portions of
    central and western New Mexico with few changes there in the
    guidance.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Another round of thunderstorms is expected to develop along and
    ahead of a southward moving cold front on Friday...with guidance
    still focusing the greatest chances for excessive rainfall from
    portions of the Mid-South into the Southern Plains Friday into
    Friday night as weak waves propagate northeastward along the front.
    Southerly low level flow will draw Gulf moisture northward...helping
    increase precipitable water values ahead of the front to 1.5 to
    1.75 inches at the time of the peak heating in a stripe from Texas
    into southern Arkansas. Forecast soundings depict an atmosphere
    supportive of rainfall rates exceeding 2 inches per hour. As
    mentioned previously...the potential for a prolonged period of
    training is fairly minimal so a Slight Risk still seems to cover
    the potential. 00Z HREF neighborhood probabilities of 1-hour QPF
    exceeding 2 inches were over 30 percent in parts of southeast TX
    with lower probabilities extending into parts of Arkansas.

    A Marginal Risk area surrounding the Slight Risk area extends as
    far northeastward as parts of the Great Lakes. Precipitable water
    values were generally at or below 1.25 inches ahead of the
    advancing cold front but guidance still showed enough instability
    to support showers and thunderstorms over an area that was still
    had lingering hydrologic sensitivity following recent heavy
    rainfall. In addition...the area will be underneath a right
    entrance region of an upper level jet stream aiding upper level
    support during the afternoon.

    Farther west...there is also a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall
    from late day and evening convection over the terrain of New
    Mexico. The QPF is fairly modest but even modest rainfall rates
    could result in isolated problems with run off...especially if the
    rain falls on recent burn scars.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ....THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE GULF
    COAST REGION INTO PARTS OF THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES...

    The focus for excessive rainfall will shift eastward as a closed
    mid-level circulation center takes shape over the nation's mid-
    section. The mid- and upper-level flow backs with time from the
    Gulf coast northward across parts of the Tennessee and Ohio
    Valleys. Initially...this allows deeper moisture to stream
    northward. But it also results in the surface/low level front to
    move eastward more quickly later in the period...with generally a
    low-end risk of flooding from the Gulf coast northward. The 02/00Z
    suite of numerical guidance hint that there could be some 1 inch to
    perhaps 2 inch amounts where frontogenetic forcing aligns
    favorably in between the Gulf and the Ohio Valley...but the signal
    for excessive rainfall showed little run to run / model to model
    consistency.

    There is also a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall over far
    southern portion of Texas...where the southern end of the cold has
    stalled its southward progression and return flow of Gulf moisture
    has begun. Several of the High Res ensemble highlight this area
    with QPF in the upper percentiles although the consensus is less
    than unanimous in amounts or placement. With soundings showing
    warm cloud processes through a deep layer and the CAPE profile is
    tall and skinny...introduced a Marginal risk here.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES ...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a broad upper trough continues to make
    its way eastward on Day 3. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches
    will be eventually be shunted off-shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are possible with spaghetti plots of
    2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours mainly being produced by models
    with the ARW core...but enough members from the NMM core and from
    the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Zq6E6KYIAsErfHvCj-V_vwbM4OhwNlyWxzjTEfImoV2= Zx41mNloEXwH2hkhpYW_fwAFMeyMQCN49jYbXLZBfVaCZ5Y$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Zq6E6KYIAsErfHvCj-V_vwbM4OhwNlyWxzjTEfImoV2= Zx41mNloEXwH2hkhpYW_fwAFMeyMQCN49jYbXLZBWnEfy2s$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6Zq6E6KYIAsErfHvCj-V_vwbM4OhwNlyWxzjTEfImoV2= Zx41mNloEXwH2hkhpYW_fwAFMeyMQCN49jYbXLZBxUwaILM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri May 2 20:00:18 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 022000
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    400 PM EDT Fri May 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri May 02 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, LOWER MISSISSIPPI, AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS...

    ...16Z Update...

    The most notable change with the midday update was to expand the
    Slight eastward to include more of Tennessee and Alabama. The
    Nashville, Chattanooga, and Birmingham metros are now upgraded to a Slight-risk, albeit a lower-end, lower confidence one.

    Numerous areas of thunderstorms are expected to develop this
    afternoon in response to growing instability and Gulf moisture
    across the southern US ahead of a sweeping cold front. These storms
    are forecast in the guidance to develop into several clusters. The
    westernmost one over Texas will have the greatest potential to
    cause flash flooding, as the southward push of the front is most
    likely to stall out there as compared with areas further east.
    Fortunately, once the current MCS over north Texas pushes further
    south in response to new thunderstorm development this afternoon,
    that should be the end of the heavy rain threat in that area for a
    couple days. The best chance for training storms will generally be
    from Austin east to roughly the Louisiana border, which has been
    consistent in the guidance for at least the last 24 hours. Only a
    small portion of this area was hit with heavy rain yesterday, and
    with individual cells moving along with some southward component to
    their motion, think the threat doesn't quite rise to the Moderate
    Risk level, so the area remains in a Slight Risk.

    Atmospheric ingredients remain favorable for the development of
    flash flooding, with afternoon MUCAPE values expected to approach
    3,000 J/kg across the Mid-South and PWATs in most areas between
    1.25 and 1.5 inches. This is about 1-1.5 sigma above climatology
    for this area. The PWATs will remain favorable as a 20-30 kt
    southwesterly flow at 850 advects more Gulf moisture into the
    storms that is lost from rainfall.

    Thunderstorms will be a bit more progressive further east into
    northern Louisiana and southern Arkansas, but that area has been
    hard-hit with heavy rains over the past week, and soil moisture
    levels remain quite high. Thus, with antecedent conditions more
    favorable, the higher end Slight remains in effect for this area
    with few changes.

    Further east, as mentioned above the Slight Risk was expanded east
    to include more of Alabama and Tennessee. The combination of urban
    concerns in Nashville, Chattanooga, and Birmingham, some potential
    for pre-line convection developing over those metros, and at or
    above normal soil moisture levels in those areas favored the
    upgrade to a lower-end Slight. The fast-moving progressive nature
    of all of the storms, especially any line segments, does mitigate
    the flash flood potential.

    Finally, further up the front into the upper Ohio Valley and New
    York, the storms will be moving even more quickly, with less Gulf
    moisture to work with, but recent heavy rains in this area have
    made antecedent soil moisture conditions very favorable for the
    development of additional flash flooding, so the Marginal Risk area
    was expanded northeastward, though the severe threat in this area
    looks to be much greater.

    No changes were made to the Marginal Risk across portions of
    central and western New Mexico with few changes there in the
    guidance.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Another round of thunderstorms is expected to develop along and
    ahead of a southward moving cold front on Friday...with guidance
    still focusing the greatest chances for excessive rainfall from
    portions of the Mid-South into the Southern Plains Friday into
    Friday night as weak waves propagate northeastward along the front.
    Southerly low level flow will draw Gulf moisture northward...helping
    increase precipitable water values ahead of the front to 1.5 to
    1.75 inches at the time of the peak heating in a stripe from Texas
    into southern Arkansas. Forecast soundings depict an atmosphere
    supportive of rainfall rates exceeding 2 inches per hour. As
    mentioned previously...the potential for a prolonged period of
    training is fairly minimal so a Slight Risk still seems to cover
    the potential. 00Z HREF neighborhood probabilities of 1-hour QPF
    exceeding 2 inches were over 30 percent in parts of southeast TX
    with lower probabilities extending into parts of Arkansas.

    A Marginal Risk area surrounding the Slight Risk area extends as
    far northeastward as parts of the Great Lakes. Precipitable water
    values were generally at or below 1.25 inches ahead of the
    advancing cold front but guidance still showed enough instability
    to support showers and thunderstorms over an area that was still
    had lingering hydrologic sensitivity following recent heavy
    rainfall. In addition...the area will be underneath a right
    entrance region of an upper level jet stream aiding upper level
    support during the afternoon.

    Farther west...there is also a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall
    from late day and evening convection over the terrain of New
    Mexico. The QPF is fairly modest but even modest rainfall rates
    could result in isolated problems with run off...especially if the
    rain falls on recent burn scars.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ....THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE GULF
    COAST REGION INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST, EXTREME DEEP SOUTH TEXAS,
    AND THE SACRAMENTO MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO...

    ...20Z Update...

    The Marginal Risk across portions of the East Coast was expanded
    east to include portions of the I-95 corridor through DC and
    Baltimore, the Piedmont of the Carolinas, and expanded west into
    east central Illinois. A new Marginal Risk was issued for the
    Sacramento Mountains of New Mexico.

    Due to uncertainties with potential training storms up the Blue
    Ridge of VA into PA, including impacts into the DC and Baltimore
    metros, a low-end Marginal expanded to include that portion of the
    I-95 corridor with this update. Most of the guidance suggests any
    heavier rains and training storms will be west of the metro, and
    the ongoing severe drought will mitigate most impacts, but an
    isolated flood can't be ruled out should training storms move over
    those cities. Given some instability expected into southern New
    England, the Marginal was also expanded into western MA and CT on
    the assumption that northeastward moving storms may persist longer
    into New England. Wraparound rain around the north side of a cutoff
    low over Illinois has resulted in a decently well agreed upon
    maximum of rainfall into east central Illinois, so the Marginal was
    expanded west for that as well.

    The Marginal in extreme deep south Texas was trimmed from the north
    to exclude areas with very high FFGs. It appears increasingly
    likely that the storms impacting that area, if they train, will be
    south of the border, but some potential remains into McAllen and
    Brownsville for training storms, so the Marginal was left in place
    for those urban centers.

    In coordination with ABQ/Albuquerque WFO, a Marginal was introduced
    for the Sacramento Mountains for the potential for nearly
    stationary storms tied to the terrain impacting old burn scar areas
    near Ruidoso, NM.=20=20

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The focus for excessive rainfall will shift eastward as a closed
    mid-level circulation center takes shape over the nation's mid-
    section. The mid- and upper-level flow backs with time from the
    Gulf coast northward across parts of the Tennessee and Ohio
    Valleys. Initially...this allows deeper moisture to stream
    northward. But it also results in the surface/low level front to
    move eastward more quickly later in the period...with generally a
    low-end risk of flooding from the Gulf coast northward. The 02/00Z
    suite of numerical guidance hint that there could be some 1 inch to
    perhaps 2 inch amounts where frontogenetic forcing aligns
    favorably in between the Gulf and the Ohio Valley...but the signal
    for excessive rainfall showed little run to run / model to model
    consistency.

    There is also a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall over far
    southern portion of Texas...where the southern end of the cold has
    stalled its southward progression and return flow of Gulf moisture
    has begun. Several of the High Res ensemble highlight this area
    with QPF in the upper percentiles although the consensus is less
    than unanimous in amounts or placement. With soundings showing
    warm cloud processes through a deep layer and the CAPE profile is
    tall and skinny...introduced a Marginal risk here.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES ...

    ...20Z Update...

    The Marginal Risk across the East Coast was expanded greatly to
    include much of the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and coastal Carolinas,
    with the other Marginal expanded well west to include portions of
    southwest Colorado, southern Utah, and eastern Nevada with this
    update.

    The Marginal across the east will be for continue training showers
    and storms into New England, with a maximum of rainfall likely near
    the Catskills and Poconos of NY and PA, respectively. Rates should
    remain low enough with some breaks in the rain that amounts remain
    within Marginal thresholds, but should the Day 2/Saturday rainfall
    overperform in this area or if the forecast rain comes up for
    Sunday, then a targeted Slight risk may be needed. Occasional
    storms with MUCAPE instability values between 500 and 1,000 J/kg
    are more likely to impact more of the I-95 corridor from Raleigh,
    NC through NYC. Drought conditions are very likely to temper all
    but the most persistent rains, but given the sensitivities in the
    urban corridor, the Marginal was expanded to account for potential
    training storms.

    The Marginal Risk out west was expanded with a deep but slow moving
    upper level low and trough moving across the 4-corners region,
    drawing some Gulf moisture well northwest and into the area, where
    terrain will cause localized upslope. Rocky terrain will also favor
    rapid development of flash flooding in the local areas where the
    rain is most persistent. The highest elevations will see mostly
    snow from this event, but most of the area should see rain, which
    is the rationale for the expansion of the Marginal. The San Juans
    will have some of the heaviest precipitation, which should lower
    snow levels locally enough to carve that area out of the Marginal
    with this update.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a broad upper trough continues to make
    its way eastward on Day 3. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches
    will be eventually be shunted off-shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are possible with spaghetti plots of
    2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours mainly being produced by models
    with the ARW core...but enough members from the NMM core and from
    the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!67oFAOdrDstnwlQclUaUZKyykGGcgqjaVa3ERZigDsW9= LzYavGn_3WsWyynCpgGsEMAbB06_ehrmtlSSQrKcQ5qADyc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!67oFAOdrDstnwlQclUaUZKyykGGcgqjaVa3ERZigDsW9= LzYavGn_3WsWyynCpgGsEMAbB06_ehrmtlSSQrKcQQ1t4_k$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!67oFAOdrDstnwlQclUaUZKyykGGcgqjaVa3ERZigDsW9= LzYavGn_3WsWyynCpgGsEMAbB06_ehrmtlSSQrKcjk_OGw4$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat May 3 01:00:33 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 030100
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    900 PM EDT Fri May 2 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sat May 03 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, LOWER MISSISSIPPI, TO THE SOUTHERN
    APPALACHIANS...

    01Z Update...

    Biggest adjustment to the previous outlook was to trim away the
    northwestern extent of the previous outlooks across northern Texas=20
    where the heavy rain and flooding threat has ended and where=20
    additional development is not expected.

    A Slight Risk remains in place from Southwest through South-
    Central Texas into Southwest Louisiana where locally heavy showers=20
    will continue through the evening hours -- producing additional=20
    areas of flash flooding. Refer to WPC MPD #212 for additional=20
    information regarding the near-term heavy rain and flooding threat=20
    across this area.

    Further to the east, extended the previous Slight Risk area south
    into parts of southeastern Louisiana, southern Mississippi,=20
    Alabama, and the far western Florida Panhandle. Recent runs of the=20
    HRRR and some of the other CAM guidance show slow-moving convection
    developing later this evening along an axis of enhanced=20
    convergence near the coast, with possible mergers with the upstream
    convection now moving across the lower Mississippi Valley. The 18Z
    HREF shows high neighborhood probabilities for evening/overnight=20 accumulations exceeding 3 inches centered near Mobile Bay.

    Similar to areas back to the west, the Slight Risk was trimmed out
    of the Tennessee Valley where the rainfall has ended. A Slight=20
    Risk was maintained from central Alabama northeastward into the=20
    southern Applachians where convection continues to develop and move
    ahead of an upstream front.
    =20
    Pereira

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ....THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE GULF
    COAST REGION INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST, EXTREME DEEP SOUTH TEXAS,
    AND THE SACRAMENTO MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO...

    ...20Z Update...

    The Marginal Risk across portions of the East Coast was expanded
    east to include portions of the I-95 corridor through DC and
    Baltimore, the Piedmont of the Carolinas, and expanded west into
    east central Illinois. A new Marginal Risk was issued for the
    Sacramento Mountains of New Mexico.

    Due to uncertainties with potential training storms up the Blue
    Ridge of VA into PA, including impacts into the DC and Baltimore
    metros, a low-end Marginal expanded to include that portion of the
    I-95 corridor with this update. Most of the guidance suggests any
    heavier rains and training storms will be west of the metro, and
    the ongoing severe drought will mitigate most impacts, but an
    isolated flood can't be ruled out should training storms move over
    those cities. Given some instability expected into southern New
    England, the Marginal was also expanded into western MA and CT on
    the assumption that northeastward moving storms may persist longer
    into New England. Wraparound rain around the north side of a cutoff
    low over Illinois has resulted in a decently well agreed upon
    maximum of rainfall into east central Illinois, so the Marginal was
    expanded west for that as well.

    The Marginal in extreme deep south Texas was trimmed from the north
    to exclude areas with very high FFGs. It appears increasingly
    likely that the storms impacting that area, if they train, will be
    south of the border, but some potential remains into McAllen and
    Brownsville for training storms, so the Marginal was left in place
    for those urban centers.

    In coordination with ABQ/Albuquerque WFO, a Marginal was introduced
    for the Sacramento Mountains for the potential for nearly
    stationary storms tied to the terrain impacting old burn scar areas
    near Ruidoso, NM.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The focus for excessive rainfall will shift eastward as a closed
    mid-level circulation center takes shape over the nation's mid-
    section. The mid- and upper-level flow backs with time from the
    Gulf coast northward across parts of the Tennessee and Ohio
    Valleys. Initially...this allows deeper moisture to stream
    northward. But it also results in the surface/low level front to
    move eastward more quickly later in the period...with generally a
    low-end risk of flooding from the Gulf coast northward. The 02/00Z
    suite of numerical guidance hint that there could be some 1 inch to
    perhaps 2 inch amounts where frontogenetic forcing aligns
    favorably in between the Gulf and the Ohio Valley...but the signal
    for excessive rainfall showed little run to run / model to model
    consistency.

    There is also a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall over far
    southern portion of Texas...where the southern end of the cold has
    stalled its southward progression and return flow of Gulf moisture
    has begun. Several of the High Res ensemble highlight this area
    with QPF in the upper percentiles although the consensus is less
    than unanimous in amounts or placement. With soundings showing
    warm cloud processes through a deep layer and the CAPE profile is
    tall and skinny...introduced a Marginal risk here.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES ...

    ...20Z Update...

    The Marginal Risk across the East Coast was expanded greatly to
    include much of the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and coastal Carolinas,
    with the other Marginal expanded well west to include portions of
    southwest Colorado, southern Utah, and eastern Nevada with this
    update.

    The Marginal across the east will be for continue training showers
    and storms into New England, with a maximum of rainfall likely near
    the Catskills and Poconos of NY and PA, respectively. Rates should
    remain low enough with some breaks in the rain that amounts remain
    within Marginal thresholds, but should the Day 2/Saturday rainfall
    overperform in this area or if the forecast rain comes up for
    Sunday, then a targeted Slight risk may be needed. Occasional
    storms with MUCAPE instability values between 500 and 1,000 J/kg
    are more likely to impact more of the I-95 corridor from Raleigh,
    NC through NYC. Drought conditions are very likely to temper all
    but the most persistent rains, but given the sensitivities in the
    urban corridor, the Marginal was expanded to account for potential
    training storms.

    The Marginal Risk out west was expanded with a deep but slow moving
    upper level low and trough moving across the 4-corners region,
    drawing some Gulf moisture well northwest and into the area, where
    terrain will cause localized upslope. Rocky terrain will also favor
    rapid development of flash flooding in the local areas where the
    rain is most persistent. The highest elevations will see mostly
    snow from this event, but most of the area should see rain, which
    is the rationale for the expansion of the Marginal. The San Juans
    will have some of the heaviest precipitation, which should lower
    snow levels locally enough to carve that area out of the Marginal
    with this update.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a broad upper trough continues to make
    its way eastward on Day 3. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches
    will be eventually be shunted off-shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are possible with spaghetti plots of
    2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours mainly being produced by models
    with the ARW core...but enough members from the NMM core and from
    the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!81qhY1qFl3jBHGcMIsZVaTePDhnpfLJ1QJevNXchGRYF= cE9wf8Lz-4_tamSGOqTVUVK8YlWGJ0NqaqezhI_fv9xoAvQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!81qhY1qFl3jBHGcMIsZVaTePDhnpfLJ1QJevNXchGRYF= cE9wf8Lz-4_tamSGOqTVUVK8YlWGJ0NqaqezhI_fPaP7DdI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!81qhY1qFl3jBHGcMIsZVaTePDhnpfLJ1QJevNXchGRYF= cE9wf8Lz-4_tamSGOqTVUVK8YlWGJ0NqaqezhI_fhomXhaA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat May 3 08:29:40 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 030828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 AM EDT Sat May 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE GULF
    COAST REGION INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST AND THE SACRAMENTO=20
    MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO

    A slow moving mid- and upper-level circulation is expected to form
    later today within a broader mid/upper level trough digging
    eastward. With low level flow drawing deeper moisture northward
    ahead of the system...thunderstorms that form along and immediately
    east of a surface cold front will be moving into an environment of
    supporting locally heavy rainfall rates and amounts over portions
    of the Ohio Valley southward towards the Gulf coast today and from
    portions of southern New England southward towards the Carolinas
    and areas in and near the southern Appalachians where deeper
    moisture resides this afternoon and evening, The 03/00Z suite of=20
    numerical guidance hint that there could be some 1 inch to perhaps=20
    2 inch amounts where frontogenetic forcing aligns favorably in=20
    between the Gulf and the Ohio Valley...but the signal for excessive
    rainfall appeared tempered by the progressive nature of the=20
    forcing and confidence was limited by the lack of run to run /=20
    model to model consistency with placement of highest model QPF.

    Maintained the previously issued Marginal Risk area in New Mexico
    given the antecedent conditions after the rain on Friday and the
    sensitivity over/near burn scars in the southeast portion of the
    state.


    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND ADJACENT HIGH PLAINS...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a slow moving closed low embedded=20
    within a broader upper trough continues to make its way eastward. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually be shunted off-=20
    shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are=20
    possible with spaghetti plots of 2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours
    mainly being produced by models with the ARW core...but enough=20
    members from the NMM core and from the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.
    The western boundary of the Marginal was trimmed compared with the
    previous outlook given the models being more progressive with the
    surface cold front and the push of drier air being brought in
    behind the front.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE HIGH PLAINS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    Shortwave energy rotating around the periphery of an upper low
    making its way over the Southwest US will trigger late day
    thunderstorms on Monday over parts of West Texas that grow upscale
    in terms of both coverage and rainfall amounts through much of
    Monday night/early Tuesday morning. A feed of low level moisture
    being forced upslope ahead of the approaching shortwave will help
    fuel the potential for downpours and locally heavy rainfall amounts
    leading to the potential of flash flooding. QPF from the
    operational models have maximum amounts of rainfall in the 2.5 to
    3.8 inches...which tended to be supported by the SREF and GEFS
    spaghetti plots and by machine learning first guess EROs. Felt a
    Slight Risk area covers the potential for time being.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5GiQRjXI-zhvsbjJchraKR0RNACTqP7KZrpWzR27utmb= ABVDhrd0SaEAadKRLbTXGH6wSiRM-HfKGfMqAms0NqJqglY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5GiQRjXI-zhvsbjJchraKR0RNACTqP7KZrpWzR27utmb= ABVDhrd0SaEAadKRLbTXGH6wSiRM-HfKGfMqAms0c6DUwbo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!5GiQRjXI-zhvsbjJchraKR0RNACTqP7KZrpWzR27utmb= ABVDhrd0SaEAadKRLbTXGH6wSiRM-HfKGfMqAms0OD249FA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 031559
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1159 AM EDT Sat May 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN U.S. AND THE SACRAMENTO MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Update...=20
    An upper-level low is forming over the mid-Mississippi region and=20
    becomes cutoff over Kentucky tonight as the jet focuses over=20
    eastern Canada. Low level flow is drawing Gulf moisture through and
    ahead of the system from the Gulf Coast up through the Eastern=20
    Seaboard. Several focus areas for thunderstorms are expected=20
    through tonight in the broad area which covered by a contiguous=20
    Marginal Risk.=20

    Ohio Valley to Gulf Coast...=20
    Locally heavy activity has developed ahead of a surface low over=20
    western TN with scattered storms south ahead of the advancing cold=20
    front through MS and north along a stalled boundary that extends to
    the upper Ohio Valley. This activity may pivot over eastern=20
    KY/southern OH through the middle afternoon while activity over AL=20
    to the Gulf Coast should be more progressive.=20

    Carolinas, Central Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic...=20
    Lee trough development over the Piedmont in the Carolinas later=20
    this afternoon will allow potentially training activity in deep=20
    SSWly flow there well into the evening, so the Marginal Risk was=20
    expanded east a bit over SC/NC. This activity lifts north through
    the central Appalachians into this evening with localized flash
    flood threats. Later tonight the activity shifts east with some
    training potential, so the Marginal was maintained east through the Baltimore/Washington urban centers.


    Northeast...
    The northern end of the moisture plume converges on a frontal zone
    over Upstate NY and central New England through this afternoon=20
    bringing potential for excessive rain despite strong deep layer=20
    flow. The Marginal Risk was expanded north into central New=20
    England. A second round of development is expected farther south=20
    this evening in the Hudson Valley and southern New England which=20
    was already covered by a Marginal.=20


    New Mexico...=20
    Afternoon convection over the Sacramento Mtns brings a threat for=20
    runoff issues from burn scars into this evening, so the Marginal=20
    Risk is maintained.


    Jackson


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND ADJACENT HIGH PLAINS...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a slow moving closed low embedded
    within a broader upper trough continues to make its way eastward. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually be shunted off-
    shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are
    possible with spaghetti plots of 2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours
    mainly being produced by models with the ARW core...but enough
    members from the NMM core and from the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.
    The western boundary of the Marginal was trimmed compared with the
    previous outlook given the models being more progressive with the
    surface cold front and the push of drier air being brought in
    behind the front.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE HIGH PLAINS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    Shortwave energy rotating around the periphery of an upper low
    making its way over the Southwest US will trigger late day
    thunderstorms on Monday over parts of West Texas that grow upscale
    in terms of both coverage and rainfall amounts through much of
    Monday night/early Tuesday morning. A feed of low level moisture
    being forced upslope ahead of the approaching shortwave will help
    fuel the potential for downpours and locally heavy rainfall amounts
    leading to the potential of flash flooding. QPF from the
    operational models have maximum amounts of rainfall in the 2.5 to
    3.8 inches...which tended to be supported by the SREF and GEFS
    spaghetti plots and by machine learning first guess EROs. Felt a
    Slight Risk area covers the potential for time being.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p0s8cSHTpSumRt7ojK4BgBep2S_TTZtjWBnuprwC1FC= p8nEN7RAnMHrVSpT9rD1r1O7Fgb7ruOuDKIIuSyorAdLLsk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p0s8cSHTpSumRt7ojK4BgBep2S_TTZtjWBnuprwC1FC= p8nEN7RAnMHrVSpT9rD1r1O7Fgb7ruOuDKIIuSyom7ZqxxU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!4p0s8cSHTpSumRt7ojK4BgBep2S_TTZtjWBnuprwC1FC= p8nEN7RAnMHrVSpT9rD1r1O7Fgb7ruOuDKIIuSyoqwom3do$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 031654=20
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1254 PM EDT Sat May 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN U.S. AND THE SACRAMENTO MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Update...
    An upper-level low is forming over the mid-Mississippi region and
    becomes cutoff over Kentucky tonight as the jet focuses over
    eastern Canada. Low level flow is drawing Gulf moisture through and
    ahead of the system from the Gulf Coast up through the Eastern
    Seaboard. Several focus areas for thunderstorms are expected
    through tonight in the broad area which covered by a contiguous
    Marginal Risk.

    Ohio Valley to Gulf Coast...
    Locally heavy activity has developed ahead of a surface low over
    western TN with scattered storms south ahead of the advancing cold
    front through MS and north along a stalled boundary that extends to
    the upper Ohio Valley. This activity may pivot over eastern
    KY/southern OH through the middle afternoon while activity over AL
    to the Gulf Coast should be more progressive.

    Carolinas, Central Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic...
    Lee trough development over the Piedmont in the Carolinas later
    this afternoon will allow potentially training activity in deep
    SSWly flow there well into the evening, so the Marginal Risk was
    expanded east a bit over SC/NC. This activity lifts north through
    the central Appalachians into this evening with localized flash
    flood threats. Later tonight the activity shifts east with some
    training potential, so the Marginal was maintained east through the Baltimore/Washington urban centers.


    Northeast...
    The northern end of the moisture plume converges on a frontal zone
    over Upstate NY and central New England through this afternoon
    bringing potential for excessive rain despite strong deep layer
    flow. The Marginal Risk was expanded north into central New
    England. A second round of development is expected farther south
    this evening in the Hudson Valley and southern New England which
    was already covered by a Marginal.


    New Mexico...
    Afternoon convection over the Sacramento Mtns brings a threat for
    runoff issues from burn scars into this evening, so the Marginal
    Risk is maintained.


    Jackson

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND ADJACENT HIGH PLAINS...

    The risk of excessive rainfall persists across parts of the Mid-
    Atlantic and Southeast US as a slow moving closed low embedded
    within a broader upper trough continues to make its way eastward. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually be shunted off-
    shore late in the period. Until then...isolated downpours are
    possible with spaghetti plots of 2 and 3-inches of rain in 24 hours
    mainly being produced by models with the ARW core...but enough
    members from the NMM core and from the GEFS to warrant a Marginal.
    The western boundary of the Marginal was trimmed compared with the
    previous outlook given the models being more progressive with the
    surface cold front and the push of drier air being brought in
    behind the front.

    There is also a Marginal Risk area over parts of New Mexico again
    as moisture continue to spread northward and westward from the
    Gulf. After 00Z...the flow aloft between the westerly subtropical
    jet and a jet streak and low- and mid-levels become increasingly
    diffluent with height falls beginning ahead of an approaching
    closed low from the west. This...along with moisture and a low
    level boundary already in place...should support late day and
    evening storms that may produce locally heavy rainfall rates.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE HIGH PLAINS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    Shortwave energy rotating around the periphery of an upper low
    making its way over the Southwest US will trigger late day
    thunderstorms on Monday over parts of West Texas that grow upscale
    in terms of both coverage and rainfall amounts through much of
    Monday night/early Tuesday morning. A feed of low level moisture
    being forced upslope ahead of the approaching shortwave will help
    fuel the potential for downpours and locally heavy rainfall amounts
    leading to the potential of flash flooding. QPF from the
    operational models have maximum amounts of rainfall in the 2.5 to
    3.8 inches...which tended to be supported by the SREF and GEFS
    spaghetti plots and by machine learning first guess EROs. Felt a
    Slight Risk area covers the potential for time being.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7j46e3m58JyDO_IfGcJlZTvfZblplHDUgzA6Phn4uLy8= qJLnw0DDDQf8bOP8hVAT3-7CgzocNhN3er5yRguCj96qOLI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7j46e3m58JyDO_IfGcJlZTvfZblplHDUgzA6Phn4uLy8= qJLnw0DDDQf8bOP8hVAT3-7CgzocNhN3er5yRguCuWHgPL4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7j46e3m58JyDO_IfGcJlZTvfZblplHDUgzA6Phn4uLy8= qJLnw0DDDQf8bOP8hVAT3-7CgzocNhN3er5yRguCXUTHdTw$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat May 3 20:29:43 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 032029
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    429 PM EDT Sat May 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN U.S. AND THE SACRAMENTO MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Update...
    An upper-level low is forming over the mid-Mississippi region and
    becomes cutoff over Kentucky tonight as the jet focuses over
    eastern Canada. Low level flow is drawing Gulf moisture through and
    ahead of the system from the Gulf Coast up through the Eastern
    Seaboard. Several focus areas for thunderstorms are expected
    through tonight in the broad area which covered by a contiguous
    Marginal Risk.

    Ohio Valley to Gulf Coast...
    Locally heavy activity has developed ahead of a surface low over
    western TN with scattered storms south ahead of the advancing cold
    front through MS and north along a stalled boundary that extends to
    the upper Ohio Valley. This activity may pivot over eastern
    KY/southern OH through the middle afternoon while activity over AL
    to the Gulf Coast should be more progressive.

    Carolinas, Central Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic...
    Lee trough development over the Piedmont in the Carolinas later
    this afternoon will allow potentially training activity in deep
    SSWly flow there well into the evening, so the Marginal Risk was
    expanded east a bit over SC/NC. This activity lifts north through
    the central Appalachians into this evening with localized flash
    flood threats. Later tonight the activity shifts east with some
    training potential, so the Marginal was maintained east through the Baltimore/Washington urban centers.


    Northeast...
    The northern end of the moisture plume converges on a frontal zone
    over Upstate NY and central New England through this afternoon
    bringing potential for excessive rain despite strong deep layer
    flow. The Marginal Risk was expanded north into central New
    England. A second round of development is expected farther south
    this evening in the Hudson Valley and southern New England which
    was already covered by a Marginal.


    New Mexico...
    Afternoon convection over the Sacramento Mtns brings a threat for
    runoff issues from burn scars into this evening, so the Marginal
    Risk is maintained.


    Jackson

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE=20
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND ADJACENT HIGH=20
    PLAINS...

    21Z Update...


    New Mexico...
    A Slight Risk has been raised for portions of eastern NM based on a
    notable increase in QPF from the 12Z guidance consensus. SWly flow
    over TX brings robust Gulf moisture up through the southern Rockies
    and adjacent High Plains as a closed low develops and stalls
    over the Sonoran Desert. Heavy rain develops in the diurnal
    activity that then persists over the southern High Plains well into
    Sunday night as the low stalls. The PW anomaly reaches 2 sigma over
    this area by 00Z Monday. The 12Z HREF mean suggests some repeating
    threats for 1"/hr rates through this Slight area with potential for
    2-3" over much of the area. The Marginal risk was expanded to the=20
    lower flanks of the San Juans based on updated QPF and FFG.

    Great Basin...
    Sunday is the second day for the Great Basin under the upper=20
    trough. With PW anomalies of 2-3 sigma over normal with instability
    and fairly light deep layer flow should allow some repeating
    activity over Nevada and the Mojave Desert where a Marginal Risk is
    raised.

    Midwest to Northeast...
    The slow moving closed low embedded within a broader upper trough=20
    continues to make its way eastward Sunday. Deepest moisture of=20
    1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually be shunted off the Mid-
    Atlantic coast Sunday afternoon, but still stream in over NY back
    through northern Ohio. The Marginal Risk is maintained with an
    expansion over the Detroit metro given 12Z QPF consensus along with
    lower FFG.


    Jackson

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS WEST
    TEXAS...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    The upper low drifts east over southern AZ Monday, causing a minor
    shift east in downstream rainfall compared to Sunday. Confidence=20
    remains in a focused area for repeating heavy rain south from the=20
    TX Panhandle to the NM border where a Slight Risk remains (it was=20
    expanded a bit west through the NM border). A bit of a lull in QPF=20
    is expected Monday morning, but diurnal increases expected in the=20
    afternoon that then persist into or through the night. The PW
    anomaly is forecast to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the 1.25"
    PW line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF consensus is for 2-4"
    over a sizable area just south of the TX Panhandle.


    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    The broadening upper low over AZ aids instability over the Mojave
    Desert through northern AZ and southern/central UT where a Marginal
    Risk is raised for Monday. Continued light deep layer flow and PW=20
    anomalies of 2-3 sigma should allow slow moving, heavy=20
    thunderstorms over this area which includes the Slot Canyons of=20
    southern UT.


    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low meanders to the Upper OH Valley Monday night. Continued
    onshore flow brings the threat for repeating locally heavy rain
    over the northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England which will
    have seen some heavy rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is
    maintained.


    Jackson


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!83gotFJ6QqLkVIynu_UiLj2u41RMP9nFtFBdgESzokMF= aDwcfJce0OXH9_Hh_3_7KuRIQSQYWIetoOL0FvRqme8E4zM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!83gotFJ6QqLkVIynu_UiLj2u41RMP9nFtFBdgESzokMF= aDwcfJce0OXH9_Hh_3_7KuRIQSQYWIetoOL0FvRqzf2hGLk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!83gotFJ6QqLkVIynu_UiLj2u41RMP9nFtFBdgESzokMF= aDwcfJce0OXH9_Hh_3_7KuRIQSQYWIetoOL0FvRqc2uWAzY$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 032037
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    437 PM EDT Sat May 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat May 03 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    EASTERN U.S. AND THE SACRAMENTO MOUNTAINS OF NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Update...
    An upper-level low is forming over the mid-Mississippi region and
    becomes cutoff over Kentucky tonight as the jet focuses over
    eastern Canada. Low level flow is drawing Gulf moisture through and
    ahead of the system from the Gulf Coast up through the Eastern
    Seaboard. Several focus areas for thunderstorms are expected
    through tonight in the broad area which covered by a contiguous
    Marginal Risk.

    Ohio Valley to Gulf Coast...
    Locally heavy activity has developed ahead of a surface low over
    western TN with scattered storms south ahead of the advancing cold
    front through MS and north along a stalled boundary that extends to
    the upper Ohio Valley. This activity may pivot over eastern
    KY/southern OH through the middle afternoon while activity over AL
    to the Gulf Coast should be more progressive.

    Carolinas, Central Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic...
    Lee trough development over the Piedmont in the Carolinas later
    this afternoon will allow potentially training activity in deep
    SSWly flow there well into the evening, so the Marginal Risk was
    expanded east a bit over SC/NC. This activity lifts north through
    the central Appalachians into this evening with localized flash
    flood threats. Later tonight the activity shifts east with some
    training potential, so the Marginal was maintained east through the Baltimore/Washington urban centers.


    Northeast...
    The northern end of the moisture plume converges on a frontal zone
    over Upstate NY and central New England through this afternoon
    bringing potential for excessive rain despite strong deep layer
    flow. The Marginal Risk was expanded north into central New
    England. A second round of development is expected farther south
    this evening in the Hudson Valley and southern New England which
    was already covered by a Marginal.


    New Mexico...
    Afternoon convection over the Sacramento Mtns brings a threat for
    runoff issues from burn scars into this evening, so the Marginal
    Risk is maintained.


    Jackson

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND ADJACENT HIGH
    PLAINS...

    21Z Update...


    New Mexico...
    A Slight Risk has been raised for portions of eastern NM based on a
    notable increase in QPF from the 12Z guidance consensus. SWly flow
    over TX brings robust Gulf moisture up through the southern Rockies
    and adjacent High Plains as a closed low develops and stalls
    over the Sonoran Desert. Heavy rain develops in the diurnal
    activity that then persists over the southern High Plains well into
    Sunday night as the low stalls. The PW anomaly reaches 2 sigma over
    this area by 00Z Monday. The 12Z HREF mean suggests some repeating
    threats for 1"/hr rates through this Slight area with potential for
    2-3" over much of the area. The Marginal risk was expanded to the
    lower flanks of the San Juans based on updated QPF and FFG.

    Great Basin...
    Sunday is the second day for the Great Basin under the upper
    trough. With PW anomalies of 2-3 sigma over normal with instability
    and fairly light deep layer flow should allow some repeating
    activity over Nevada and the Mojave Desert where a Marginal Risk is
    raised.

    Midwest to Northeast...
    The slow moving closed low embedded within a broader upper trough
    continues to make its way eastward Sunday. Deepest moisture of
    1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually be shunted off the Mid-
    Atlantic coast Sunday afternoon, but still stream in over NY back
    through northern Ohio. The Marginal Risk is maintained with an
    expansion over the Detroit metro given 12Z QPF consensus along with
    lower FFG.


    Jackson

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF WEST
    TEXAS...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    The upper low drifts east over southern AZ Monday, causing a minor
    shift east in downstream rainfall compared to Sunday. Confidence
    remains in a focused area for repeating heavy rain south from the
    TX Panhandle to the NM border where a Slight Risk remains (it was
    expanded a bit west through the NM border). A bit of a lull in QPF
    is expected Monday morning, but diurnal increases expected in the
    afternoon that then persist into or through the night. The PW
    anomaly is forecast to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the 1.25"
    PW line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF consensus is for 2-4"
    over a sizable area just south of the TX Panhandle.


    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    The broadening upper low over AZ aids instability over the Mojave
    Desert through northern AZ and southern/central UT where a Marginal
    Risk is raised for Monday. Continued light deep layer flow and PW
    anomalies of 2-3 sigma should allow slow moving, heavy
    thunderstorms over this area which includes the Slot Canyons of
    southern UT.


    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low meanders to the Upper OH Valley Monday night. Continued
    onshore flow brings the threat for repeating locally heavy rain
    over the northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England which will
    have seen some heavy rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is
    maintained.


    Jackson


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5_IjFrWArYNhKbX3d93uvm_ogG1W_rlPbutYb2tCOlu= bLJ34v2McXYld19HY3hd9DHe8vfDxoLlDJDqxymVInWs2FU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5_IjFrWArYNhKbX3d93uvm_ogG1W_rlPbutYb2tCOlu= bLJ34v2McXYld19HY3hd9DHe8vfDxoLlDJDqxymVEdCWK2M$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_5_IjFrWArYNhKbX3d93uvm_ogG1W_rlPbutYb2tCOlu= bLJ34v2McXYld19HY3hd9DHe8vfDxoLlDJDqxymV3TXyul0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 040048
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    848 PM EDT Sat May 3 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Sun May 04 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE EASTERN U.S. ...

    ...01Z Update...

    The Marginal Risk area for the Sacramento Mountains of New Mexico
    was removed as the shower activity over the area wanes with sunset
    approaching.

    The Marginal for the eastern U.S. was trimmed from the west behind
    the eastward moving convection over the Southeast, as well as from
    the lower Ohio Valley, where the rain in Indiana, Illinois, and
    Missouri has been mostly stratiform all day and hasn't posed a
    flash flooding threat.

    The Marginal in the Northeast was expanded eastward to include
    Philadelphia, NYC, Long Island, and Boston. Potent convection
    moving northeast in these areas may pose a localized flash flooding
    threat in any of those urban centers. It as also expanded a couple
    rows of counties east in the Carolinas ahead of the slow moving
    line of storms there. Those storms should wane with nightfall as
    they move into eastern North Carolina.=20

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE
    EASTERN UNITED STATES AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND ADJACENT HIGH
    PLAINS...

    21Z Update...


    New Mexico...
    A Slight Risk has been raised for portions of eastern NM based on a
    notable increase in QPF from the 12Z guidance consensus. SWly flow
    over TX brings robust Gulf moisture up through the southern Rockies
    and adjacent High Plains as a closed low develops and stalls
    over the Sonoran Desert. Heavy rain develops in the diurnal
    activity that then persists over the southern High Plains well into
    Sunday night as the low stalls. The PW anomaly reaches 2 sigma over
    this area by 00Z Monday. The 12Z HREF mean suggests some repeating
    threats for 1"/hr rates through this Slight area with potential for
    2-3" over much of the area. The Marginal risk was expanded to the
    lower flanks of the San Juans based on updated QPF and FFG.

    Great Basin...
    Sunday is the second day for the Great Basin under the upper
    trough. With PW anomalies of 2-3 sigma over normal with instability
    and fairly light deep layer flow should allow some repeating
    activity over Nevada and the Mojave Desert where a Marginal Risk is
    raised.

    Midwest to Northeast...
    The slow moving closed low embedded within a broader upper trough
    continues to make its way eastward Sunday. Deepest moisture of
    1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually be shunted off the Mid-
    Atlantic coast Sunday afternoon, but still stream in over NY back
    through northern Ohio. The Marginal Risk is maintained with an
    expansion over the Detroit metro given 12Z QPF consensus along with
    lower FFG.


    Jackson

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF WEST
    TEXAS...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    The upper low drifts east over southern AZ Monday, causing a minor
    shift east in downstream rainfall compared to Sunday. Confidence
    remains in a focused area for repeating heavy rain south from the
    TX Panhandle to the NM border where a Slight Risk remains (it was
    expanded a bit west through the NM border). A bit of a lull in QPF
    is expected Monday morning, but diurnal increases expected in the
    afternoon that then persist into or through the night. The PW
    anomaly is forecast to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the 1.25"
    PW line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF consensus is for 2-4"
    over a sizable area just south of the TX Panhandle.


    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    The broadening upper low over AZ aids instability over the Mojave
    Desert through northern AZ and southern/central UT where a Marginal
    Risk is raised for Monday. Continued light deep layer flow and PW
    anomalies of 2-3 sigma should allow slow moving, heavy
    thunderstorms over this area which includes the Slot Canyons of
    southern UT.


    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low meanders to the Upper OH Valley Monday night. Continued
    onshore flow brings the threat for repeating locally heavy rain
    over the northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England which will
    have seen some heavy rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is
    maintained.


    Jackson


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6WKrsfExSs7Do3eTFPK8wplQVm5kZE2Z9UkjvrtXGjHj= DWwBKuhrkUor-FKJiRnVM_estwK5Iwkd1Y8WNJnVVE8X0vY$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6WKrsfExSs7Do3eTFPK8wplQVm5kZE2Z9UkjvrtXGjHj= DWwBKuhrkUor-FKJiRnVM_estwK5Iwkd1Y8WNJnV_oHr87Y$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6WKrsfExSs7Do3eTFPK8wplQVm5kZE2Z9UkjvrtXGjHj= DWwBKuhrkUor-FKJiRnVM_estwK5Iwkd1Y8WNJnV_kvDza8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun May 4 08:31:16 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 040831
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    431 AM EDT Sun May 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE HIGH PLAINS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES...

    New Mexico...
    There is a slight risk of excessive rainfall over portions of
    eastern New Mexico as south to southeasterly flow draws moisture
    into the region as height falls begin in response to shortwave
    energy approaches. The 04/00Z suite of numerical guidance develops
    heavy rainfall developing in the diurnal activity that then=20
    persists over the southern High Plains well into late tonight/early
    Monday morning. Precipitable water anomaly values reaches 2 sigma=20
    over this area by 00Z Monday..with the 04/00Z HREF mean suggests=20
    some repeating threats for 1"/hr rates across the Slight area with=20
    potential for 2-3" over much of the area. The eastern portion of=20
    the Marginal risk area was largely left unchanged...but the western
    portion of the area was trimmed to minimize overlap with heavy=20
    snow areas (especially over the San Juan mountains).

    Great Basin...
    While the probability of excessive rainfall is likely non-zero
    given the showery nature of precipitation given the upper trough=20
    and cold mid- level temperatures aloft...the amount of rain=20
    shouldn't be a problem unless it all falls in under an hour.
    Individual thunderstorms may result in briefly heavy
    rates...but thinking is that the thunderstorms will be embedded=20
    within a broader field of showers circulating around the main upper
    low. This should help mitigate the overall threat of flooding.

    Midwest to Northeast...
    The slow moving closed low embedded within a broader upper trough
    continues to make its way eastward across the Ohio Valley today and
    tonight. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually
    be shunted off the Mid- Atlantic coast today but still stream in=20
    over New York back and then drawn back through northern Ohio. The=20
    Marginal Risk is maintained with only nudges to the
    western/northern periphery of the Marginal risk area based on the
    latest QPF.=20

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    A closed upper low over the Desert Southwest will continue to
    meander eastward on Monday. Confidence remains in a focused area=20
    for repeating heavy rainfall south from the TX Panhandle to the NM
    border where a Slight Risk remains without many changes...with main
    activity occurring once again around the time of maximum daytime
    heating and then persisting into or through the night. The suite=20
    of 04/00Z numerical guidance still shows the magnitude of=20
    precipitable water values to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the
    1.25" precipitable water line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF=20
    consensus is for 2-4" over a sizable area just south of the TX=20 Panhandle...with locally higher amounts embedded in the broader QPF
    area.

    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    Numerous showers with embedded daytime and evening thunderstorms is
    still expected as upper low continues to meander over Arizona as=20
    it begins to fill. Moisture is still anomalous for this time of=20
    year...being some 2 to 3 standardized anomalies above climatology=20
    for early May...but concern would be greater for excessive rainfall
    if the actual values of precipitable water values were greater and
    intense rainfall rates would be sustained for a longer duration.=20
    As a result...the risk of excessive rainfall appears to be non-zero
    but not enough to warrant a Marginal risk area based on=20
    coordination with local offices.

    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low will continue to meanders across portions of the Upper=20
    OH Valley through Monday night. Continued onshore flow brings the=20
    threat for repeating locally heavy rain over the northern Mid-=20
    Atlantic into southern New England which will have seen some heavy=20
    rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is maintained.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION...

    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing intense rainfall
    rates and heavy/excessive rainfall will become more numerous=20=20
    on Tuesday as height falls make their way out across Texas and as
    the parent upper low ejects out over the Southern Plains. With
    increasing flow off the Gulf drawing deeper moisture on-
    shore....the convection should become increasingly efficient=20
    rainfall makers.especially over portions of Louisiana and=20
    Mississippi. There is still some differences in where models place=20
    the heaviest rainfall...with the GFS and Canadian favoring a faster
    solution while the EC/UK favoring the axis from eastern Texas into
    northern Louisiana. This forecast cycle nudged the Moderate risk=20
    area a bit eastward but not as far east as the GFS/Canadian.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6dTVjEEkBIyndyMa9Gh5Zi_Ce7BxVBqHlgPlVou7vCQS= Y9Ykfz-I1t8Lkkkl0R4tBCGHFHdwFp-6sNEj9-aOP5VZSDA$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6dTVjEEkBIyndyMa9Gh5Zi_Ce7BxVBqHlgPlVou7vCQS= Y9Ykfz-I1t8Lkkkl0R4tBCGHFHdwFp-6sNEj9-aOjeHnvSo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6dTVjEEkBIyndyMa9Gh5Zi_Ce7BxVBqHlgPlVou7vCQS= Y9Ykfz-I1t8Lkkkl0R4tBCGHFHdwFp-6sNEj9-aOX1u4wL8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun May 4 15:53:07 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 041552
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1152 AM EDT Sun May 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...New Mexico...

    The Slight Risk area across New Mexico was expanded slightly south
    in keeping with the latest guidance that areas north of Roswell
    could see more rainfall than previous forecasts, necessitating the
    southward expansion. Otherwise, the forecast is little changed in
    this area with a broad 1-2 inches of rain expected, most of which
    occurring tonight. Flooding concerns stemming from the slow
    movement of the storms, a consistent resupply of Gulf moisture from
    the southeast on 20-30 kt southeasterly winds, and nearly
    stationary forcing in the form of a cutoff low all support widely
    scattered instance of flash flooding consistent with the Slight
    Risk. Areas of terrain will be especially vulnerable due to the
    terrain focusing the rainfall into narrow valleys that can fill up
    and flooding with relatively little rainfall.

    ...Northeast...

    As the cold frontal rainfall moves off the coast over the next few
    hours, the Marginal Risk in NC,VA, and MD was trimmed from the
    south and west to follow the line of showers with embedded
    convection as it moves over the beaches of those states. Isolated
    afternoon thunderstorms will be possible given the abundance of
    moisture from today's rains across the Piedmont of NC and VA, but
    the storms should be few and far between, and therefore not pose a
    significant flash flooding threat. From about the Mason-Dixon line
    north this afternoon, increasing instability should allow for more
    widely scattered convection, as compared to areas further south.
    THese storms will be capable of producing isolated instances of=20
    flash flooding.

    The Marginal was also trimmed out of MI, IN, and western OH since=20
    the rainfall there is expected to remain the stratiform it is now,=20
    which would preclude any rainfall rates capable of causing flash=20
    flooding. Elsewhere the Marginal remains in place and largely
    unchanged.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    New Mexico...
    There is a slight risk of excessive rainfall over portions of
    eastern New Mexico as south to southeasterly flow draws moisture
    into the region as height falls begin in response to shortwave
    energy approaches. The 04/00Z suite of numerical guidance develops
    heavy rainfall developing in the diurnal activity that then
    persists over the southern High Plains well into late tonight/early
    Monday morning. Precipitable water anomaly values reaches 2 sigma
    over this area by 00Z Monday..with the 04/00Z HREF mean suggests
    some repeating threats for 1"/hr rates across the Slight area with
    potential for 2-3" over much of the area. The eastern portion of
    the Marginal risk area was largely left unchanged...but the western
    portion of the area was trimmed to minimize overlap with heavy
    snow areas (especially over the San Juan mountains).

    Great Basin...
    While the probability of excessive rainfall is likely non-zero
    given the showery nature of precipitation given the upper trough
    and cold mid- level temperatures aloft...the amount of rain
    shouldn't be a problem unless it all falls in under an hour.
    Individual thunderstorms may result in briefly heavy
    rates...but thinking is that the thunderstorms will be embedded
    within a broader field of showers circulating around the main upper
    low. This should help mitigate the overall threat of flooding.

    Midwest to Northeast...
    The slow moving closed low embedded within a broader upper trough
    continues to make its way eastward across the Ohio Valley today and
    tonight. Deepest moisture of 1.25 to 1.5 inches will be eventually
    be shunted off the Mid- Atlantic coast today but still stream in
    over New York back and then drawn back through northern Ohio. The
    Marginal Risk is maintained with only nudges to the
    western/northern periphery of the Marginal risk area based on the
    latest QPF.

    Bann

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    A closed upper low over the Desert Southwest will continue to
    meander eastward on Monday. Confidence remains in a focused area
    for repeating heavy rainfall south from the TX Panhandle to the NM
    border where a Slight Risk remains without many changes...with main
    activity occurring once again around the time of maximum daytime
    heating and then persisting into or through the night. The suite
    of 04/00Z numerical guidance still shows the magnitude of
    precipitable water values to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the
    1.25" precipitable water line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF
    consensus is for 2-4" over a sizable area just south of the TX
    Panhandle...with locally higher amounts embedded in the broader QPF
    area.

    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    Numerous showers with embedded daytime and evening thunderstorms is
    still expected as upper low continues to meander over Arizona as
    it begins to fill. Moisture is still anomalous for this time of
    year...being some 2 to 3 standardized anomalies above climatology
    for early May...but concern would be greater for excessive rainfall
    if the actual values of precipitable water values were greater and
    intense rainfall rates would be sustained for a longer duration.
    As a result...the risk of excessive rainfall appears to be non-zero
    but not enough to warrant a Marginal risk area based on
    coordination with local offices.

    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low will continue to meanders across portions of the Upper
    OH Valley through Monday night. Continued onshore flow brings the
    threat for repeating locally heavy rain over the northern Mid-
    Atlantic into southern New England which will have seen some heavy
    rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is maintained.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION...

    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing intense rainfall
    rates and heavy/excessive rainfall will become more numerous
    on Tuesday as height falls make their way out across Texas and as
    the parent upper low ejects out over the Southern Plains. With
    increasing flow off the Gulf drawing deeper moisture on-
    shore....the convection should become increasingly efficient
    rainfall makers.especially over portions of Louisiana and
    Mississippi. There is still some differences in where models place
    the heaviest rainfall...with the GFS and Canadian favoring a faster
    solution while the EC/UK favoring the axis from eastern Texas into
    northern Louisiana. This forecast cycle nudged the Moderate risk
    area a bit eastward but not as far east as the GFS/Canadian.

    Bann


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    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6jJqAaEN23e-9vRyMh25ExJDXVrsEvAZj8EIo1FJJ9C0= hlLHIFyi5FggjqPUzm-vH4h-jAqUNhZkyhOi2C_yQrs2kUc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6jJqAaEN23e-9vRyMh25ExJDXVrsEvAZj8EIo1FJJ9C0= hlLHIFyi5FggjqPUzm-vH4h-jAqUNhZkyhOi2C_yrJbbAfs$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 042004
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    404 PM EDT Sun May 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 20Z Sun May 04 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...20Z Special Update...

    Marginal Risk areas have been added to portions of the Southwest as
    well as for southern Florida. See MPDs 218 at wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/metwatch/metwatch_mpd_multi.php?md=3D0218&yr=3D2025
    for the Southwest and MPD 219 at wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/metwatch/metwatch_mpd_multi.php?md=3D0219&yr=3D2025
    for south Florida for more details.

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Southern High Plains...

    The Slight Risk area was expanded northwestward to include more of
    the Texas Panhandle and far eastern New Mexico with this update and
    in coordination with ABQ/Albuquerque, NM and AMA/Amarillo, TX
    forecast offices. Showers and thunderstorms from the overnight
    period will likely be ongoing along the NM/TX border at the start
    of the period Monday morning, with periodic flareups of additional
    convection expected throughout the day in this same area. Following
    occasional daytime convection, a new MCS is likely to form during
    the evening across west Texas and eastern NM and track northward
    through the night. Thus, portions of the area, likely centered
    around Lubbock/southern Texas Panhandle, will likely see multiple
    rounds of heavy rain through Monday night. Soils in this area are
    well above normal for moisture, especially for the eastern
    Panhandle closer to Oklahoma. Therefore lesser amounts of rain than
    normal will be needed to result in flash flooding.=20=20

    ...Northeast...

    The Marginal Risk across portions of the Northeast was maintained
    with few changes with this update. With coordination from
    OKX/Upton, NY; ALY/Albany, NY; BOX/Taunton, MA; and PHI/Mt. Holly,
    NJ forecast offices, a Slight Risk upgrade was considered for
    portions of the area, with numerous models forecasting a swath of
    1-2 inches of rain from NYC north and east through Long Island,
    much of Connecticut, and the lower Hudson Valley and Catskills.
    Despite that, very nominal instability and dry antecedent soils
    conditions and low river levels were determined to likely prevent
    much flash flooding outside of the most flood prone areas, so the
    Marginal was maintained. Upslope will be a contributing factor to
    locally heavier and steadier rain across Connecticut and the lower
    Hudson Valley into the Catskills, but here too flash flooding
    should be confined to only isolated areas. Should instability
    increase or total rainfall increase a targeted Slight Risk may
    still be needed with future updates.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    A closed upper low over the Desert Southwest will continue to
    meander eastward on Monday. Confidence remains in a focused area
    for repeating heavy rainfall south from the TX Panhandle to the NM
    border where a Slight Risk remains without many changes...with main
    activity occurring once again around the time of maximum daytime
    heating and then persisting into or through the night. The suite
    of 04/00Z numerical guidance still shows the magnitude of
    precipitable water values to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the
    1.25" precipitable water line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF
    consensus is for 2-4" over a sizable area just south of the TX
    Panhandle...with locally higher amounts embedded in the broader QPF
    area.

    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    Numerous showers with embedded daytime and evening thunderstorms is
    still expected as upper low continues to meander over Arizona as
    it begins to fill. Moisture is still anomalous for this time of
    year...being some 2 to 3 standardized anomalies above climatology
    for early May...but concern would be greater for excessive rainfall
    if the actual values of precipitable water values were greater and
    intense rainfall rates would be sustained for a longer duration.
    As a result...the risk of excessive rainfall appears to be non-zero
    but not enough to warrant a Marginal risk area based on
    coordination with local offices.

    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low will continue to meanders across portions of the Upper
    OH Valley through Monday night. Continued onshore flow brings the
    threat for repeating locally heavy rain over the northern Mid-
    Atlantic into southern New England which will have seen some heavy
    rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is maintained.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this
    update, in keeping with numerous pieces of guidance, ensembles, and
    means all favoring a significant thunderstorm training and heavy
    rain event across the Arklatex and into central Mississippi. The
    RRFS suggests multiple lines of storms will cross west to east
    across the Moderate Risk area, starting in the north from northeast
    Texas, along the Louisiana/Arkansas border, and then continuing
    into Mississippi. The trailing (southwestern) portion of the line
    will hang back as it is joined by additional storms over southeast
    Texas that progress eastward.

    The first line will start out at roughly a southwest to northeast
    orientation, however, into Tuesday night, the lines will get
    progressively more west-east oriented, meaning greater chance that
    repeating lines of storms will move across Louisiana. Meanwhile the
    outflow on the northern side of the complex of storms will allow
    for continued lighter rains in northern areas that were hard hit
    earlier in the evening, which will continue or worsen ongoing flash
    flooding as a result of the earlier storms. While the RRFS is far
    from a perfect solution as to who will get heavy rain and when,
    given the footprint of heavy rain in the RRFS is at least similar
    and in a roughly the same location as the heavy rain footprint in
    the global models, it appeared to offer a good first guess as to
    how the storm evolution will play out through the period.

    The Moderate Risk area remains a lower-end Moderate for now until
    there is better consensus (and likely southward shifts) in the area
    of heaviest rainfall. By then it's possible portions of the area
    may be considered in a higher-end Moderate Risk. For now...rainfall
    amounts in this area should not reach High Risk levels, since there
    is at least some southward movement for most of the storms with
    time, so no one area sees heavy rains for an extended duration.
    Further, it's possible that the training storms end up offshore of
    the Louisiana coast should there be more dramatic southward shifts,
    so the Moderate Risk was determined to be the appropriate risk
    level for flash flooding. Should there be significant increases
    with future runs, that are expected to be more concentrated, then
    it's not completely out of the question that a targeted High Risk
    may be needed with future updates.

    While the heaviest rains will be associated with the moderate Risk
    area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a good amount of
    that moisture and instability will be drawn northwestward ahead of
    a strong shortwave trough associated with the slow-moving upper
    level low over the 4 Corners region. This will extend an area of
    heavy rain from the MCS/Moderate Risk region northwest across much
    of Oklahoma and into southern Colorado. This in turn will lead to a
    shearing front, but the heavy rainfall will be moving over areas
    hard hit with prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and
    the Panhandles. Thus, the Slight Risk extends well west into
    southeastern Colorado, where upslope may play a role in producing
    locally heavy rains along the Front Range, while the higher
    elevations pick up heavy snow.

    ...Northeast...

    A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to
    pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation
    of periods of rain from the same system both today and on Monday.
    By Tuesday, however, instability into and south of New England=20
    will increase to up to 500 J/kg. While this amount of instability
    is far from impressive, it will still be enough to allow for
    convective showers and maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move
    north up the coast and into New England. Antecedent soil moisture
    conditions are likely to be significantly more favorable for the
    development of flash flooding in this region considering the rain
    expected there today through Monday. Thus, a Slight Risk upgrade is
    possible in this area assuming there are increases in the forecast
    rainfall once this period moves into the short-term and the CAMs
    can analyze the system.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing intense rainfall
    rates and heavy/excessive rainfall will become more numerous
    on Tuesday as height falls make their way out across Texas and as
    the parent upper low ejects out over the Southern Plains. With
    increasing flow off the Gulf drawing deeper moisture on-
    shore....the convection should become increasingly efficient
    rainfall makers.especially over portions of Louisiana and
    Mississippi. There is still some differences in where models place
    the heaviest rainfall...with the GFS and Canadian favoring a faster
    solution while the EC/UK favoring the axis from eastern Texas into
    northern Louisiana. This forecast cycle nudged the Moderate risk
    area a bit eastward but not as far east as the GFS/Canadian.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-EW9AHtRkqvBhglnX3TmBMdKeRmTLVaXns4Nn1w5mmb1= HSUH8n_kt78EBScZCxWzQ8LU31AabN3pgCOcmYGvE16f5G0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-EW9AHtRkqvBhglnX3TmBMdKeRmTLVaXns4Nn1w5mmb1= HSUH8n_kt78EBScZCxWzQ8LU31AabN3pgCOcmYGv1JyVYTQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-EW9AHtRkqvBhglnX3TmBMdKeRmTLVaXns4Nn1w5mmb1= HSUH8n_kt78EBScZCxWzQ8LU31AabN3pgCOcmYGvEGmtMwQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun May 4 23:46:42 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 042346
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    746 PM EDT Sun May 4 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Mon May 05 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    Eastern New Mexico...
    Heavy rainfall is expected through the evening hours near and north
    of a slowly moving warm/quasi-stationary front. Precipitable water
    values of 0.8-0.9", which is fairly saturated for that region,
    combined with 500-1500 J/kg of MU CAPE and 25-50 kts of effective
    bulk shear have been sufficient to develop organized thunderstorms.
    Hourly rain amounts up to 1.5" with local totals up to 3" are=20
    possible where cells merge, mesocyclones form, or storms backbuild.
    The 18z HREF indicates heavy rain concerns are possible well into=20
    the overnight hours, so the main adjustments were to expand the=20
    Marginal Risk eastward and shift the Slight Risk southward to=20
    account for the current instability pattern, which isn't expected=20
    to extend any farther northward with time per the 22z RAP guidance.


    Southwest...
    In the vicinity of a deep layered low, thunderstorms have shifted
    southeast with time from southeast CA and southern NV into AZ where
    they are showing some cyclonic banding due to 500-1500 J/kg MU
    CAPE, precipitable water values of 0.75" or so, and ~25 kts of
    effective bulk shear. The 18z HREF guidance suggests a very slow
    erosion of MU CAPE overnight, which should lead to continued=20
    convective potential, though it should shrink in scale with time.=20
    Hourly rain totals as high as 1.25" could lead to issues where=20
    there are burn scars and dry washes/arroyos. The Marginal Risk=20
    hoisted on the previous special issuance has been extended=20
    southeast into AZ given ongoing radar trends and the signal seen in
    the 18z HREF probabilities of 0.5"+. Local totals of 2" are=20
    possible where cells train, merge, or backbuild/stall.


    Northeast...
    A deep layered low across the Ohio Valley combined with daytime
    heating has led to convective development downwind/north of WV as
    well as other sections of the northern Mid-Atlantic and southern
    New England States. Precipitable water values up to 1", MU CAPE of
    500-1500 J/kg, and effective bulk shear of 25-45 kts have led to=20
    some convective banding across western PA with embedded=20
    mesocyclones. Given the amount of moisture available, hourly rain=20
    amounts to 1.5" and local totals to 3" are possible. Like the=20
    Southwest, instability will be slow to erode so the convective=20
    potential should slowly wane after sunset, with the guidance=20
    indicating some new development in the early morning hours=20
    downstream of where instability attempts to develop in and near the
    Washington D.C. and New York City metropolitan area, with the=20
    stronger signal near New York City. Some of the northern portion of
    the previous Marginal Risk was removed given the decline of=20
    instability across NY State and New England.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Southern High Plains...

    The Slight Risk area was expanded northwestward to include more of
    the Texas Panhandle and far eastern New Mexico with this update and
    in coordination with ABQ/Albuquerque, NM and AMA/Amarillo, TX
    forecast offices. Showers and thunderstorms from the overnight
    period will likely be ongoing along the NM/TX border at the start
    of the period Monday morning, with periodic flareups of additional
    convection expected throughout the day in this same area. Following
    occasional daytime convection, a new MCS is likely to form during
    the evening across west Texas and eastern NM and track northward
    through the night. Thus, portions of the area, likely centered
    around Lubbock/southern Texas Panhandle, will likely see multiple
    rounds of heavy rain through Monday night. Soils in this area are
    well above normal for moisture, especially for the eastern
    Panhandle closer to Oklahoma. Therefore lesser amounts of rain than
    normal will be needed to result in flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    The Marginal Risk across portions of the Northeast was maintained
    with few changes with this update. With coordination from
    OKX/Upton, NY; ALY/Albany, NY; BOX/Taunton, MA; and PHI/Mt. Holly,
    NJ forecast offices, a Slight Risk upgrade was considered for
    portions of the area, with numerous models forecasting a swath of
    1-2 inches of rain from NYC north and east through Long Island,
    much of Connecticut, and the lower Hudson Valley and Catskills.
    Despite that, very nominal instability and dry antecedent soils
    conditions and low river levels were determined to likely prevent
    much flash flooding outside of the most flood prone areas, so the
    Marginal was maintained. Upslope will be a contributing factor to
    locally heavier and steadier rain across Connecticut and the lower
    Hudson Valley into the Catskills, but here too flash flooding
    should be confined to only isolated areas. Should instability
    increase or total rainfall increase a targeted Slight Risk may
    still be needed with future updates.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Texas into New Mexico...
    A closed upper low over the Desert Southwest will continue to
    meander eastward on Monday. Confidence remains in a focused area
    for repeating heavy rainfall south from the TX Panhandle to the NM
    border where a Slight Risk remains without many changes...with main
    activity occurring once again around the time of maximum daytime
    heating and then persisting into or through the night. The suite
    of 04/00Z numerical guidance still shows the magnitude of
    precipitable water values to exceed 2 sigma by 00Z Tuesday with the
    1.25" precipitable water line reaching the Caprock. The 12Z QPF
    consensus is for 2-4" over a sizable area just south of the TX
    Panhandle...with locally higher amounts embedded in the broader QPF
    area.

    Mojave Desert through Southern Utah...
    Numerous showers with embedded daytime and evening thunderstorms is
    still expected as upper low continues to meander over Arizona as
    it begins to fill. Moisture is still anomalous for this time of
    year...being some 2 to 3 standardized anomalies above climatology
    for early May...but concern would be greater for excessive rainfall
    if the actual values of precipitable water values were greater and
    intense rainfall rates would be sustained for a longer duration.
    As a result...the risk of excessive rainfall appears to be non-zero
    but not enough to warrant a Marginal risk area based on
    coordination with local offices.

    Northern Mid-Atlantic into southern New England...
    Closed low will continue to meanders across portions of the Upper
    OH Valley through Monday night. Continued onshore flow brings the
    threat for repeating locally heavy rain over the northern Mid-
    Atlantic into southern New England which will have seen some heavy
    rain between now and then. A Marginal Risk is maintained.


    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this
    update, in keeping with numerous pieces of guidance, ensembles, and
    means all favoring a significant thunderstorm training and heavy
    rain event across the Arklatex and into central Mississippi. The
    RRFS suggests multiple lines of storms will cross west to east
    across the Moderate Risk area, starting in the north from northeast
    Texas, along the Louisiana/Arkansas border, and then continuing
    into Mississippi. The trailing (southwestern) portion of the line
    will hang back as it is joined by additional storms over southeast
    Texas that progress eastward.

    The first line will start out at roughly a southwest to northeast
    orientation, however, into Tuesday night, the lines will get
    progressively more west-east oriented, meaning greater chance that
    repeating lines of storms will move across Louisiana. Meanwhile the
    outflow on the northern side of the complex of storms will allow
    for continued lighter rains in northern areas that were hard hit
    earlier in the evening, which will continue or worsen ongoing flash
    flooding as a result of the earlier storms. While the RRFS is far
    from a perfect solution as to who will get heavy rain and when,
    given the footprint of heavy rain in the RRFS is at least similar
    and in a roughly the same location as the heavy rain footprint in
    the global models, it appeared to offer a good first guess as to
    how the storm evolution will play out through the period.

    The Moderate Risk area remains a lower-end Moderate for now until
    there is better consensus (and likely southward shifts) in the area
    of heaviest rainfall. By then it's possible portions of the area
    may be considered in a higher-end Moderate Risk. For now...rainfall
    amounts in this area should not reach High Risk levels, since there
    is at least some southward movement for most of the storms with
    time, so no one area sees heavy rains for an extended duration.
    Further, it's possible that the training storms end up offshore of
    the Louisiana coast should there be more dramatic southward shifts,
    so the Moderate Risk was determined to be the appropriate risk
    level for flash flooding. Should there be significant increases
    with future runs, that are expected to be more concentrated, then
    it's not completely out of the question that a targeted High Risk
    may be needed with future updates.

    While the heaviest rains will be associated with the moderate Risk
    area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a good amount of
    that moisture and instability will be drawn northwestward ahead of
    a strong shortwave trough associated with the slow-moving upper
    level low over the 4 Corners region. This will extend an area of
    heavy rain from the MCS/Moderate Risk region northwest across much
    of Oklahoma and into southern Colorado. This in turn will lead to a
    shearing front, but the heavy rainfall will be moving over areas
    hard hit with prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and
    the Panhandles. Thus, the Slight Risk extends well west into
    southeastern Colorado, where upslope may play a role in producing
    locally heavy rains along the Front Range, while the higher
    elevations pick up heavy snow.

    ...Northeast...

    A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to
    pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation
    of periods of rain from the same system both today and on Monday.
    By Tuesday, however, instability into and south of New England
    will increase to up to 500 J/kg. While this amount of instability
    is far from impressive, it will still be enough to allow for
    convective showers and maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move
    north up the coast and into New England. Antecedent soil moisture
    conditions are likely to be significantly more favorable for the
    development of flash flooding in this region considering the rain
    expected there today through Monday. Thus, a Slight Risk upgrade is
    possible in this area assuming there are increases in the forecast
    rainfall once this period moves into the short-term and the CAMs
    can analyze the system.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing intense rainfall
    rates and heavy/excessive rainfall will become more numerous
    on Tuesday as height falls make their way out across Texas and as
    the parent upper low ejects out over the Southern Plains. With
    increasing flow off the Gulf drawing deeper moisture on-
    shore....the convection should become increasingly efficient
    rainfall makers.especially over portions of Louisiana and
    Mississippi. There is still some differences in where models place
    the heaviest rainfall...with the GFS and Canadian favoring a faster
    solution while the EC/UK favoring the axis from eastern Texas into
    northern Louisiana. This forecast cycle nudged the Moderate risk
    area a bit eastward but not as far east as the GFS/Canadian.

    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8dldfN7hTUzwil4TeDjnY_oyM5SDS0-V_iBWl8aQuGkh= JRTHDk0feO5qhrjXK3a-vWg_0-39Bqe0W9TltdbuGkUjfOo$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8dldfN7hTUzwil4TeDjnY_oyM5SDS0-V_iBWl8aQuGkh= JRTHDk0feO5qhrjXK3a-vWg_0-39Bqe0W9TltdbuTSaoDJM$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8dldfN7hTUzwil4TeDjnY_oyM5SDS0-V_iBWl8aQuGkh= JRTHDk0feO5qhrjXK3a-vWg_0-39Bqe0W9Tltdbu8E4-bPw$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 050828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 AM EDT Mon May 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ..THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing downpours and a risk
    of excessive rainfall will become more numerous during the day
    across parts of New Mexico that spreads south and east into parts
    of western Texas later in the day and overnight as moisture deepens
    and mid/upper height falls eject out over the plains with an MCS=20
    likely to form during the evening across west Texas/easter New
    Mexico. Given antecedent conditions and soils...thinking is that
    this is a higher-end Slight risk over parts of Texas ls in this=20
    area are well above normal for moisture, especially for the eastern
    Panhandle closer to Oklahoma. Therefore lesser amounts of rain=20
    than normal will be needed to result in flash flooding. There was
    little need to make more than minor adjustments to the previously-
    issued ERO.

    ...Northeast...
    There is a continuing risk of excessive rainfall as a closed low
    meanders over parts of the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes
    region...leaving the Northeast US under diffluent flow at upper
    levels while moisture continues to be transported into the region=20
    at low levels. Now that there has been an increase in model QPF=20
    from the global models and some signals from the HREF for 3 hr QPF=20
    of 2+ inches in parts of southern NY and coastal Southern New=20 England...hoisted a Slight Risk area there. The coverage extended a
    bit northward and westward to cover areas that received 1.5 to=20
    2.75 inches on Sunday. However...the area has been dry for a while=20
    and stream flows are generally low which should help mitigate the=20
    flash flood risk over a broad area. The Marginal risk area=20
    surrounding the Slight was expanded a bit northward but was at=20
    least comparable with previous outlooks.

    ...Southwest...
    There is a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall over portions of the
    Southwest US as a deep layered upper low moves very slowly=20
    eastward. Between precipitable water values of 0.5 to 0.75 inches=20
    and cold temperatures aloft helping to create steep low/mid level=20
    lapse rates...another round of scattered to numerous showers and=20 thunderstorms should develop again with isolated downpours and=20
    locally heavy rainfall amounts today.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this
    update as global models get a better handle on instability and part
    of the event begins to be covered by high resolution CAMs.
    Heaviest rainfall and associated risk of flash flooding should be=20
    tied to deeper convection that forms and moves from parts of
    eastern Texas across central and northern Louisiana/far southern=20
    Arkansas into parts of Mississippi. 05/00Z guidance continued to=20
    depict amounts of 2 to 4 inches in the area with embedded amounts=20
    greater than 6 inches. Convection should start out at roughly a=20
    southwest to northeast orientation but become realigned more west
    to east Tuesday night. This increases the potential for repeating=20
    storms and training of cells. On the northern side of the complex=20
    of storms will allow for continued lighter rains in northern areas=20
    that were hard hit earlier in the evening, which will continue or=20
    worsen ongoing flash flooding as a result of the earlier storms.=20
    Should there be significant increases with future runs, that are=20
    expected to be more concentrated, then it's not completely out of=20
    the question that a targeted High Risk may be needed with future=20
    updates.

    Even though the heaviest rains will be associated with the=20
    moderate Risk area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a=20
    good amount of that moisture and instability will be drawn=20
    northwestward ahead of a strong shortwave trough associated with=20
    the slow-moving upper level low over the 4 Corners region with some
    of the heavier rainfall amounts moving over areas hard hit with=20
    prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and the=20
    Panhandles.=20

    ...Northeast...

    A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to
    pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation
    of periods of rain from today. Instability is far from impressive,
    but it will still be enough to allow for convective showers and=20
    maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move north up the coast and=20
    into New England but model QPF remained in check given the
    progressive nature of the forcing.=20

    Bann whether or not the

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE OVER PORTIONS OF THE GULF
    COAST...

    Locally heavy rainfall looks to be lingering along portions of the
    Gulf coast and Upper Texas coast. Most of the rainfall should be
    along and south of a cold front left behind by the system that
    brought heavy to excessive rainfall to the area on Tuesday. Even
    after the cold passes south over the waters of the Gulf...broad
    isentropic upglide from broad southwesterly flow should keep at=20
    least as risk of rain. However...the 00Z suite of guidance=20
    suggested that the convection may be more widely scattered and more
    offshore than shown by the 01Z and 05Z NBM and may end. Later=20
    outlooks will keep an eye on whether this trend continues.


    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8EM5fHwrHovSnVcwc8fa1U_drTVY9K9Z1f99pUL3QwlM= IM9iFEnNbDirR6jtq_TyefNM-qZxNzlLicBw3RsNCtTj-T0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8EM5fHwrHovSnVcwc8fa1U_drTVY9K9Z1f99pUL3QwlM= IM9iFEnNbDirR6jtq_TyefNM-qZxNzlLicBw3RsN8GfnL7c$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8EM5fHwrHovSnVcwc8fa1U_drTVY9K9Z1f99pUL3QwlM= IM9iFEnNbDirR6jtq_TyefNM-qZxNzlLicBw3RsNO-4IAJ0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon May 5 16:18:20 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 051618
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1218 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ..THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    16z Update: Generally only minor changes to the inherited risk=20
    areas with this update. The Slight risk over the Southern Plains=20
    was expanded west into more of eastern NM based on guidance trends.
    Convection with locally high rates should expand over eastern NM=20
    between 00z-06z this evening.

    The Marginal risk was expanded to the TX coast to account for=20
    ongoing convection over south central TX. Guidance differs on the=20
    evolution of this activity, but some chance for at least modest=20
    upscale growth into a convective cluster or two that could result=20
    in localized flash flooding.=20

    A Marginal risk was also expanded southward into more of central=20
    and eastern VA. Clearing skies will result in isolated to scattered
    convective development over this area by this afternoon. Cells=20
    might tend to move along quick enough to prevent FFG exceedance=20
    (with FFG quite high), but the rainfall will be efficient and=20
    cells will be capable of dropping a quick 2" on a localized basis.=20
    So while it generally probably won't cause more than flood=20
    advisory type impacts, if a heavier cells moves over an urban area
    could certainly see an isolated flash flood.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing downpours and a risk
    of excessive rainfall will become more numerous during the day
    across parts of New Mexico that spreads south and east into parts
    of western Texas later in the day and overnight as moisture deepens
    and mid/upper height falls eject out over the plains with an MCS
    likely to form during the evening across west Texas/easter New
    Mexico. Given antecedent conditions and soils...thinking is that
    this is a higher-end Slight risk over parts of Texas ls in this
    area are well above normal for moisture, especially for the eastern
    Panhandle closer to Oklahoma. Therefore lesser amounts of rain
    than normal will be needed to result in flash flooding. There was
    little need to make more than minor adjustments to the previously-
    issued ERO.

    ...Northeast...
    There is a continuing risk of excessive rainfall as a closed low
    meanders over parts of the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes
    region...leaving the Northeast US under diffluent flow at upper
    levels while moisture continues to be transported into the region
    at low levels. Now that there has been an increase in model QPF
    from the global models and some signals from the HREF for 3 hr QPF
    of 2+ inches in parts of southern NY and coastal Southern New
    England...hoisted a Slight Risk area there. The coverage extended a
    bit northward and westward to cover areas that received 1.5 to
    2.75 inches on Sunday. However...the area has been dry for a while
    and stream flows are generally low which should help mitigate the
    flash flood risk over a broad area. The Marginal risk area
    surrounding the Slight was expanded a bit northward but was at
    least comparable with previous outlooks.

    ...Southwest...
    There is a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall over portions of the
    Southwest US as a deep layered upper low moves very slowly
    eastward. Between precipitable water values of 0.5 to 0.75 inches
    and cold temperatures aloft helping to create steep low/mid level
    lapse rates...another round of scattered to numerous showers and
    thunderstorms should develop again with isolated downpours and
    locally heavy rainfall amounts today.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this
    update as global models get a better handle on instability and part
    of the event begins to be covered by high resolution CAMs.
    Heaviest rainfall and associated risk of flash flooding should be
    tied to deeper convection that forms and moves from parts of
    eastern Texas across central and northern Louisiana/far southern
    Arkansas into parts of Mississippi. 05/00Z guidance continued to
    depict amounts of 2 to 4 inches in the area with embedded amounts
    greater than 6 inches. Convection should start out at roughly a
    southwest to northeast orientation but become realigned more west
    to east Tuesday night. This increases the potential for repeating
    storms and training of cells. On the northern side of the complex
    of storms will allow for continued lighter rains in northern areas
    that were hard hit earlier in the evening, which will continue or
    worsen ongoing flash flooding as a result of the earlier storms.
    Should there be significant increases with future runs, that are
    expected to be more concentrated, then it's not completely out of
    the question that a targeted High Risk may be needed with future
    updates.

    Even though the heaviest rains will be associated with the
    moderate Risk area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a
    good amount of that moisture and instability will be drawn
    northwestward ahead of a strong shortwave trough associated with
    the slow-moving upper level low over the 4 Corners region with some
    of the heavier rainfall amounts moving over areas hard hit with
    prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and the
    Panhandles.

    ...Northeast...

    A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to
    pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation
    of periods of rain from today. Instability is far from impressive,
    but it will still be enough to allow for convective showers and
    maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move north up the coast and
    into New England but model QPF remained in check given the
    progressive nature of the forcing.

    Bann whether or not the

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE OVER PORTIONS OF THE GULF
    COAST...

    Locally heavy rainfall looks to be lingering along portions of the
    Gulf coast and Upper Texas coast. Most of the rainfall should be
    along and south of a cold front left behind by the system that
    brought heavy to excessive rainfall to the area on Tuesday. Even
    after the cold passes south over the waters of the Gulf...broad
    isentropic upglide from broad southwesterly flow should keep at
    least as risk of rain. However...the 00Z suite of guidance
    suggested that the convection may be more widely scattered and more
    offshore than shown by the 01Z and 05Z NBM and may end. Later
    outlooks will keep an eye on whether this trend continues.


    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_yU60z1h_X0KV3xQwVrtR3NZbE7uQ4VHEAsbVPL7WdIx= udmrzlpQM8jC_4W7_Ecutu6QYOBPWrEHAf9hc1eEwPGpCbw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_yU60z1h_X0KV3xQwVrtR3NZbE7uQ4VHEAsbVPL7WdIx= udmrzlpQM8jC_4W7_Ecutu6QYOBPWrEHAf9hc1eEJ-YFKEk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_yU60z1h_X0KV3xQwVrtR3NZbE7uQ4VHEAsbVPL7WdIx= udmrzlpQM8jC_4W7_Ecutu6QYOBPWrEHAf9hc1eEm60xumM$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon May 5 20:01:49 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 052001
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    401 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon May 05 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ..THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    16z Update: Generally only minor changes to the inherited risk
    areas with this update. The Slight risk over the Southern Plains
    was expanded west into more of eastern NM based on guidance trends.
    Convection with locally high rates should expand over eastern NM
    between 00z-06z this evening.

    The Marginal risk was expanded to the TX coast to account for
    ongoing convection over south central TX. Guidance differs on the
    evolution of this activity, but some chance for at least modest
    upscale growth into a convective cluster or two that could result
    in localized flash flooding.

    A Marginal risk was also expanded southward into more of central
    and eastern VA. Clearing skies will result in isolated to scattered
    convective development over this area by this afternoon. Cells
    might tend to move along quick enough to prevent FFG exceedance
    (with FFG quite high), but the rainfall will be efficient and
    cells will be capable of dropping a quick 2" on a localized basis.
    So while it generally probably won't cause more than flood
    advisory type impacts, if a heavier cells moves over an urban area
    could certainly see an isolated flash flood.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing downpours and a risk
    of excessive rainfall will become more numerous during the day
    across parts of New Mexico that spreads south and east into parts
    of western Texas later in the day and overnight as moisture deepens
    and mid/upper height falls eject out over the plains with an MCS
    likely to form during the evening across west Texas/easter New
    Mexico. Given antecedent conditions and soils...thinking is that
    this is a higher-end Slight risk over parts of Texas ls in this
    area are well above normal for moisture, especially for the eastern
    Panhandle closer to Oklahoma. Therefore lesser amounts of rain
    than normal will be needed to result in flash flooding. There was
    little need to make more than minor adjustments to the previously-
    issued ERO.

    ...Northeast...
    There is a continuing risk of excessive rainfall as a closed low
    meanders over parts of the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes
    region...leaving the Northeast US under diffluent flow at upper
    levels while moisture continues to be transported into the region
    at low levels. Now that there has been an increase in model QPF
    from the global models and some signals from the HREF for 3 hr QPF
    of 2+ inches in parts of southern NY and coastal Southern New
    England...hoisted a Slight Risk area there. The coverage extended a
    bit northward and westward to cover areas that received 1.5 to
    2.75 inches on Sunday. However...the area has been dry for a while
    and stream flows are generally low which should help mitigate the
    flash flood risk over a broad area. The Marginal risk area
    surrounding the Slight was expanded a bit northward but was at
    least comparable with previous outlooks.

    ...Southwest...
    There is a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall over portions of the
    Southwest US as a deep layered upper low moves very slowly
    eastward. Between precipitable water values of 0.5 to 0.75 inches
    and cold temperatures aloft helping to create steep low/mid level
    lapse rates...another round of scattered to numerous showers and
    thunderstorms should develop again with isolated downpours and
    locally heavy rainfall amounts today.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    20z Update:
    Main adjustment was a southward shift of the MDT risk over eastern
    TX into the lower MS Valley based on trends seen in the 12z HREF
    and REFS. Highest 3" EAS probabilities (a smoothed point
    probability) stretch from east TX into much of LA, with 5"
    neighborhood probabilities getting into the 30-70% range. Thus
    seems likely that a swath of 3-5" of rainfall will occur, with
    localized totals over 6". 8" neighborhood probabilities drop to 20%
    or less, with the forward progression potentially limiting the
    exceedance of 8" and keeping this from being a High risk type of
    event. Nonetheless, even with a progressive system convection will
    be organized and widespread enough to result in significant=20
    rainfall totals, especially given what should be a very efficient=20 environment for high rates. Numerous instances of flash flooding=20
    are expected, some of which could be locally significant in nature,
    especially if these higher totals end up over a more sensitive=20
    urban area.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this
    update as global models get a better handle on instability and part
    of the event begins to be covered by high resolution CAMs.
    Heaviest rainfall and associated risk of flash flooding should be
    tied to deeper convection that forms and moves from parts of
    eastern Texas across central and northern Louisiana/far southern
    Arkansas into parts of Mississippi. 05/00Z guidance continued to
    depict amounts of 2 to 4 inches in the area with embedded amounts
    greater than 6 inches. Convection should start out at roughly a
    southwest to northeast orientation but become realigned more west
    to east Tuesday night. This increases the potential for repeating
    storms and training of cells. On the northern side of the complex
    of storms will allow for continued lighter rains in northern areas
    that were hard hit earlier in the evening, which will continue or
    worsen ongoing flash flooding as a result of the earlier storms.
    Should there be significant increases with future runs, that are
    expected to be more concentrated, then it's not completely out of
    the question that a targeted High Risk may be needed with future
    updates.

    Even though the heaviest rains will be associated with the
    moderate Risk area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a
    good amount of that moisture and instability will be drawn
    northwestward ahead of a strong shortwave trough associated with
    the slow-moving upper level low over the 4 Corners region with some
    of the heavier rainfall amounts moving over areas hard hit with
    prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and the
    Panhandles.

    ...Northeast...

    A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to
    pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation
    of periods of rain from today. Instability is far from impressive,
    but it will still be enough to allow for convective showers and
    maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move north up the coast and
    into New England but model QPF remained in check given the
    progressive nature of the forcing.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE OVER PORTIONS OF THE GULF
    COAST...

    20z Update:
    Only minimal changes to the inherited Slight risk over southeast TX
    into LA. The environment remains conducive for potential training
    convection early Wednesday, but some question whether this activity
    ends up just offshore or stays onshore. Our latest WPC
    deterministic QPF would support a MDT risk over LA...however
    several pieces of guidance are trending towards a more offshore
    solution by this time...including the AIFS and the 12z RRFS. Given
    this uncertainty we will leave the risk at a Slight level for now.
    Either way these areas of coastal TX into LA have a flash flood=20
    risk...just a question as to whether the main risk is late on day 2
    or on day 3. Future shifts will be able to continue to fine tune=20
    these timing details.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Locally heavy rainfall looks to be lingering along portions of the
    Gulf coast and Upper Texas coast. Most of the rainfall should be
    along and south of a cold front left behind by the system that
    brought heavy to excessive rainfall to the area on Tuesday. Even
    after the cold passes south over the waters of the Gulf...broad
    isentropic upglide from broad southwesterly flow should keep at
    least as risk of rain. However...the 00Z suite of guidance
    suggested that the convection may be more widely scattered and more
    offshore than shown by the 01Z and 05Z NBM and may end. Later
    outlooks will keep an eye on whether this trend continues.


    Bann


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8WhsDe7rf9lil0b4xpG8SrJkL7j416u5TIk6or4MXaHO= m1xd75LonOxXM_QPGN8lFmXoeeQ_i2QFhHiD6l86eu2gnxw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8WhsDe7rf9lil0b4xpG8SrJkL7j416u5TIk6or4MXaHO= m1xd75LonOxXM_QPGN8lFmXoeeQ_i2QFhHiD6l86hHonIAI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8WhsDe7rf9lil0b4xpG8SrJkL7j416u5TIk6or4MXaHO= m1xd75LonOxXM_QPGN8lFmXoeeQ_i2QFhHiD6l86bNfhgaU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 6 00:30:44 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 060030
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    830 PM EDT Mon May 5 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Tue May 06 2025

    ..THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    ...Southern High Plains...
    Showers and thunderstorms capable of producing downpours and a risk
    of excessive rainfall will become more numerous across parts of=20
    eastern New Mexico and spread south and east into parts of western
    Texas as moisture deepens within an upslope flow regime and=20
    an upper low and surrounding shortwaves approach the region.
    With precipitable water values ranging from 0.75" in the Southern=20
    High Plains to 1.5" at lower elevations to the east, a broad area=20
    of 500-3000 J/kg of MU CAPE to the south, and effective bulk shear=20
    of 40-70 kts, supercell development is likely to continue. An MCS=20
    likely to form tonight as storms merge into a broader mass across=20
    western Texas/eastern New Mexico. Hourly rain totals to 2.5" would
    be possible where storms backbuild, merge, or try to train, with=20
    local totals to 5" possible given the non-zero probabilities of=20
    such within the 18z HREF guidance. The signal in the 18z HREF=20
    probabilities of the various precipitation thresholds through 12z=20
    has shifted southward, which led to a southward shift in the Slight
    Risk area. Radar reflectivity and MU CAPE trends in southeast TX
    were also taken into account with the adjustments made to the
    Marginal Risk area.


    ...Northeast...
    There is a continuing risk of excessive rainfall as a closed low
    meanders over parts of the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes
    region...leaving the Northeast under diffluent flow at upper=20
    levels while moisture continues to be transported into the region=20
    at low levels. Adjustments were made to account for radar
    reflectivity trends and 18z HREF probabilities of various
    thresholds.


    ...Southwest...
    There is a Marginal risk of excessive rainfall over portions of the
    Southwest US as a deep layered upper low moves very slowly
    eastward. Between precipitable water values of 0.5 to 0.75 inches
    and cold temperatures aloft helping to create steep low/mid level
    lapse rates and saturated profiles...showers and thunderstorms=20
    should continue into tonight with isolated downpours and locally=20
    heavy rainfall amounts today. Adjustments were made to account for
    radar reflectivity trends and 18z HREF probabilities of various=20
    thresholds.

    Roth/Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    20z Update:
    Main adjustment was a southward shift of the MDT risk over eastern
    TX into the lower MS Valley based on trends seen in the 12z HREF
    and REFS. Highest 3" EAS probabilities (a smoothed point
    probability) stretch from east TX into much of LA, with 5"
    neighborhood probabilities getting into the 30-70% range. Thus
    seems likely that a swath of 3-5" of rainfall will occur, with
    localized totals over 6". 8" neighborhood probabilities drop to 20%
    or less, with the forward progression potentially limiting the
    exceedance of 8" and keeping this from being a High risk type of
    event. Nonetheless, even with a progressive system convection will
    be organized and widespread enough to result in significant
    rainfall totals, especially given what should be a very efficient
    environment for high rates. Numerous instances of flash flooding
    are expected, some of which could be locally significant in nature,
    especially if these higher totals end up over a more sensitive
    urban area.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was greatly expanded with this
    update as global models get a better handle on instability and part
    of the event begins to be covered by high resolution CAMs.
    Heaviest rainfall and associated risk of flash flooding should be
    tied to deeper convection that forms and moves from parts of
    eastern Texas across central and northern Louisiana/far southern
    Arkansas into parts of Mississippi. 05/00Z guidance continued to
    depict amounts of 2 to 4 inches in the area with embedded amounts
    greater than 6 inches. Convection should start out at roughly a
    southwest to northeast orientation but become realigned more west
    to east Tuesday night. This increases the potential for repeating
    storms and training of cells. On the northern side of the complex
    of storms will allow for continued lighter rains in northern areas
    that were hard hit earlier in the evening, which will continue or
    worsen ongoing flash flooding as a result of the earlier storms.
    Should there be significant increases with future runs, that are
    expected to be more concentrated, then it's not completely out of
    the question that a targeted High Risk may be needed with future
    updates.

    Even though the heaviest rains will be associated with the
    moderate Risk area in portions of the lower Mississippi Valley, a
    good amount of that moisture and instability will be drawn
    northwestward ahead of a strong shortwave trough associated with
    the slow-moving upper level low over the 4 Corners region with some
    of the heavier rainfall amounts moving over areas hard hit with
    prior flooding rains, particularly over Oklahoma and the
    Panhandles.

    ...Northeast...

    A slow moving upper level low over the Midwest will continue to
    pump Atlantic moisture into New England on Tuesday...a continuation
    of periods of rain from today. Instability is far from impressive,
    but it will still be enough to allow for convective showers and
    maybe some embedded thunderstorms to move north up the coast and
    into New England but model QPF remained in check given the
    progressive nature of the forcing.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE OVER PORTIONS OF THE GULF
    COAST...

    20z Update:
    Only minimal changes to the inherited Slight risk over southeast TX
    into LA. The environment remains conducive for potential training
    convection early Wednesday, but some question whether this activity
    ends up just offshore or stays onshore. Our latest WPC
    deterministic QPF would support a MDT risk over LA...however
    several pieces of guidance are trending towards a more offshore
    solution by this time...including the AIFS and the 12z RRFS. Given
    this uncertainty we will leave the risk at a Slight level for now.
    Either way these areas of coastal TX into LA have a flash flood
    risk...just a question as to whether the main risk is late on day 2
    or on day 3. Future shifts will be able to continue to fine tune
    these timing details.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    Locally heavy rainfall looks to be lingering along portions of the
    Gulf coast and Upper Texas coast. Most of the rainfall should be
    along and south of a cold front left behind by the system that
    brought heavy to excessive rainfall to the area on Tuesday. Even
    after the cold passes south over the waters of the Gulf...broad
    isentropic upglide from broad southwesterly flow should keep at
    least as risk of rain. However...the 00Z suite of guidance
    suggested that the convection may be more widely scattered and more
    offshore than shown by the 01Z and 05Z NBM and may end. Later
    outlooks will keep an eye on whether this trend continues.


    Bann


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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    412 AM EDT Tue May 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    A powerful upper low over the Four Corners region is the catalyst
    for what will be an expansive area of Excessive Rainfall from the
    lower elevations of the Central Rockies' Front Range to as far east
    as the central Gulf Coast. The tightening pressure gradient between
    low pressure in the Southern Plains and a bubble of high pressure
    over the Tennessee Valley today is fostering a deep southerly fetch
    of Gulf moisture that is wrapping around the northern flank of the
    700mb low over northern New Mexico. The ECMWF SAT shows a 300-400
    kg/m/s IVT, topping >99th climatological percentile, oriented at
    southeast CO and northeast NM. While instability is lacking, the
    highly saturated profile when combined with strong synopptic-scale
    forcing aloft and upslope enhancement will support a prolong period
    of heavy rain below 7,000ft. The Slight Risk remains in place in
    these areas, as well as farther east across portions of OK/TX
    Panhandles where the pivoting band of >0.75" PWs will result in
    efficient rainfall over more saturated soils. Speaking of saturated
    soils, much of southern OK and northern TX also remain under the
    Slight Risk given their highly saturated soils and any heavy
    rainfall rates through the day Tuesday may result in scattered
    instances of flash flooding. RAP soundings around OKC show highly
    saturated profiles with warm cloud layers up to 10,000ft deep.=20
    Some weak instability (<100 J/kg MUCAPE) may be present as well,=20
    which while these values are low, they could result in highly=20
    efficient rainfall rates with PWs approaching 1.5".=20

    Farther south and east, much of eastern TX and the Lower MS Valley
    will either be in the warm sector of the storm system or just north
    of the surface warm front as it tracks just north of the Gulf
    Coast by Tuesday evening. Along the upper coast of Texas, PWs
    around 2.0" and warm cloud layers up to 13,000ft deep in some cases
    will overlap with MUCAPE that ranges between 500-1000 J/kg. A
    highly sheared environment will also support healthy mesocyclones
    that can further enhance rainfall rates. The 00Z HREF neighborhood probabilities show low-to-moderate chances (30-50%) for 24-hr
    rainfall totals >5" from just nor of I-10 in southeast TX on east
    throughout much of southern LA and southern MS. There are actually
    some low chance probabilities (10-20%) for isolated totals >8" in
    southern LA. Overall, this is a setup that is ripe for flash=20
    flooding in the Lower MS Valley with some instances of significant=20
    flash flooding in areas where training segments of thunderstorms=20
    track over sensitive urbanized environments. Residents should=20
    ensure they have a reliable way to receive flash flood warnings=20
    from their respective NWS WFOs.

    ...Northeast...

    The upper low responsible for a multi-day stretch of wet weather
    throughout the region will begin to make its exit today, but not=20
    before it triggers more rounds of heavy rain and thunderstorms. The
    ECMWF SAT shows the lingering presence of a >500 kg/m/s southerly IVT
    that is responsible for fostering anomalous >90th percentile PWs
    above 1.25" in southern New England. Farther west over NY and
    eastern PA, the 00Z HREF mean shows anywhere from 500-1,000 J/kg of
    MUCAPE available with PWs ranging between 0.75-1.0". Soils have
    saturated substantially over the past couple days, resulting in
    1-hr FFGs that are <1.00"/hr in the southern tier of NY and
    northern PA. Given these factors, the Marginal Risk remains in
    place for the potential for additional isolated instances of flash
    flooding.=20

    ...Desert Southwest...

    Following a couple days of active weather that has moistened up
    soils throughout the region, another round of showers and
    thunderstorms is expected today. As mid-level RH values decrease,
    the expectation is for more surface-based heating to add to an
    increasingly unstable environment aloft (250-500 MUCAPE available
    Tuesday afternoon and evening). What is also aiding in the flash=20
    flood potential is added synoptic-scale lift as a 500mb low=20
    approaches from the north and the diffluent left- exit region of a=20
    250mb jet streak moves in overhead. 48-hr QPE estimates as much as
    1-2" of rain has fallen in portions of the Marginal Risk area.
    Given the sufficient synoptic-scale support is coupled with
    increasingly sensitive soils, opted to introduce a Marginal Risk
    this forecast cycle for the region today.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    THE GULF COAST...

    By Wednesday, the warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas
    coast will stall out along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for
    widespread showers and thunderstorms. PWs remain above the 97.5
    climatological percentiles from the Upper Texas coast to as far
    east as the FL Panhandle. In fact, there are anomalous PWs that
    stretch up into northern AL Wednesday afternoon. The flash flood
    threat remains greatest along the central Gulf Coast and Lower
    MS Valley regions where they are most commonly positioned at the
    nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that are topping 1.75" in most
    locations. RAP soundings in southern LA Wednesday morning show
    low-mid level RH values >90% and warm cloud layers at least=20
    11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict tall "skinny CAPE"
    profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs still suggest the
    potential for organized convection given modest mid-level shear and
    low-level helicity (sfc-3km >150 m2/s2). The NBM 75th percentile
    shows rainfall totals >5" in some cases across the central Gulf
    Coast, which is on top of the heavy rainfall that occurred on
    Tuesday. The concern would be the SWrly IVT continues to intersect
    the stalled frontal boundary in a way that supports training and
    back-building convection that produces highly efficient rainfall
    rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly saturated. No
    Moderate Risk was hoisted as of this forecast cycle as there are
    still some varying scenarios depicted by model guidance, but should
    guidance come into better agreement on a swath of 3-5" amounts
    and./or soils grow highly sensitive due to Tuesday's Excessive
    Rainfall, a Moderate Risk upgrade could be necessary.=20

    The Marginal Risk was expanded north into the hills of northern AL
    where FFGs are lower (<2" for 1-hr FFGs) and guidance showed some
    modest moisture advection via the aforementioned IVT. Given the
    saturated soils in the region and the potential for locally heavy=20
    rainfall rates, the Marginal Risk was expanded a little farther=20
    north closer ot the TN Valley.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    Thursday and into Thursday night is a near carbon-copy setup to
    Wednesday's where the stationary front draped W-E along the Gulf
    Coast will continue to act as the initiator in additional
    thunderstorms across the South. The central Gulf Coast will remain
    the more primed spot for potential flash flooding given the
    increasingly sensitive soils in the region after multiple days of
    heavy rainfall. PWs ranging between 1.6-1.8" will be common with
    MLCAPE that tops 1,000 J/kg. Thunderstorms could produce >2"/hr
    rainfall rates across the Marginal Risk area. Should guidance trend
    wetter in the coming days, it is possible a Slight Risk upgrade may
    be necessary given the soils more sensitive state.=20

    ...Northeast...

    No Marginal Risk was introduced tonight, but this region bears
    watching as a cold front approaches from the West. Several guidance
    members now show 1-2" of rainfall across portions of the region on
    Thursday, however they vary on where those heavier amounts are most
    likely to occur. A positively tilted upper trough approaching from
    Ontario will provide plenty of upper-level ascent while the=20
    approaching cold front acts as the surface/low-level trigger for=20
    initiating thunderstorms. Plus, some guidance members show the=20 positively-tilted trough cutting off just enough to where an 850mb=20
    low forms near the Northeast coast. This is not the case across all
    guidance and is resulting in rainfall swaths that are farther=20
    north over the interior Northeast (GFS/ECMWF/ICON), or as far=20
    south and east as the I-95 corridor (EC-AIFS/CMC/UKMET/RRFS). With
    lingering uncertainty in the forecast, the Marginal Risk upgrade=20
    was held off this forecast cycle. But given the highly saturated=20
    soils in the region, it is possible a Marginal Risk will be=20
    necessary in future forecast updates once confidence increases in=20
    where the heaviest swath of rainfall occurs.=20


    Mullinax


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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 6 15:52:05 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 061551
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1151 AM EDT Tue May 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...16Z Update...

    The Moderate Risk area was trimmed a bit on the northwestern side
    with some of the latest CAMs guidance indicating that there will be
    less coverage of convection in between the main MCS to the south
    and east centered over northern Louisiana, and the upslope focused
    precip (with help from an upper level shortwave) to the west from
    the TX/OK Panhandles northwest into southern CO. THe Slight Risk
    area was expanded to the north and west to include a portion of the
    I-25 corridor near Colorado Springs, and the surrounding Marginal
    was expanded well north along I-25 to include Denver and Ft.
    Collins, with more rainfall the further south you go. This is due
    in part to rainfall amounts being quite abnormal for this area, and
    while associated flash flooding should be isolated given dry
    antecedent soil conditions and heavy snow in the higher elevations
    of the Front Range, the urban factor should support isolated
    instances through the night. For CO in general this will be a
    long-duration stratiform rain event in an area that doesn't have
    too many of those in a given year, so the abnormality of it could
    overwhelm flood-prone areas.

    Around the DFW Metroplex, a line of intense thunderstorms is moving
    across the metros right now. Once the line clears to the east, that
    should be the end of the flooding threat for the day. For points
    south and west of there, the Slight and Marginal Risk areas were
    trimmed accordingly.

    The biggest change with this update was to introduce a Slight Risk
    upgrade for Central New York and portions of the Southern Tier
    south into northeastern Pennsylvania, in coordination with
    BGM/Binghamton, NY and BUF/Buffalo, NY forecast offices. Similar to
    yesterday in the DMV, albeit further north, the same upper level=20
    low is expected to produce additional areas of training convection
    from around the Mason-Dixon line north into NY. For the Slight Risk
    area, additional upper level energy will allow for greater
    organization as compared with areas further south, and despite the
    fast movement of individual cells, the focus of the heaviest rains
    over areas that have seen multiple afternoons of heavy rainfall
    prior to this event have left the soils very saturated and
    therefore unable to absorb much additional rainfall. The
    surrounding Marginal was expanded back into MD, Northern VA, and
    the eastern panhandle of WV with this update, as convection is
    already beginning to break out in these areas. Again, it's unlikely
    the storms will be nearly as organized today around and south of
    the Mason-Dixon line as compared with yesterday, so a Marginal
    should be all that is needed.

    The Marginal risk out west in southern NV, far eastern CA, and
    western AZ remains unchanged with this update as widely scattered
    convection is expected once again today, and at last much of
    southern NV and northwestern AZ have very saturated soils from
    yesterday's convection, favoring the redevelopment of additional
    flash flooding in this area with today's forecast storms.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    A powerful upper low over the Four Corners region is the catalyst
    for what will be an expansive area of Excessive Rainfall from the
    lower elevations of the Central Rockies' Front Range to as far east
    as the central Gulf Coast. The tightening pressure gradient between
    low pressure in the Southern Plains and a bubble of high pressure
    over the Tennessee Valley today is fostering a deep southerly fetch
    of Gulf moisture that is wrapping around the northern flank of the
    700mb low over northern New Mexico. The ECMWF SAT shows a 300-400
    kg/m/s IVT, topping >99th climatological percentile, oriented at
    southeast CO and northeast NM. While instability is lacking, the
    highly saturated profile when combined with strong synopptic-scale
    forcing aloft and upslope enhancement will support a prolong period
    of heavy rain below 7,000ft. The Slight Risk remains in place in
    these areas, as well as farther east across portions of OK/TX
    Panhandles where the pivoting band of >0.75" PWs will result in
    efficient rainfall over more saturated soils. Speaking of saturated
    soils, much of southern OK and northern TX also remain under the
    Slight Risk given their highly saturated soils and any heavy
    rainfall rates through the day Tuesday may result in scattered
    instances of flash flooding. RAP soundings around OKC show highly
    saturated profiles with warm cloud layers up to 10,000ft deep.
    Some weak instability (<100 J/kg MUCAPE) may be present as well,
    which while these values are low, they could result in highly
    efficient rainfall rates with PWs approaching 1.5".

    Farther south and east, much of eastern TX and the Lower MS Valley
    will either be in the warm sector of the storm system or just north
    of the surface warm front as it tracks just north of the Gulf
    Coast by Tuesday evening. Along the upper coast of Texas, PWs
    around 2.0" and warm cloud layers up to 13,000ft deep in some cases
    will overlap with MUCAPE that ranges between 500-1000 J/kg. A
    highly sheared environment will also support healthy mesocyclones
    that can further enhance rainfall rates. The 00Z HREF neighborhood probabilities show low-to-moderate chances (30-50%) for 24-hr
    rainfall totals >5" from just nor of I-10 in southeast TX on east
    throughout much of southern LA and southern MS. There are actually
    some low chance probabilities (10-20%) for isolated totals >8" in
    southern LA. Overall, this is a setup that is ripe for flash
    flooding in the Lower MS Valley with some instances of significant
    flash flooding in areas where training segments of thunderstorms
    track over sensitive urbanized environments. Residents should
    ensure they have a reliable way to receive flash flood warnings
    from their respective NWS WFOs.

    ...Northeast...

    The upper low responsible for a multi-day stretch of wet weather
    throughout the region will begin to make its exit today, but not
    before it triggers more rounds of heavy rain and thunderstorms. The
    ECMWF SAT shows the lingering presence of a >500 kg/m/s southerly IVT
    that is responsible for fostering anomalous >90th percentile PWs
    above 1.25" in southern New England. Farther west over NY and
    eastern PA, the 00Z HREF mean shows anywhere from 500-1,000 J/kg of
    MUCAPE available with PWs ranging between 0.75-1.0". Soils have
    saturated substantially over the past couple days, resulting in
    1-hr FFGs that are <1.00"/hr in the southern tier of NY and
    northern PA. Given these factors, the Marginal Risk remains in
    place for the potential for additional isolated instances of flash
    flooding.

    ...Desert Southwest...

    Following a couple days of active weather that has moistened up
    soils throughout the region, another round of showers and
    thunderstorms is expected today. As mid-level RH values decrease,
    the expectation is for more surface-based heating to add to an
    increasingly unstable environment aloft (250-500 MUCAPE available
    Tuesday afternoon and evening). What is also aiding in the flash
    flood potential is added synoptic-scale lift as a 500mb low
    approaches from the north and the diffluent left- exit region of a
    250mb jet streak moves in overhead. 48-hr QPE estimates as much as
    1-2" of rain has fallen in portions of the Marginal Risk area.
    Given the sufficient synoptic-scale support is coupled with
    increasingly sensitive soils, opted to introduce a Marginal Risk
    this forecast cycle for the region today.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST...

    By Wednesday, the warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas
    coast will stall out along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for
    widespread showers and thunderstorms. PWs remain above the 97.5
    climatological percentiles from the Upper Texas coast to as far
    east as the FL Panhandle. In fact, there are anomalous PWs that
    stretch up into northern AL Wednesday afternoon. The flash flood
    threat remains greatest along the central Gulf Coast and Lower
    MS Valley regions where they are most commonly positioned at the
    nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that are topping 1.75" in most
    locations. RAP soundings in southern LA Wednesday morning show
    low-mid level RH values >90% and warm cloud layers at least
    11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict tall "skinny CAPE"
    profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs still suggest the
    potential for organized convection given modest mid-level shear and
    low-level helicity (sfc-3km >150 m2/s2). The NBM 75th percentile
    shows rainfall totals >5" in some cases across the central Gulf
    Coast, which is on top of the heavy rainfall that occurred on
    Tuesday. The concern would be the SWrly IVT continues to intersect
    the stalled frontal boundary in a way that supports training and
    back-building convection that produces highly efficient rainfall
    rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly saturated. No
    Moderate Risk was hoisted as of this forecast cycle as there are
    still some varying scenarios depicted by model guidance, but should
    guidance come into better agreement on a swath of 3-5" amounts
    and./or soils grow highly sensitive due to Tuesday's Excessive
    Rainfall, a Moderate Risk upgrade could be necessary.

    The Marginal Risk was expanded north into the hills of northern AL
    where FFGs are lower (<2" for 1-hr FFGs) and guidance showed some
    modest moisture advection via the aforementioned IVT. Given the
    saturated soils in the region and the potential for locally heavy
    rainfall rates, the Marginal Risk was expanded a little farther
    north closer ot the TN Valley.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    Thursday and into Thursday night is a near carbon-copy setup to
    Wednesday's where the stationary front draped W-E along the Gulf
    Coast will continue to act as the initiator in additional
    thunderstorms across the South. The central Gulf Coast will remain
    the more primed spot for potential flash flooding given the
    increasingly sensitive soils in the region after multiple days of
    heavy rainfall. PWs ranging between 1.6-1.8" will be common with
    MLCAPE that tops 1,000 J/kg. Thunderstorms could produce >2"/hr
    rainfall rates across the Marginal Risk area. Should guidance trend
    wetter in the coming days, it is possible a Slight Risk upgrade may
    be necessary given the soils more sensitive state.

    ...Northeast...

    No Marginal Risk was introduced tonight, but this region bears
    watching as a cold front approaches from the West. Several guidance
    members now show 1-2" of rainfall across portions of the region on
    Thursday, however they vary on where those heavier amounts are most
    likely to occur. A positively tilted upper trough approaching from
    Ontario will provide plenty of upper-level ascent while the
    approaching cold front acts as the surface/low-level trigger for
    initiating thunderstorms. Plus, some guidance members show the positively-tilted trough cutting off just enough to where an 850mb
    low forms near the Northeast coast. This is not the case across all
    guidance and is resulting in rainfall swaths that are farther
    north over the interior Northeast (GFS/ECMWF/ICON), or as far
    south and east as the I-95 corridor (EC-AIFS/CMC/UKMET/RRFS). With
    lingering uncertainty in the forecast, the Marginal Risk upgrade
    was held off this forecast cycle. But given the highly saturated
    soils in the region, it is possible a Marginal Risk will be
    necessary in future forecast updates once confidence increases in
    where the heaviest swath of rainfall occurs.


    Mullinax


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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 6 20:16:37 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 062015
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    415 PM EDT Tue May 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue May 06 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...16Z Update...

    The Moderate Risk area was trimmed a bit on the northwestern side
    with some of the latest CAMs guidance indicating that there will be
    less coverage of convection in between the main MCS to the south
    and east centered over northern Louisiana, and the upslope focused
    precip (with help from an upper level shortwave) to the west from
    the TX/OK Panhandles northwest into southern CO. THe Slight Risk
    area was expanded to the north and west to include a portion of the
    I-25 corridor near Colorado Springs, and the surrounding Marginal
    was expanded well north along I-25 to include Denver and Ft.
    Collins, with more rainfall the further south you go. This is due
    in part to rainfall amounts being quite abnormal for this area, and
    while associated flash flooding should be isolated given dry
    antecedent soil conditions and heavy snow in the higher elevations
    of the Front Range, the urban factor should support isolated
    instances through the night. For CO in general this will be a
    long-duration stratiform rain event in an area that doesn't have
    too many of those in a given year, so the abnormality of it could
    overwhelm flood-prone areas.

    Around the DFW Metroplex, a line of intense thunderstorms is moving
    across the metros right now. Once the line clears to the east, that
    should be the end of the flooding threat for the day. For points
    south and west of there, the Slight and Marginal Risk areas were
    trimmed accordingly.

    The biggest change with this update was to introduce a Slight Risk
    upgrade for Central New York and portions of the Southern Tier
    south into northeastern Pennsylvania, in coordination with
    BGM/Binghamton, NY and BUF/Buffalo, NY forecast offices. Similar to
    yesterday in the DMV, albeit further north, the same upper level
    low is expected to produce additional areas of training convection
    from around the Mason-Dixon line north into NY. For the Slight Risk
    area, additional upper level energy will allow for greater
    organization as compared with areas further south, and despite the
    fast movement of individual cells, the focus of the heaviest rains
    over areas that have seen multiple afternoons of heavy rainfall
    prior to this event have left the soils very saturated and
    therefore unable to absorb much additional rainfall. The
    surrounding Marginal was expanded back into MD, Northern VA, and
    the eastern panhandle of WV with this update, as convection is
    already beginning to break out in these areas. Again, it's unlikely
    the storms will be nearly as organized today around and south of
    the Mason-Dixon line as compared with yesterday, so a Marginal
    should be all that is needed.

    The Marginal risk out west in southern NV, far eastern CA, and
    western AZ remains unchanged with this update as widely scattered
    convection is expected once again today, and at last much of
    southern NV and northwestern AZ have very saturated soils from
    yesterday's convection, favoring the redevelopment of additional
    flash flooding in this area with today's forecast storms.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Lower Mississippi Valley to the Colorado Front Range...

    A powerful upper low over the Four Corners region is the catalyst
    for what will be an expansive area of Excessive Rainfall from the
    lower elevations of the Central Rockies' Front Range to as far east
    as the central Gulf Coast. The tightening pressure gradient between
    low pressure in the Southern Plains and a bubble of high pressure
    over the Tennessee Valley today is fostering a deep southerly fetch
    of Gulf moisture that is wrapping around the northern flank of the
    700mb low over northern New Mexico. The ECMWF SAT shows a 300-400
    kg/m/s IVT, topping >99th climatological percentile, oriented at
    southeast CO and northeast NM. While instability is lacking, the
    highly saturated profile when combined with strong synopptic-scale
    forcing aloft and upslope enhancement will support a prolong period
    of heavy rain below 7,000ft. The Slight Risk remains in place in
    these areas, as well as farther east across portions of OK/TX
    Panhandles where the pivoting band of >0.75" PWs will result in
    efficient rainfall over more saturated soils. Speaking of saturated
    soils, much of southern OK and northern TX also remain under the
    Slight Risk given their highly saturated soils and any heavy
    rainfall rates through the day Tuesday may result in scattered
    instances of flash flooding. RAP soundings around OKC show highly
    saturated profiles with warm cloud layers up to 10,000ft deep.
    Some weak instability (<100 J/kg MUCAPE) may be present as well,
    which while these values are low, they could result in highly
    efficient rainfall rates with PWs approaching 1.5".

    Farther south and east, much of eastern TX and the Lower MS Valley
    will either be in the warm sector of the storm system or just north
    of the surface warm front as it tracks just north of the Gulf
    Coast by Tuesday evening. Along the upper coast of Texas, PWs
    around 2.0" and warm cloud layers up to 13,000ft deep in some cases
    will overlap with MUCAPE that ranges between 500-1000 J/kg. A
    highly sheared environment will also support healthy mesocyclones
    that can further enhance rainfall rates. The 00Z HREF neighborhood probabilities show low-to-moderate chances (30-50%) for 24-hr
    rainfall totals >5" from just nor of I-10 in southeast TX on east
    throughout much of southern LA and southern MS. There are actually
    some low chance probabilities (10-20%) for isolated totals >8" in
    southern LA. Overall, this is a setup that is ripe for flash
    flooding in the Lower MS Valley with some instances of significant
    flash flooding in areas where training segments of thunderstorms
    track over sensitive urbanized environments. Residents should
    ensure they have a reliable way to receive flash flood warnings
    from their respective NWS WFOs.

    ...Northeast...

    The upper low responsible for a multi-day stretch of wet weather
    throughout the region will begin to make its exit today, but not
    before it triggers more rounds of heavy rain and thunderstorms. The
    ECMWF SAT shows the lingering presence of a >500 kg/m/s southerly IVT
    that is responsible for fostering anomalous >90th percentile PWs
    above 1.25" in southern New England. Farther west over NY and
    eastern PA, the 00Z HREF mean shows anywhere from 500-1,000 J/kg of
    MUCAPE available with PWs ranging between 0.75-1.0". Soils have
    saturated substantially over the past couple days, resulting in
    1-hr FFGs that are <1.00"/hr in the southern tier of NY and
    northern PA. Given these factors, the Marginal Risk remains in
    place for the potential for additional isolated instances of flash
    flooding.

    ...Desert Southwest...

    Following a couple days of active weather that has moistened up
    soils throughout the region, another round of showers and
    thunderstorms is expected today. As mid-level RH values decrease,
    the expectation is for more surface-based heating to add to an
    increasingly unstable environment aloft (250-500 MUCAPE available
    Tuesday afternoon and evening). What is also aiding in the flash
    flood potential is added synoptic-scale lift as a 500mb low
    approaches from the north and the diffluent left- exit region of a
    250mb jet streak moves in overhead. 48-hr QPE estimates as much as
    1-2" of rain has fallen in portions of the Marginal Risk area.
    Given the sufficient synoptic-scale support is coupled with
    increasingly sensitive soils, opted to introduce a Marginal Risk
    this forecast cycle for the region today.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Gulf Coast...

    In coordination with LIX/Slidell, LA forecast office, a Moderate
    Risk upgrade was introduced with this update for portions of
    southeastern Louisiana, including the Baton Rouge and New Orleans
    metros. Strong thunderstorms producing very heavy rainfall with
    maximum rates up to 3 inches per hour are expected to be ongoing
    across the Moderate Risk region at the start of the period 12Z
    Wednesday morning. The expectation is that heavy rain will be
    ongoing in the few hours prior to the start of the period, such
    that additional rainfall about midway through this heavy rainfall
    event at 12Z will significantly worsen already ongoing flooding.
    Thus, many of the flooding impacts from the Day 1 Moderate Risk=20
    will be experienced into the first part of this Day 2 time frame.

    It is very important to note that there has been a notable
    southward trend in the guidance regarding where the axis of
    heaviest rainfall will set up, with the I-10 corridor from Baton
    Rouge through New Orleans the likely northernmost extent of the
    multiple inches of rain forecast for this area. Thus, any
    additional southward trend would require a notable downgrade in the
    forecasted risk areas. In other words, the "bust potential" of this
    event has notably increased. Nonetheless, given the susceptibility
    of the Moderate Risk area to flash flooding in both aforementioned
    urban centers and along the Atchafalaya River and its spillways,
    the current forecasted rainfall during this period, though almost
    entirely Wednesday morning, would still likely cause numerous
    instances of flash flooding, some of whom may be significant.

    Regardless of exactly where the heaviest storms are occurring at
    the start of the period Wednesday morning, there is very good
    consensus that by as early as late Wednesday morning, the storms
    will have all pushed south into the Gulf, leaving much of the
    Louisiana coast in much lighter outflow from those storms to the
    north of their cores. Thus, most of the threat is prior to 18Z,
    with very likely downgrades likely thereafter.

    Further to the west, the Slight Risk area was expanded west to=20
    include the Houston metro in coordination with HGX/Houston, TX=20
    forecast office. The aforementioned southward trend in the=20
    guidance is notable here as well, but there appears to be better=20
    consensus there may be newly developed afternoon convection
    impacting the Houston Metro Wednesday afternoon. Urbanization and susceptibility to flash flooding of that area was a considerable
    factor in the upgrade for this area.

    ...Mid-South...

    An expansive Marginal Risk area was added with this update from
    Kansas to north Georgia ahead of a dying upper level low that will
    slowly track eastward across the region, providing enough forcing
    for widely scattered thunderstorms to take advantage of still
    considerable Gulf moisture in the area. Much of this area has been
    hit recently with heavy rains, which will locally increase the
    flash flooding risk, especially if the upper low can help organize
    any of the convection.

    ...Florida Space Coast...

    A small Marginal Risk was added to the ERO for urbanized portions
    of the I-95 corridor through north Florida along the Space Coast. A
    stalled out cold front is likely to provide enough forcing given
    the plentiful moisture around (PWATs exceeding 1.75 inches) to
    allow any storms that form, perhaps along the sea breeze or along
    the cold pools of other storms, to be slow moving and have enough
    moisture to locally cause heavy rains. Isolated instances of flash
    flooding are possible.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    By Wednesday, the warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas
    coast will stall out along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for
    widespread showers and thunderstorms. PWs remain above the 97.5
    climatological percentiles from the Upper Texas coast to as far
    east as the FL Panhandle. In fact, there are anomalous PWs that
    stretch up into northern AL Wednesday afternoon. The flash flood
    threat remains greatest along the central Gulf Coast and Lower
    MS Valley regions where they are most commonly positioned at the
    nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that are topping 1.75" in most
    locations. RAP soundings in southern LA Wednesday morning show
    low-mid level RH values >90% and warm cloud layers at least
    11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict tall "skinny CAPE"
    profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs still suggest the
    potential for organized convection given modest mid-level shear and
    low-level helicity (sfc-3km >150 m2/s2). The NBM 75th percentile
    shows rainfall totals >5" in some cases across the central Gulf
    Coast, which is on top of the heavy rainfall that occurred on
    Tuesday. The concern would be the SWrly IVT continues to intersect
    the stalled frontal boundary in a way that supports training and
    back-building convection that produces highly efficient rainfall
    rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly saturated. No
    Moderate Risk was hoisted as of this forecast cycle as there are
    still some varying scenarios depicted by model guidance, but should
    guidance come into better agreement on a swath of 3-5" amounts
    and./or soils grow highly sensitive due to Tuesday's Excessive
    Rainfall, a Moderate Risk upgrade could be necessary.

    The Marginal Risk was expanded north into the hills of northern AL
    where FFGs are lower (<2" for 1-hr FFGs) and guidance showed some
    modest moisture advection via the aforementioned IVT. Given the
    saturated soils in the region and the potential for locally heavy
    rainfall rates, the Marginal Risk was expanded a little farther
    north closer ot the TN Valley.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    In coordination with LIX/Slidell, LA forecast office, a Slight Risk
    upgrade was introduced with this update for portions of the central
    Gulf Coast. The stalled front over the area will continue to
    provide the forcing needed for additional convection to form along
    the coast, possibly intruding inland as far north as New Orleans.
    The area is expected to be very susceptible to flash flooding from
    additional rainfall after today's and Wednesday's storms, but it's
    very possible that the strongest storms impacting the area remain
    offshore enough to not pose as high a flash flooding risk. However,
    despite this uncertainty with where the storms will form countered
    with the certainty that the soils and rivers will be full from
    prior days' rainfall, there's enough certainty for the risk
    upgrade.=20

    ...Southeast...

    The Marginal Risk was expanded along Florida's First and Space
    Coasts as well as northwest into Arkansas with this update. A
    longwave very positively tilted trough will continue to provide the
    forcing needed for another day of convective development across the
    Southeast as plentiful Gulf moisture remains south of the surface
    cold front. Due to the diffuse nature of the front and low
    predictability of any surface fronts and cold pools, expect the
    storms to be mostly disorganized and widely scattered, which favors
    the Marginal Risk mostly for areas where the soils are more
    saturated due to prior rains. For Florida, the same front will be
    stuck along the coast as the Day 2/Wednesday period, resulting in
    the potential for similar convection again in this period Thursday afternoon.=20

    ...Deep South Texas...

    A broad Marginal was added with this update on the tail end of the
    front over the western Gulf and into Texas. A significant cold
    front pushing south out of central Texas will meet up with deep
    Gulf moisture over the western Gulf, which will allow for scattered
    storms across the area, which will force additional convection from
    prior storms' cold pools. This most areas will see at least some
    period of heavy rain, which will be capable of causing isolated
    instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    A very potent digging shortwave trough will move due south down the Appalachians on Thursday. It will tap into increasing Gulf/Atlantic
    moisture downwind of the Gulf convection, drawing moisture and
    instability northward and into the Northeast, with the shortwave
    providing the forcing. Instability will be the limiting factor for
    any storms, with the initial development of those storms perhaps
    having the greatest flash flooding threat. By the overnight
    Thursday night, expect a broad swath of moderate rainfall with
    embedded convection tracking northward into the Northeast. Once
    again some of these same areas have had or are having heavy rain
    impact the area the past couple days through the Day 2 period, so
    isolated instance of flash flooding in this area appear likely with
    the additional rainfall.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    Thursday and into Thursday night is a near carbon-copy setup to
    Wednesday's where the stationary front draped W-E along the Gulf
    Coast will continue to act as the initiator in additional
    thunderstorms across the South. The central Gulf Coast will remain
    the more primed spot for potential flash flooding given the
    increasingly sensitive soils in the region after multiple days of
    heavy rainfall. PWs ranging between 1.6-1.8" will be common with
    MLCAPE that tops 1,000 J/kg. Thunderstorms could produce >2"/hr
    rainfall rates across the Marginal Risk area. Should guidance trend
    wetter in the coming days, it is possible a Slight Risk upgrade may
    be necessary given the soils more sensitive state.

    ...Northeast...

    No Marginal Risk was introduced tonight, but this region bears
    watching as a cold front approaches from the West. Several guidance
    members now show 1-2" of rainfall across portions of the region on
    Thursday, however they vary on where those heavier amounts are most
    likely to occur. A positively tilted upper trough approaching from
    Ontario will provide plenty of upper-level ascent while the
    approaching cold front acts as the surface/low-level trigger for
    initiating thunderstorms. Plus, some guidance members show the positively-tilted trough cutting off just enough to where an 850mb
    low forms near the Northeast coast. This is not the case across all
    guidance and is resulting in rainfall swaths that are farther
    north over the interior Northeast (GFS/ECMWF/ICON), or as far
    south and east as the I-95 corridor (EC-AIFS/CMC/UKMET/RRFS). With
    lingering uncertainty in the forecast, the Marginal Risk upgrade
    was held off this forecast cycle. But given the highly saturated
    soils in the region, it is possible a Marginal Risk will be
    necessary in future forecast updates once confidence increases in
    where the heaviest swath of rainfall occurs.


    Mullinax


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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed May 7 00:43:40 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 070043
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    843 PM EDT Tue May 6 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Wed May 07 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN TEXAS INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    ...East Texas into Lower Mississippi Valley...

    Steady progression of heavy convection will continue through the
    evening with a combination of discrete cells co-located within a
    broad MCS propagation along the northern periphery of a sharp
    theta_E gradient aligned with a slow-moving warm front. Rainfall
    rates this evening will settle between 1-3"/hr with a few cells
    over Southern LA and MS potentially breaching 3"/hr, especially
    during intra-hour tendencies. Ascent pattern remains very favorable
    with a broad cyclonic ULL positioned over the Southern Plains with
    extension back into the Western CONUS. HREF EAS prob fields for >3"
    is very high (>50%) across all of Central LA extending east into
    the mouth of the MS just north of New Orleans. This places some
    formidable metro populations within an expected corridor of heavy
    rainfall that will likely lead to flash flooding through the
    overnight hours. There's already been several flood reports with
    associated flash flood warnings lined up along I-20 across the
    ArkLaTex, now expanding east through Northern LA. Expect that trend
    to continue into MS with the Jackson metro next in line for
    anticipated impacts. Despite some lower EAS probs for >3" within
    Jackson, there's been a considerable jump in the recent HRRR output
    with a solid 2-4" anticipated within the zone of impact from the
    propagating MCS. With the cell mergers taking place already across
    Southwest LA, there will be a considerable footprint of 2+" totals
    with embedded 3-5" amounts that will allow for broad areal coverage
    of flash flood warnings the next several hours. The previously
    inherited MDT risk from the afternoon remains for many, although
    some of the risk was trimmed due to convective impacts already
    occurring earlier in the afternoon and evening.=20

    A line of convection remains situated across portions of East TX as
    well thanks to parallel boundary layer flow up against a slow
    moving cold front that appears to be quickly losing steam as it
    moves eastward. Countering LLJ is causing significant degradation
    of the frontal progression, something that will allow for training
    echoes to be a common occurrence over the course of the evening.=20
    The next few hours will be the most concerning periods before the=20
    setup slowly shifts east into the Lower Sabine allowing for an=20
    addition few inches to potentially fall over the southern portion=20
    of I-45. The Houston metro will be an area of interest this evening
    as the slow storm motions could lead to some locally enhanced=20
    totals within the urban corridor. The best threat still looks to=20
    lie northeast of there, but the metro remains solidly in the SLGT=20
    risk for the update.=20

    A MRGL risk now encompasses Deep South TX as hourly hi-res depicts
    a stronger mid-level perturbation ejecting out of Coahuila with=20
    scattered thunderstorm development likely overnight, blossoming to=20
    the east as it interacts with the western fringes of the LLJ=20
    component. Areas outside the urban zones will be tough to flood=20
    considering the setup, but there are some indications of locally=20
    heavy totals >2" in spots, so decided to expand further south to=20
    cover for the low-end threat.=20

    ...Great Basin...

    Slow-moving ULL situated over the Colorado River Basin along with
    primary diurnal destabilization has led to scattered heavy
    thunderstorms to blossom across portions of Southern NV, Southeast
    CA, and now moving into Western AZ. This setup is a mid-tier MRGL
    risk with a majority of the rainfall being beneficial for the area,
    but sufficient low to mid-level buoyancy coupled with favorable
    upper forcing and steep lapse rates could yield a few lingering
    storms to exceed 0.50"/hr rates capable of flash flood concerns the
    next 2-4 hours. Once we have a sufficient diurnal heat loss after
    sunset, the convective setup will dwindle with any activity
    petering out to just light showers overnight.=20

    ...Central and Southern Plains...

    The primary ULL across the Plains will allow for a continued
    elevated convective threat with a few heavier cores located under,
    and just north of the closed reflection. Regional theta_E's are not
    very impressive at the moment, but as noted via regional radar
    output, some stronger mid-level vorticity is pivoting around the
    general circulation allowing for some heavier convective cores to
    initiate over the TX Panhandle and Southwest KS. The main precip
    shield will undergo a relatively solid west to east axis of steady precipitation with a mature axis of deformation on the northwest
    flank of the ULL center. This will lead to 1-2" totals, locally
    higher to occur over portions of Southwest and South-Central KS
    down along the OK state line. The threat for flash flooding is low,
    but still within the lower threshold when assessing the cumulative
    nature of the precip anticipated. A MRGL risk was maintained for
    the above area.

    ...Northeast...

    Remnant ULL situated over the interior Northeast U.S. will pinwheel
    northward with shower and storm activity continuing over the next
    few hours within the Catskills and western flank of the Hudson
    Valley. Elevated convective clusters will linger under the primary
    circulation, but will begin to falter as we move into the overnight
    period as drier air gets pulled northward around the circulation.
    Additional totals of 1" are plausible across places east and
    southeast of Lake Ontario which could offer an isolated flash flood
    threat for areas that have already seen decent rainfall this
    afternoon. The areas that had the greatest impacts earlier will
    likely see the threat wane in the next hour as they see the dry air
    advection regime take place.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Gulf Coast...

    In coordination with LIX/Slidell, LA forecast office, a Moderate
    Risk upgrade was introduced with this update for portions of
    southeastern Louisiana, including the Baton Rouge and New Orleans
    metros. Strong thunderstorms producing very heavy rainfall with
    maximum rates up to 3 inches per hour are expected to be ongoing
    across the Moderate Risk region at the start of the period 12Z
    Wednesday morning. The expectation is that heavy rain will be
    ongoing in the few hours prior to the start of the period, such
    that additional rainfall about midway through this heavy rainfall
    event at 12Z will significantly worsen already ongoing flooding.
    Thus, many of the flooding impacts from the Day 1 Moderate Risk
    will be experienced into the first part of this Day 2 time frame.

    It is very important to note that there has been a notable
    southward trend in the guidance regarding where the axis of
    heaviest rainfall will set up, with the I-10 corridor from Baton
    Rouge through New Orleans the likely northernmost extent of the
    multiple inches of rain forecast for this area. Thus, any
    additional southward trend would require a notable downgrade in the
    forecasted risk areas. In other words, the "bust potential" of this
    event has notably increased. Nonetheless, given the susceptibility
    of the Moderate Risk area to flash flooding in both aforementioned
    urban centers and along the Atchafalaya River and its spillways,
    the current forecasted rainfall during this period, though almost
    entirely Wednesday morning, would still likely cause numerous
    instances of flash flooding, some of whom may be significant.

    Regardless of exactly where the heaviest storms are occurring at
    the start of the period Wednesday morning, there is very good
    consensus that by as early as late Wednesday morning, the storms
    will have all pushed south into the Gulf, leaving much of the
    Louisiana coast in much lighter outflow from those storms to the
    north of their cores. Thus, most of the threat is prior to 18Z,
    with very likely downgrades likely thereafter.

    Further to the west, the Slight Risk area was expanded west to
    include the Houston metro in coordination with HGX/Houston, TX
    forecast office. The aforementioned southward trend in the
    guidance is notable here as well, but there appears to be better
    consensus there may be newly developed afternoon convection
    impacting the Houston Metro Wednesday afternoon. Urbanization and susceptibility to flash flooding of that area was a considerable
    factor in the upgrade for this area.

    ...Mid-South...

    An expansive Marginal Risk area was added with this update from
    Kansas to north Georgia ahead of a dying upper level low that will
    slowly track eastward across the region, providing enough forcing
    for widely scattered thunderstorms to take advantage of still
    considerable Gulf moisture in the area. Much of this area has been
    hit recently with heavy rains, which will locally increase the
    flash flooding risk, especially if the upper low can help organize
    any of the convection.

    ...Florida Space Coast...

    A small Marginal Risk was added to the ERO for urbanized portions
    of the I-95 corridor through north Florida along the Space Coast. A
    stalled out cold front is likely to provide enough forcing given
    the plentiful moisture around (PWATs exceeding 1.75 inches) to
    allow any storms that form, perhaps along the sea breeze or along
    the cold pools of other storms, to be slow moving and have enough
    moisture to locally cause heavy rains. Isolated instances of flash
    flooding are possible.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    By Wednesday, the warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas
    coast will stall out along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for
    widespread showers and thunderstorms. PWs remain above the 97.5
    climatological percentiles from the Upper Texas coast to as far
    east as the FL Panhandle. In fact, there are anomalous PWs that
    stretch up into northern AL Wednesday afternoon. The flash flood
    threat remains greatest along the central Gulf Coast and Lower
    MS Valley regions where they are most commonly positioned at the
    nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that are topping 1.75" in most
    locations. RAP soundings in southern LA Wednesday morning show
    low-mid level RH values >90% and warm cloud layers at least
    11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict tall "skinny CAPE"
    profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs still suggest the
    potential for organized convection given modest mid-level shear and
    low-level helicity (sfc-3km >150 m2/s2). The NBM 75th percentile
    shows rainfall totals >5" in some cases across the central Gulf
    Coast, which is on top of the heavy rainfall that occurred on
    Tuesday. The concern would be the SWrly IVT continues to intersect
    the stalled frontal boundary in a way that supports training and
    back-building convection that produces highly efficient rainfall
    rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly saturated. No
    Moderate Risk was hoisted as of this forecast cycle as there are
    still some varying scenarios depicted by model guidance, but should
    guidance come into better agreement on a swath of 3-5" amounts
    and./or soils grow highly sensitive due to Tuesday's Excessive
    Rainfall, a Moderate Risk upgrade could be necessary.

    The Marginal Risk was expanded north into the hills of northern AL
    where FFGs are lower (<2" for 1-hr FFGs) and guidance showed some
    modest moisture advection via the aforementioned IVT. Given the
    saturated soils in the region and the potential for locally heavy
    rainfall rates, the Marginal Risk was expanded a little farther
    north closer ot the TN Valley.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...2030Z Update...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    In coordination with LIX/Slidell, LA forecast office, a Slight Risk
    upgrade was introduced with this update for portions of the central
    Gulf Coast. The stalled front over the area will continue to
    provide the forcing needed for additional convection to form along
    the coast, possibly intruding inland as far north as New Orleans.
    The area is expected to be very susceptible to flash flooding from
    additional rainfall after today's and Wednesday's storms, but it's
    very possible that the strongest storms impacting the area remain
    offshore enough to not pose as high a flash flooding risk. However,
    despite this uncertainty with where the storms will form countered
    with the certainty that the soils and rivers will be full from
    prior days' rainfall, there's enough certainty for the risk
    upgrade.

    ...Southeast...

    The Marginal Risk was expanded along Florida's First and Space
    Coasts as well as northwest into Arkansas with this update. A
    longwave very positively tilted trough will continue to provide the
    forcing needed for another day of convective development across the
    Southeast as plentiful Gulf moisture remains south of the surface
    cold front. Due to the diffuse nature of the front and low
    predictability of any surface fronts and cold pools, expect the
    storms to be mostly disorganized and widely scattered, which favors
    the Marginal Risk mostly for areas where the soils are more
    saturated due to prior rains. For Florida, the same front will be
    stuck along the coast as the Day 2/Wednesday period, resulting in
    the potential for similar convection again in this period Thursday
    afternoon.

    ...Deep South Texas...

    A broad Marginal was added with this update on the tail end of the
    front over the western Gulf and into Texas. A significant cold
    front pushing south out of central Texas will meet up with deep
    Gulf moisture over the western Gulf, which will allow for scattered
    storms across the area, which will force additional convection from
    prior storms' cold pools. This most areas will see at least some
    period of heavy rain, which will be capable of causing isolated
    instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    A very potent digging shortwave trough will move due south down the Appalachians on Thursday. It will tap into increasing Gulf/Atlantic
    moisture downwind of the Gulf convection, drawing moisture and
    instability northward and into the Northeast, with the shortwave
    providing the forcing. Instability will be the limiting factor for
    any storms, with the initial development of those storms perhaps
    having the greatest flash flooding threat. By the overnight
    Thursday night, expect a broad swath of moderate rainfall with
    embedded convection tracking northward into the Northeast. Once
    again some of these same areas have had or are having heavy rain
    impact the area the past couple days through the Day 2 period, so
    isolated instance of flash flooding in this area appear likely with
    the additional rainfall.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    Thursday and into Thursday night is a near carbon-copy setup to
    Wednesday's where the stationary front draped W-E along the Gulf
    Coast will continue to act as the initiator in additional
    thunderstorms across the South. The central Gulf Coast will remain
    the more primed spot for potential flash flooding given the
    increasingly sensitive soils in the region after multiple days of
    heavy rainfall. PWs ranging between 1.6-1.8" will be common with
    MLCAPE that tops 1,000 J/kg. Thunderstorms could produce >2"/hr
    rainfall rates across the Marginal Risk area. Should guidance trend
    wetter in the coming days, it is possible a Slight Risk upgrade may
    be necessary given the soils more sensitive state.

    ...Northeast...

    No Marginal Risk was introduced tonight, but this region bears
    watching as a cold front approaches from the West. Several guidance
    members now show 1-2" of rainfall across portions of the region on
    Thursday, however they vary on where those heavier amounts are most
    likely to occur. A positively tilted upper trough approaching from
    Ontario will provide plenty of upper-level ascent while the
    approaching cold front acts as the surface/low-level trigger for
    initiating thunderstorms. Plus, some guidance members show the positively-tilted trough cutting off just enough to where an 850mb
    low forms near the Northeast coast. This is not the case across all
    guidance and is resulting in rainfall swaths that are farther
    north over the interior Northeast (GFS/ECMWF/ICON), or as far
    south and east as the I-95 corridor (EC-AIFS/CMC/UKMET/RRFS). With
    lingering uncertainty in the forecast, the Marginal Risk upgrade
    was held off this forecast cycle. But given the highly saturated
    soils in the region, it is possible a Marginal Risk will be
    necessary in future forecast updates once confidence increases in
    where the heaviest swath of rainfall occurs.


    Mullinax


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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    418 AM EDT Wed May 7 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN LOUISIANA...

    ...Gulf Coast...

    The warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas coast has
    stalled along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for widespread=20
    showers and thunderstorms through this morning. PWs remain above=20
    the 97.5 climatological percentiles from the Upper TX coast to=20
    southern LA. The flash flood threat remains greatest along the=20
    central Gulf Coast and Lower MS Valley regions where they are most=20
    commonly positioned at the nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that=20
    are approaching 2.0" along the LA coast. RAP soundings in southern=20
    LA Wednesday morning show low-mid level RH values >90% and warm=20
    cloud layers at least 11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict=20
    tall "skinny CAPE" profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs
    still suggest the potential for organized convection given modest=20
    mid-level shear and low-level helicity (sfc-3km >100 m2/s2). The=20
    SWrly IVT will intersect the stalled frontal boundary in a way that
    supports training and back-building convection producing highly=20
    efficient rainfall rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly=20
    saturated. This supports the lingering presence of the Moderate=20
    Risk in southern LA through the first half of the day. Note that=20
    most model guidance has the bulk of the Day 1 Excessive Rainfall=20
    threat during the morning hours. There may still be some residual=20 thunderstorm activity through the afternoon, but most guidance=20
    suggests the bulk of the flash flood threat should wind down some
    for the second half of the day.

    Further to the west, the Slight Risk remains in place for the
    Houston metro given the greater urbanization and susceptibility to
    flash flooding. There is the potential for another round of storms
    this afternoon that will track over a similar area that was hit by
    heavy rainfall yesterday, but any lingering flash flood threat=20
    should begin to wind down after sunset.

    ...Central Plains & Mid-South...

    The lingering mid-upper level low circulation of the Central=20
    Plains will funnel a narrow swath of 700-300mb moisture along the=20
    northern flank of the low, while weak 850mb FGEN and WAA over the=20
    Mid-South. Despite the lack of modest instability, RAP soundings=20
    show >90% saturated sfc-700mb profiles and warm cloud layers up to
    9,000ft deep in some cases. With modest upper-level and mesoscale=20
    forcing present, as well as ample low-mid level moisture, efficient
    rainfall over saturated soils in parts of the region could result=20
    in additional areas of flash flooding. Aside from minor tweaks to=20
    the area given the latest QPF, the Marginal Risk remains on track.=20

    ...Florida Space Coast...

    A small Marginal Risk remains in place for urbanized portions of=20
    the I-95 corridor through north Florida along the Space Coast. A=20
    stalled out cold front to the north and typical sea breeze cycles
    will trigger rounds of thunderstorms that will have unusually high
    PWs available by early May climo in eastern FL. PWs are generally
    above 1.75" in northern FL, which is above the 97.5 climatological
    percentile according to ECMWF SATs. 00Z RAP soundings for=20
    Wednesday afternoon show highly saturated profiles (>90% within=20
    the sfc-500mb layer), skinny CAPE soundings with >1,000 J/kg of=20
    MLCAPE, and warm cloud layers of at least 12,000ft deep. Most=20
    rainfall will be a welcome sight for the region with severe to=20
    extreme drought having set in. However, the soils are so dry that=20
    rainfall rates >2"/hr would prove too much for the sandy soils of=20
    northern FL to handle, let alone the more urbanized corridor along=20
    I-95. Isolated instances of flash flooding are possible, with the=20
    more urbanized communities most at-risk.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE SLIGHT RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST & THE NORTHEAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In
    addition to what is still a moist air-mass for early May, there
    will be the added assistance of an approaching positively-tilted
    500mb trough to provide additional upper-level support. The central
    Gulf Coast remains most susceptible to flash flooding given their
    closer positioning to a >400 kg/m/s IVT and PWs above 1.75". These
    favorable atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly
    sensitive soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall.
    The Slight Risk remains in place over a small section of the
    Central Gulf Coast, while the expansive Marginal Risk that
    stretches from the Ozarks to as far east as the Southeast coast=20
    still looks to be in good shape given the dearth of moisture in=20
    place ahead of the approaching cold front and sufficient=20
    instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL Space Coast is=20
    also at risk for flash flooding given the similar setup to=20
    Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following any=20
    thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding is=20
    possible, most notably in the region's more urbanized communities=20
    and where PWs are highest.

    ...Deep South Texas...

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet=20
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in scattered thunderstorms across
    the area. These storms will have the benefit of a dual-jet streak
    setup aloft which when combined with the approach of a 500mb
    shortwave trough will help support thunderstorm clusters into
    Thursday night. Low-level easterly winds should lead to=20
    thunderstorm development over the Davis Mountains that could then=20
    propagate SE towards the Rio Grande Valley. With mean wind flow=20
    out of the west, any storms that may form over the Sierra Madre=20
    could also approach the Rio Grande River Thursday evening. As these
    initial round of storms generate cold pools, these new cold pools=20
    will invigorate additional clusters of storms Thursday night. Most=20
    areas will see at least some period of heavy rain, which will be=20
    capable of causing isolated instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    A complex upper-level evolution will begin on Thursday over the
    Northeast that is trending towards a more wet and stormy setup
    across the Northeast. An anti-cyclonic wave break over southeast
    Canada is splitting a lobe of the positively-tilted upper trough over
    southern Ontario into a cut-off low by Thursday night. Guidance
    remains split on how far west the blossoming shield of
    precipitation will advance, but most guidance is coming into a
    consensus on a swath of the Northeast that stems from central PA=20
    and the southern tier of NY on east into areas just west of I-95.
    The area of greatest concern lies in northeast PA and into the
    Catskills where soils have grown exceptionally sensitive over the
    past several days thanks to multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.=20

    As the upper low deepens Thursday night, strong 200-500mb upper
    level divergence will work in tandem with strengthening 850-700mb
    FGEN and WAA to generate an axis of heavy rainfall. Soundings
    between 06-12Z Fri show highly saturated profiles and warm cloud
    layers as deep as 9,000ft deep closer to I-95. As of this
    discussion, 6-hr FFGs were as low as 1.00" along the northeast
    PA/NY state borders. While some recovery is expected, this
    highlights that it may not take much more than one inch of rainfall
    in 6 hours to cause flash flooding. For these reasons, a Slight=20
    Risk was introduced over parts of the Poconos and Catskills where=20
    there is a decent compromise for higher QPF and where soils are=20
    most sensitive.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 08 2025 - 12Z Sat May 09 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    An amplifying and large upper low positioned over the Lower MS
    Valley will linger over the region through Friday night with heavy
    rainfall likely from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast.
    Latest trends in guidance has been to sharpen up a 500mb low over
    the Lower MS Valley. The ECMWF SATs page shows an IVT >400 kg/m/s
    which is above the 90th climatological percentile. Soundings in the
    region also show highly saturated profiles, modest instability,=20
    and deep warm cloud layers. This combined with sufficient vertical=20
    wind shear to help sustain areas of organized thunderstorms is=20
    increasing the threat for Excessive Rainfall over the central Gulf=20
    Coast and FL Panhandle. This setup remains fluid given the recent=20
    trends in guidance to be wetter over the central Gulf Coast, with=20
    the EC- AIFS and GFS GraphCast showing similar trends. Given the=20
    growing soil sensitivities in the central Gulf Coast, the latest=20
    Day 3 ERO update now includes a Slight Risk. The more urbanized=20
    swath of the I-10 corridor is most at-risk for potential flash=20
    flooding on Friday.=20

    ...Northeast...

    The upper-low evolution stated in the Day 2 discussion holds true
    for Friday but unlike Day 2 when the heavy rain threat is confined
    to a 6 to at most 12 hour window, the Excessive Rainfall threat
    will impact not just the daytime hours on Friday but into Friday
    night. Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing a
    strengthening IVT surpassing 500 kg/m/s off the Northeast coast
    that will transport copious amounts of moisture into the Northeast.
    Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the 500mb low into
    northern NY and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector
    will feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread=20
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a=20
    Slight Risk was not issued as of this forecast cycle. However,=20
    given trends in guidance are all pointing towards a cut-off low=20
    over the Northeast and soils throughout the region are highly=20
    sensitive, there may be the need for a Slight Risk upgrade in=20
    future forecast updates once confidence increases in where the=20
    heaviest rainfall takes shape.=20

    Mullinax


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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed May 7 15:57:58 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 071557
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1157 AM EDT Wed May 7 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN LOUISIANA...

    ...Gulf Coast...

    16Z update... The cluster of convection has mostly progressed out
    of Texas with intensity decreasing over western Louisiana noted as
    well. As such, the Marginal Risk area was reduced to the Galveston
    area and points east. The Slight Risk was trimmed out of southwest
    Louisiana. Currently there is a squall line over the central Gulf
    that will continue to impact south-central and southeast Louisiana
    over the next few hours. A Moderate Risk was already in place
    however was adjusted to include the city of New Orleans. The
    progressive nature of this convection may warrant a special update
    to address the reduction of threat for flash flooding as the storms
    dissipate and/or move out of the area.

    Campbell

    The warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas coast has
    stalled along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for widespread
    showers and thunderstorms through this morning. PWs remain above
    the 97.5 climatological percentiles from the Upper TX coast to
    southern LA. The flash flood threat remains greatest along the
    central Gulf Coast and Lower MS Valley regions where they are most
    commonly positioned at the nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that
    are approaching 2.0" along the LA coast. RAP soundings in southern
    LA Wednesday morning show low-mid level RH values >90% and warm
    cloud layers at least 11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict
    tall "skinny CAPE" profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs
    still suggest the potential for organized convection given modest
    mid-level shear and low-level helicity (sfc-3km >100 m2/s2). The
    SWrly IVT will intersect the stalled frontal boundary in a way that
    supports training and back-building convection producing highly
    efficient rainfall rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly
    saturated. This supports the lingering presence of the Moderate
    Risk in southern LA through the first half of the day. Note that
    most model guidance has the bulk of the Day 1 Excessive Rainfall
    threat during the morning hours. There may still be some residual
    thunderstorm activity through the afternoon, but most guidance
    suggests the bulk of the flash flood threat should wind down some
    for the second half of the day.

    Further to the west, the Slight Risk remains in place for the
    Houston metro given the greater urbanization and susceptibility to
    flash flooding. There is the potential for another round of storms
    this afternoon that will track over a similar area that was hit by
    heavy rainfall yesterday, but any lingering flash flood threat
    should begin to wind down after sunset.

    ...Central Plains & Mid-South...

    The lingering mid-upper level low circulation of the Central
    Plains will funnel a narrow swath of 700-300mb moisture along the
    northern flank of the low, while weak 850mb FGEN and WAA over the
    Mid-South. Despite the lack of modest instability, RAP soundings
    show >90% saturated sfc-700mb profiles and warm cloud layers up to
    9,000ft deep in some cases. With modest upper-level and mesoscale
    forcing present, as well as ample low-mid level moisture, efficient
    rainfall over saturated soils in parts of the region could result
    in additional areas of flash flooding. Aside from minor tweaks to
    the area given the latest QPF, the Marginal Risk remains on track.

    ...Georgia and northeast Florida...

    16Z update... The latest CAMs have trended the convection a bit
    further north placing them from northeast Florida up the coast
    toward the South Carolina/Georgia line. Georgia was previously not
    included in the Marginal Risk area and has now been added. Portions
    of the central Florida coast was removed from the Marginal as well.=20

    Campbell

    A small Marginal Risk remains in place for urbanized portions of
    the I-95 corridor through north Florida along the Space Coast. A
    stalled out cold front to the north and typical sea breeze cycles
    will trigger rounds of thunderstorms that will have unusually high
    PWs available by early May climo in eastern FL. PWs are generally
    above 1.75" in northern FL, which is above the 97.5 climatological
    percentile according to ECMWF SATs. 00Z RAP soundings for
    Wednesday afternoon show highly saturated profiles (>90% within
    the sfc-500mb layer), skinny CAPE soundings with >1,000 J/kg of
    MLCAPE, and warm cloud layers of at least 12,000ft deep. Most
    rainfall will be a welcome sight for the region with severe to
    extreme drought having set in. However, the soils are so dry that
    rainfall rates >2"/hr would prove too much for the sandy soils of
    northern FL to handle, let alone the more urbanized corridor along
    I-95. Isolated instances of flash flooding are possible, with the
    more urbanized communities most at-risk.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE SLIGHT RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST & THE NORTHEAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In
    addition to what is still a moist air-mass for early May, there
    will be the added assistance of an approaching positively-tilted
    500mb trough to provide additional upper-level support. The central
    Gulf Coast remains most susceptible to flash flooding given their
    closer positioning to a >400 kg/m/s IVT and PWs above 1.75". These
    favorable atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly
    sensitive soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall.
    The Slight Risk remains in place over a small section of the
    Central Gulf Coast, while the expansive Marginal Risk that
    stretches from the Ozarks to as far east as the Southeast coast
    still looks to be in good shape given the dearth of moisture in
    place ahead of the approaching cold front and sufficient
    instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL Space Coast is
    also at risk for flash flooding given the similar setup to
    Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following any
    thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding is
    possible, most notably in the region's more urbanized communities
    and where PWs are highest.

    ...Deep South Texas...

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in scattered thunderstorms across
    the area. These storms will have the benefit of a dual-jet streak
    setup aloft which when combined with the approach of a 500mb
    shortwave trough will help support thunderstorm clusters into
    Thursday night. Low-level easterly winds should lead to
    thunderstorm development over the Davis Mountains that could then
    propagate SE towards the Rio Grande Valley. With mean wind flow
    out of the west, any storms that may form over the Sierra Madre
    could also approach the Rio Grande River Thursday evening. As these
    initial round of storms generate cold pools, these new cold pools
    will invigorate additional clusters of storms Thursday night. Most
    areas will see at least some period of heavy rain, which will be
    capable of causing isolated instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    A complex upper-level evolution will begin on Thursday over the
    Northeast that is trending towards a more wet and stormy setup
    across the Northeast. An anti-cyclonic wave break over southeast
    Canada is splitting a lobe of the positively-tilted upper trough over
    southern Ontario into a cut-off low by Thursday night. Guidance
    remains split on how far west the blossoming shield of
    precipitation will advance, but most guidance is coming into a
    consensus on a swath of the Northeast that stems from central PA
    and the southern tier of NY on east into areas just west of I-95.
    The area of greatest concern lies in northeast PA and into the
    Catskills where soils have grown exceptionally sensitive over the
    past several days thanks to multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    As the upper low deepens Thursday night, strong 200-500mb upper
    level divergence will work in tandem with strengthening 850-700mb
    FGEN and WAA to generate an axis of heavy rainfall. Soundings
    between 06-12Z Fri show highly saturated profiles and warm cloud
    layers as deep as 9,000ft deep closer to I-95. As of this
    discussion, 6-hr FFGs were as low as 1.00" along the northeast
    PA/NY state borders. While some recovery is expected, this
    highlights that it may not take much more than one inch of rainfall
    in 6 hours to cause flash flooding. For these reasons, a Slight
    Risk was introduced over parts of the Poconos and Catskills where
    there is a decent compromise for higher QPF and where soils are
    most sensitive.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    An amplifying and large upper low positioned over the Lower MS
    Valley will linger over the region through Friday night with heavy
    rainfall likely from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast.
    Latest trends in guidance has been to sharpen up a 500mb low over
    the Lower MS Valley. The ECMWF SATs page shows an IVT >400 kg/m/s
    which is above the 90th climatological percentile. Soundings in the
    region also show highly saturated profiles, modest instability,
    and deep warm cloud layers. This combined with sufficient vertical
    wind shear to help sustain areas of organized thunderstorms is
    increasing the threat for Excessive Rainfall over the central Gulf
    Coast and FL Panhandle. This setup remains fluid given the recent
    trends in guidance to be wetter over the central Gulf Coast, with
    the EC- AIFS and GFS GraphCast showing similar trends. Given the
    growing soil sensitivities in the central Gulf Coast, the latest
    Day 3 ERO update now includes a Slight Risk. The more urbanized
    swath of the I-10 corridor is most at-risk for potential flash
    flooding on Friday.

    ...Northeast...

    The upper-low evolution stated in the Day 2 discussion holds true
    for Friday but unlike Day 2 when the heavy rain threat is confined
    to a 6 to at most 12 hour window, the Excessive Rainfall threat
    will impact not just the daytime hours on Friday but into Friday
    night. Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing a
    strengthening IVT surpassing 500 kg/m/s off the Northeast coast
    that will transport copious amounts of moisture into the Northeast.
    Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the 500mb low into
    northern NY and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector
    will feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk was not issued as of this forecast cycle. However,
    given trends in guidance are all pointing towards a cut-off low
    over the Northeast and soils throughout the region are highly
    sensitive, there may be the need for a Slight Risk upgrade in
    future forecast updates once confidence increases in where the
    heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Mullinax


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9p1PvlyvH3Or29dc9Ooph-46iF-XzReFhuxGQEV8OiBd= T4DNvnjdFM-4_uErgsn8VuNPWphu0qAgP1e_xAUV5t7MxKk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9p1PvlyvH3Or29dc9Ooph-46iF-XzReFhuxGQEV8OiBd= T4DNvnjdFM-4_uErgsn8VuNPWphu0qAgP1e_xAUVfWjohs0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9p1PvlyvH3Or29dc9Ooph-46iF-XzReFhuxGQEV8OiBd= T4DNvnjdFM-4_uErgsn8VuNPWphu0qAgP1e_xAUVrqPO4UI$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 071819
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    219 PM EDT Wed May 7 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    SOUTHERN LOUISIANA...

    ...Gulf Coast...

    18Z Update... The heaviest rainfall has now pushed firmly off the
    Central Gulf coast with the theta_E alignment now running parallel,
    offshore of the coastal plain leading to remnant stratiform
    precipitation across Southeast LA. Some pockets of moderate to
    heavy rain are still plausible south of the I-10 corridor over LA
    leaving a low-end MRGL in place for the rest of the afternoon
    before the event fully subsides. Considering the above factors and
    limitations on the potential, the previous SLGT and MDT risks were
    removed in coordination with the local WFO with a small MRGL in
    place to cover for the remaining precip bands moving over the
    region.=20

    Kleebauer

    16Z update... The cluster of convection has mostly progressed out
    of Texas with intensity decreasing over western Louisiana noted as
    well. As such, the Marginal Risk area was reduced to the Galveston
    area and points east. The Slight Risk was trimmed out of southwest
    Louisiana. Currently there is a squall line over the central Gulf
    that will continue to impact south-central and southeast Louisiana
    over the next few hours. A Moderate Risk was already in place
    however was adjusted to include the city of New Orleans. The
    progressive nature of this convection may warrant a special update
    to address the reduction of threat for flash flooding as the storms
    dissipate and/or move out of the area.

    Campbell

    The warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas coast has
    stalled along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for widespread
    showers and thunderstorms through this morning. PWs remain above
    the 97.5 climatological percentiles from the Upper TX coast to
    southern LA. The flash flood threat remains greatest along the
    central Gulf Coast and Lower MS Valley regions where they are most
    commonly positioned at the nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that
    are approaching 2.0" along the LA coast. RAP soundings in southern
    LA Wednesday morning show low-mid level RH values >90% and warm
    cloud layers at least 11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict
    tall "skinny CAPE" profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs
    still suggest the potential for organized convection given modest
    mid-level shear and low-level helicity (sfc-3km >100 m2/s2). The
    SWrly IVT will intersect the stalled frontal boundary in a way that
    supports training and back-building convection producing highly
    efficient rainfall rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly
    saturated. This supports the lingering presence of the Moderate
    Risk in southern LA through the first half of the day. Note that
    most model guidance has the bulk of the Day 1 Excessive Rainfall
    threat during the morning hours. There may still be some residual
    thunderstorm activity through the afternoon, but most guidance
    suggests the bulk of the flash flood threat should wind down some
    for the second half of the day.

    Further to the west, the Slight Risk remains in place for the
    Houston metro given the greater urbanization and susceptibility to
    flash flooding. There is the potential for another round of storms
    this afternoon that will track over a similar area that was hit by
    heavy rainfall yesterday, but any lingering flash flood threat
    should begin to wind down after sunset.

    ...Central Plains & Mid-South...

    The lingering mid-upper level low circulation of the Central
    Plains will funnel a narrow swath of 700-300mb moisture along the
    northern flank of the low, while weak 850mb FGEN and WAA over the
    Mid-South. Despite the lack of modest instability, RAP soundings
    show >90% saturated sfc-700mb profiles and warm cloud layers up to
    9,000ft deep in some cases. With modest upper-level and mesoscale
    forcing present, as well as ample low-mid level moisture, efficient
    rainfall over saturated soils in parts of the region could result
    in additional areas of flash flooding. Aside from minor tweaks to
    the area given the latest QPF, the Marginal Risk remains on track.

    ...Georgia and northeast Florida...

    16Z update... The latest CAMs have trended the convection a bit
    further north placing them from northeast Florida up the coast
    toward the South Carolina/Georgia line. Georgia was previously not
    included in the Marginal Risk area and has now been added. Portions
    of the central Florida coast was removed from the Marginal as well.

    Campbell

    A small Marginal Risk remains in place for urbanized portions of
    the I-95 corridor through north Florida along the Space Coast. A
    stalled out cold front to the north and typical sea breeze cycles
    will trigger rounds of thunderstorms that will have unusually high
    PWs available by early May climo in eastern FL. PWs are generally
    above 1.75" in northern FL, which is above the 97.5 climatological
    percentile according to ECMWF SATs. 00Z RAP soundings for
    Wednesday afternoon show highly saturated profiles (>90% within
    the sfc-500mb layer), skinny CAPE soundings with >1,000 J/kg of
    MLCAPE, and warm cloud layers of at least 12,000ft deep. Most
    rainfall will be a welcome sight for the region with severe to
    extreme drought having set in. However, the soils are so dry that
    rainfall rates >2"/hr would prove too much for the sandy soils of
    northern FL to handle, let alone the more urbanized corridor along
    I-95. Isolated instances of flash flooding are possible, with the
    more urbanized communities most at-risk.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE SLIGHT RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST & THE NORTHEAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In
    addition to what is still a moist air-mass for early May, there
    will be the added assistance of an approaching positively-tilted
    500mb trough to provide additional upper-level support. The central
    Gulf Coast remains most susceptible to flash flooding given their
    closer positioning to a >400 kg/m/s IVT and PWs above 1.75". These
    favorable atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly
    sensitive soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall.
    The Slight Risk remains in place over a small section of the
    Central Gulf Coast, while the expansive Marginal Risk that
    stretches from the Ozarks to as far east as the Southeast coast
    still looks to be in good shape given the dearth of moisture in
    place ahead of the approaching cold front and sufficient
    instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL Space Coast is
    also at risk for flash flooding given the similar setup to
    Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following any
    thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding is
    possible, most notably in the region's more urbanized communities
    and where PWs are highest.

    ...Deep South Texas...

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in scattered thunderstorms across
    the area. These storms will have the benefit of a dual-jet streak
    setup aloft which when combined with the approach of a 500mb
    shortwave trough will help support thunderstorm clusters into
    Thursday night. Low-level easterly winds should lead to
    thunderstorm development over the Davis Mountains that could then
    propagate SE towards the Rio Grande Valley. With mean wind flow
    out of the west, any storms that may form over the Sierra Madre
    could also approach the Rio Grande River Thursday evening. As these
    initial round of storms generate cold pools, these new cold pools
    will invigorate additional clusters of storms Thursday night. Most
    areas will see at least some period of heavy rain, which will be
    capable of causing isolated instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    A complex upper-level evolution will begin on Thursday over the
    Northeast that is trending towards a more wet and stormy setup
    across the Northeast. An anti-cyclonic wave break over southeast
    Canada is splitting a lobe of the positively-tilted upper trough over
    southern Ontario into a cut-off low by Thursday night. Guidance
    remains split on how far west the blossoming shield of
    precipitation will advance, but most guidance is coming into a
    consensus on a swath of the Northeast that stems from central PA
    and the southern tier of NY on east into areas just west of I-95.
    The area of greatest concern lies in northeast PA and into the
    Catskills where soils have grown exceptionally sensitive over the
    past several days thanks to multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    As the upper low deepens Thursday night, strong 200-500mb upper
    level divergence will work in tandem with strengthening 850-700mb
    FGEN and WAA to generate an axis of heavy rainfall. Soundings
    between 06-12Z Fri show highly saturated profiles and warm cloud
    layers as deep as 9,000ft deep closer to I-95. As of this
    discussion, 6-hr FFGs were as low as 1.00" along the northeast
    PA/NY state borders. While some recovery is expected, this
    highlights that it may not take much more than one inch of rainfall
    in 6 hours to cause flash flooding. For these reasons, a Slight
    Risk was introduced over parts of the Poconos and Catskills where
    there is a decent compromise for higher QPF and where soils are
    most sensitive.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    An amplifying and large upper low positioned over the Lower MS
    Valley will linger over the region through Friday night with heavy
    rainfall likely from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast.
    Latest trends in guidance has been to sharpen up a 500mb low over
    the Lower MS Valley. The ECMWF SATs page shows an IVT >400 kg/m/s
    which is above the 90th climatological percentile. Soundings in the
    region also show highly saturated profiles, modest instability,
    and deep warm cloud layers. This combined with sufficient vertical
    wind shear to help sustain areas of organized thunderstorms is
    increasing the threat for Excessive Rainfall over the central Gulf
    Coast and FL Panhandle. This setup remains fluid given the recent
    trends in guidance to be wetter over the central Gulf Coast, with
    the EC- AIFS and GFS GraphCast showing similar trends. Given the
    growing soil sensitivities in the central Gulf Coast, the latest
    Day 3 ERO update now includes a Slight Risk. The more urbanized
    swath of the I-10 corridor is most at-risk for potential flash
    flooding on Friday.

    ...Northeast...

    The upper-low evolution stated in the Day 2 discussion holds true
    for Friday but unlike Day 2 when the heavy rain threat is confined
    to a 6 to at most 12 hour window, the Excessive Rainfall threat
    will impact not just the daytime hours on Friday but into Friday
    night. Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing a
    strengthening IVT surpassing 500 kg/m/s off the Northeast coast
    that will transport copious amounts of moisture into the Northeast.
    Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the 500mb low into
    northern NY and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector
    will feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk was not issued as of this forecast cycle. However,
    given trends in guidance are all pointing towards a cut-off low
    over the Northeast and soils throughout the region are highly
    sensitive, there may be the need for a Slight Risk upgrade in
    future forecast updates once confidence increases in where the
    heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Mullinax


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-xxYvunSc3Nypsta0TXHvLCSiCxTYI1O_OyeXRoXL0dr= ui9U3MZ8KuYCfjIueHdXVuP3fMheFfFlMvYKQoIMnGoSM_Y$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-xxYvunSc3Nypsta0TXHvLCSiCxTYI1O_OyeXRoXL0dr= ui9U3MZ8KuYCfjIueHdXVuP3fMheFfFlMvYKQoIMK2bVtCQ$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-xxYvunSc3Nypsta0TXHvLCSiCxTYI1O_OyeXRoXL0dr= ui9U3MZ8KuYCfjIueHdXVuP3fMheFfFlMvYKQoIMpM95tVg$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed May 7 20:22:21 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 072021
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    421 PM EDT Wed May 7 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed May 07 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    SOUTHERN LOUISIANA/MISSISSIPPI, FLORIDA/GEORGIA COAST AND FOR
    PORTIONS OF THE PLAINS/MID-MISSISSIPPI AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS...

    ...Gulf Coast...

    18Z Update... The heaviest rainfall has now pushed firmly off the
    Central Gulf coast with the theta_E alignment now running parallel,
    offshore of the coastal plain leading to remnant stratiform
    precipitation across Southeast LA. Some pockets of moderate to
    heavy rain are still plausible south of the I-10 corridor over LA
    leaving a low-end MRGL in place for the rest of the afternoon
    before the event fully subsides. Considering the above factors and
    limitations on the potential, the previous SLGT and MDT risks were
    removed in coordination with the local WFO with a small MRGL in
    place to cover for the remaining precip bands moving over the
    region.

    Kleebauer

    16Z update... The cluster of convection has mostly progressed out
    of Texas with intensity decreasing over western Louisiana noted as
    well. As such, the Marginal Risk area was reduced to the Galveston
    area and points east. The Slight Risk was trimmed out of southwest
    Louisiana. Currently there is a squall line over the central Gulf
    that will continue to impact south-central and southeast Louisiana
    over the next few hours. A Moderate Risk was already in place
    however was adjusted to include the city of New Orleans. The
    progressive nature of this convection may warrant a special update
    to address the reduction of threat for flash flooding as the storms
    dissipate and/or move out of the area.

    Campbell

    The warm front that lifted through the Upper Texas coast has
    stalled along the Gulf Coast and be the focus for widespread
    showers and thunderstorms through this morning. PWs remain above
    the 97.5 climatological percentiles from the Upper TX coast to
    southern LA. The flash flood threat remains greatest along the
    central Gulf Coast and Lower MS Valley regions where they are most
    commonly positioned at the nose of a >500 kg/m/s IVT and PWs that
    are approaching 2.0" along the LA coast. RAP soundings in southern
    LA Wednesday morning show low-mid level RH values >90% and warm
    cloud layers at least 11,000ft deep. These soundings also depict
    tall "skinny CAPE" profiles with MLCAPE >500 J/kg. Plus, hodographs
    still suggest the potential for organized convection given modest
    mid-level shear and low-level helicity (sfc-3km >100 m2/s2). The
    SWrly IVT will intersect the stalled frontal boundary in a way that
    supports training and back-building convection producing highly
    efficient rainfall rates >2"/hr over soils that are increasingly
    saturated. This supports the lingering presence of the Moderate
    Risk in southern LA through the first half of the day. Note that
    most model guidance has the bulk of the Day 1 Excessive Rainfall
    threat during the morning hours. There may still be some residual
    thunderstorm activity through the afternoon, but most guidance
    suggests the bulk of the flash flood threat should wind down some
    for the second half of the day.

    Further to the west, the Slight Risk remains in place for the
    Houston metro given the greater urbanization and susceptibility to
    flash flooding. There is the potential for another round of storms
    this afternoon that will track over a similar area that was hit by
    heavy rainfall yesterday, but any lingering flash flood threat
    should begin to wind down after sunset.

    ...Central Plains & Mid-South...

    The lingering mid-upper level low circulation of the Central
    Plains will funnel a narrow swath of 700-300mb moisture along the
    northern flank of the low, while weak 850mb FGEN and WAA over the
    Mid-South. Despite the lack of modest instability, RAP soundings
    show >90% saturated sfc-700mb profiles and warm cloud layers up to
    9,000ft deep in some cases. With modest upper-level and mesoscale
    forcing present, as well as ample low-mid level moisture, efficient
    rainfall over saturated soils in parts of the region could result
    in additional areas of flash flooding. Aside from minor tweaks to
    the area given the latest QPF, the Marginal Risk remains on track.

    ...Georgia and northeast Florida...

    16Z update... The latest CAMs have trended the convection a bit
    further north placing them from northeast Florida up the coast
    toward the South Carolina/Georgia line. Georgia was previously not
    included in the Marginal Risk area and has now been added. Portions
    of the central Florida coast was removed from the Marginal as well.

    Campbell

    A small Marginal Risk remains in place for urbanized portions of
    the I-95 corridor through north Florida along the Space Coast. A
    stalled out cold front to the north and typical sea breeze cycles
    will trigger rounds of thunderstorms that will have unusually high
    PWs available by early May climo in eastern FL. PWs are generally
    above 1.75" in northern FL, which is above the 97.5 climatological
    percentile according to ECMWF SATs. 00Z RAP soundings for
    Wednesday afternoon show highly saturated profiles (>90% within
    the sfc-500mb layer), skinny CAPE soundings with >1,000 J/kg of
    MLCAPE, and warm cloud layers of at least 12,000ft deep. Most
    rainfall will be a welcome sight for the region with severe to
    extreme drought having set in. However, the soils are so dry that
    rainfall rates >2"/hr would prove too much for the sandy soils of
    northern FL to handle, let alone the more urbanized corridor along
    I-95. Isolated instances of flash flooding are possible, with the
    more urbanized communities most at-risk.

    Mullinax

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE SLIGHT RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST & THE NORTHEAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    21Z update... The environment will be primed for scattered to
    widespread convection capable of producing rainfall rates of 0.50
    inch/hr or higher. There is a decent amount of variance within the
    guidance on where the higher amounts are expected to occur however
    there was a notable decrease in amount for portions of the Lower
    Mississippi Valley while an increase across parts of the Tennessee Valley/Appalachians/Southeast. The Marginal Risk area was trimmed
    out of much of the Lower Mississippi Valley and increased to cover
    much of Kentucky and western portions of Virginia, North Carolina,
    South Carolina and Georgia.

    Campbell

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In
    addition to what is still a moist air-mass for early May, there
    will be the added assistance of an approaching positively-tilted
    500mb trough to provide additional upper-level support. The central
    Gulf Coast remains most susceptible to flash flooding given their
    closer positioning to a >400 kg/m/s IVT and PWs above 1.75". These
    favorable atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly
    sensitive soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall.
    The Slight Risk remains in place over a small section of the
    Central Gulf Coast, while the expansive Marginal Risk that
    stretches from the Ozarks to as far east as the Southeast coast
    still looks to be in good shape given the dearth of moisture in
    place ahead of the approaching cold front and sufficient
    instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL Space Coast is
    also at risk for flash flooding given the similar setup to
    Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following any
    thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding is
    possible, most notably in the region's more urbanized communities
    and where PWs are highest.

    ...Deep South Texas...

    21Z update... Environment described below still expected so no
    major changes made for this issuance.

    Campbell

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in scattered thunderstorms across
    the area. These storms will have the benefit of a dual-jet streak
    setup aloft which when combined with the approach of a 500mb
    shortwave trough will help support thunderstorm clusters into
    Thursday night. Low-level easterly winds should lead to
    thunderstorm development over the Davis Mountains that could then
    propagate SE towards the Rio Grande Valley. With mean wind flow
    out of the west, any storms that may form over the Sierra Madre
    could also approach the Rio Grande River Thursday evening. As these
    initial round of storms generate cold pools, these new cold pools
    will invigorate additional clusters of storms Thursday night. Most
    areas will see at least some period of heavy rain, which will be
    capable of causing isolated instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    21Z update... The latest WPC QPF and model trends had a small
    uptick in QPF, particularly in the northeast
    Pennsylvania/northwest New Jersey/southeast New York corridor.=20
    With this increase the SLight Risk was adjusted further east across
    northwest New Jersey. The Marginal Risk saw a minor southward=20
    expansion across northern Virginia.

    Campbell

    A complex upper-level evolution will begin on Thursday over the
    Northeast that is trending towards a more wet and stormy setup
    across the Northeast. An anti-cyclonic wave break over southeast
    Canada is splitting a lobe of the positively-tilted upper trough over
    southern Ontario into a cut-off low by Thursday night. Guidance
    remains split on how far west the blossoming shield of
    precipitation will advance, but most guidance is coming into a
    consensus on a swath of the Northeast that stems from central PA
    and the southern tier of NY on east into areas just west of I-95.
    The area of greatest concern lies in northeast PA and into the
    Catskills where soils have grown exceptionally sensitive over the
    past several days thanks to multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    As the upper low deepens Thursday night, strong 200-500mb upper
    level divergence will work in tandem with strengthening 850-700mb
    FGEN and WAA to generate an axis of heavy rainfall. Soundings
    between 06-12Z Fri show highly saturated profiles and warm cloud
    layers as deep as 9,000ft deep closer to I-95. As of this
    discussion, 6-hr FFGs were as low as 1.00" along the northeast
    PA/NY state borders. While some recovery is expected, this
    highlights that it may not take much more than one inch of rainfall
    in 6 hours to cause flash flooding. For these reasons, a Slight
    Risk was introduced over parts of the Poconos and Catskills where
    there is a decent compromise for higher QPF and where soils are
    most sensitive.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    21Z update... The latest guidance and WPC QPF shifted the focus
    from far southeast Louisiana to the South Carolina/Georgia coast
    with the greatest amounts from the vicinity of the Mobile metro and
    across the Florida Panhandle. The Slight Risk area now spans from
    about Panama Beach to about Biloxi, Mississippi. The Marginal Risk
    covers southeast Louisiana to southern Carolina and south towards
    Melbourne, Florida.

    Campbell

    An amplifying and large upper low positioned over the Lower MS
    Valley will linger over the region through Friday night with heavy
    rainfall likely from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast.
    Latest trends in guidance has been to sharpen up a 500mb low over
    the Lower MS Valley. The ECMWF SATs page shows an IVT >400 kg/m/s
    which is above the 90th climatological percentile. Soundings in the
    region also show highly saturated profiles, modest instability,
    and deep warm cloud layers. This combined with sufficient vertical
    wind shear to help sustain areas of organized thunderstorms is
    increasing the threat for Excessive Rainfall over the central Gulf
    Coast and FL Panhandle. This setup remains fluid given the recent
    trends in guidance to be wetter over the central Gulf Coast, with
    the EC- AIFS and GFS GraphCast showing similar trends. Given the
    growing soil sensitivities in the central Gulf Coast, the latest
    Day 3 ERO update now includes a Slight Risk. The more urbanized
    swath of the I-10 corridor is most at-risk for potential flash
    flooding on Friday.

    ...Northeast...

    21Z update... No change to the Marginal Risk.

    Campbell

    The upper-low evolution stated in the Day 2 discussion holds true
    for Friday but unlike Day 2 when the heavy rain threat is confined
    to a 6 to at most 12 hour window, the Excessive Rainfall threat
    will impact not just the daytime hours on Friday but into Friday
    night. Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing a
    strengthening IVT surpassing 500 kg/m/s off the Northeast coast
    that will transport copious amounts of moisture into the Northeast.
    Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the 500mb low into
    northern NY and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector
    will feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk was not issued as of this forecast cycle. However,
    given trends in guidance are all pointing towards a cut-off low
    over the Northeast and soils throughout the region are highly
    sensitive, there may be the need for a Slight Risk upgrade in
    future forecast updates once confidence increases in where the
    heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Mullinax


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7tE46n9HqgDmVwrXeeKSrhIgz1yp6awya2ioABXHbL_F= y8eUJtxAQBizljDEKpOnKDLEobFFTdEODrqbKpomBSQM-fU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7tE46n9HqgDmVwrXeeKSrhIgz1yp6awya2ioABXHbL_F= y8eUJtxAQBizljDEKpOnKDLEobFFTdEODrqbKpom4a6cf34$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7tE46n9HqgDmVwrXeeKSrhIgz1yp6awya2ioABXHbL_F= y8eUJtxAQBizljDEKpOnKDLEobFFTdEODrqbKpomIbfMlCA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 080040
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    840 PM EDT Wed May 7 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Thu May 08 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COAST...

    Previous MRGL risk across the Southeast has decreased in size with
    a more focused area across Northeast FL where low-level convergence
    along a quasi-stationary front draped over the region has allowed
    for a repeating thunderstorm setup south of the Jacksonville metro.
    Recent mesoanalysis indicates a sharp theta_E gradient within the
    corridor mirroring the front with mean flow aligned parallel to the
    boundary. SBCAPE between 1000-1500 J/kg is located within the
    bounds of the area of interest with much of the convective
    redevelopment occurring on the western flank of a passing mid-level perturbation that is currently situated over the region. As the
    energy wanders east, we'll see a sharp cut off the convective
    threat with the remainder of the activity weakening due to lack of
    sufficient forcing aloft, as well as the loss of diurnal heat
    flux. This is a short term issue with the first 2-4 hrs. being the
    primary time frame of interest before conditions improve overnight.
    FFG's are thankfully very high within each 1/3/6 hr. intervals
    (4/5/6 inches) respectively for each exceedance marker, so not
    anticipating much outside a threat for isolated flash flooding,
    mainly within the confines of I-95 between Jacksonville to Saint
    Augustine.=20

    Across the Mid-Mississippi Valley, a meander ULL will contribute to
    widespread showers and elevated convective concerns overnight
    culminating in a small axis of heavier precip across the east-
    central portion of MO where low to mid-level convergence and deeper
    moisture profiles will be present. Despite the better alignment for
    heavier precip, the maximum rate potential is capped due to the
    lack of an anomalous PWAT presence that typically is necessary this
    time of year for higher impacts. An isolated flash flood threat is
    still plausible across the area extending along and south of I-70
    from Jefferson City across to St. Louis and north of the Ozarks of
    Southeast MO. The threat is non-zero, but under 5% for the
    necessary risk threshold, so decided to maintain a nil, but make
    mention of the very low-end potential where total rainfall will
    likely reach between 1-2", but rates will be lacking for sufficient
    flash flood concerns.=20

    Kleebauer

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE SLIGHT RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST & THE NORTHEAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    21Z update... The environment will be primed for scattered to
    widespread convection capable of producing rainfall rates of 0.50
    inch/hr or higher. There is a decent amount of variance within the
    guidance on where the higher amounts are expected to occur however
    there was a notable decrease in amount for portions of the Lower
    Mississippi Valley while an increase across parts of the Tennessee Valley/Appalachians/Southeast. The Marginal Risk area was trimmed
    out of much of the Lower Mississippi Valley and increased to cover
    much of Kentucky and western portions of Virginia, North Carolina,
    South Carolina and Georgia.

    Campbell

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In
    addition to what is still a moist air-mass for early May, there
    will be the added assistance of an approaching positively-tilted
    500mb trough to provide additional upper-level support. The central
    Gulf Coast remains most susceptible to flash flooding given their
    closer positioning to a >400 kg/m/s IVT and PWs above 1.75". These
    favorable atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly
    sensitive soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall.
    The Slight Risk remains in place over a small section of the
    Central Gulf Coast, while the expansive Marginal Risk that
    stretches from the Ozarks to as far east as the Southeast coast
    still looks to be in good shape given the dearth of moisture in
    place ahead of the approaching cold front and sufficient
    instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL Space Coast is
    also at risk for flash flooding given the similar setup to
    Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following any
    thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding is
    possible, most notably in the region's more urbanized communities
    and where PWs are highest.

    ...Deep South Texas...

    21Z update... Environment described below still expected so no
    major changes made for this issuance.

    Campbell

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in scattered thunderstorms across
    the area. These storms will have the benefit of a dual-jet streak
    setup aloft which when combined with the approach of a 500mb
    shortwave trough will help support thunderstorm clusters into
    Thursday night. Low-level easterly winds should lead to
    thunderstorm development over the Davis Mountains that could then
    propagate SE towards the Rio Grande Valley. With mean wind flow
    out of the west, any storms that may form over the Sierra Madre
    could also approach the Rio Grande River Thursday evening. As these
    initial round of storms generate cold pools, these new cold pools
    will invigorate additional clusters of storms Thursday night. Most
    areas will see at least some period of heavy rain, which will be
    capable of causing isolated instances of flash flooding.

    ...Northeast...

    21Z update... The latest WPC QPF and model trends had a small
    uptick in QPF, particularly in the northeast
    Pennsylvania/northwest New Jersey/southeast New York corridor.
    With this increase the SLight Risk was adjusted further east across
    northwest New Jersey. The Marginal Risk saw a minor southward
    expansion across northern Virginia.

    Campbell

    A complex upper-level evolution will begin on Thursday over the
    Northeast that is trending towards a more wet and stormy setup
    across the Northeast. An anti-cyclonic wave break over southeast
    Canada is splitting a lobe of the positively-tilted upper trough over
    southern Ontario into a cut-off low by Thursday night. Guidance
    remains split on how far west the blossoming shield of
    precipitation will advance, but most guidance is coming into a
    consensus on a swath of the Northeast that stems from central PA
    and the southern tier of NY on east into areas just west of I-95.
    The area of greatest concern lies in northeast PA and into the
    Catskills where soils have grown exceptionally sensitive over the
    past several days thanks to multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    As the upper low deepens Thursday night, strong 200-500mb upper
    level divergence will work in tandem with strengthening 850-700mb
    FGEN and WAA to generate an axis of heavy rainfall. Soundings
    between 06-12Z Fri show highly saturated profiles and warm cloud
    layers as deep as 9,000ft deep closer to I-95. As of this
    discussion, 6-hr FFGs were as low as 1.00" along the northeast
    PA/NY state borders. While some recovery is expected, this
    highlights that it may not take much more than one inch of rainfall
    in 6 hours to cause flash flooding. For these reasons, a Slight
    Risk was introduced over parts of the Poconos and Catskills where
    there is a decent compromise for higher QPF and where soils are
    most sensitive.

    Mullinax

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    21Z update... The latest guidance and WPC QPF shifted the focus
    from far southeast Louisiana to the South Carolina/Georgia coast
    with the greatest amounts from the vicinity of the Mobile metro and
    across the Florida Panhandle. The Slight Risk area now spans from
    about Panama Beach to about Biloxi, Mississippi. The Marginal Risk
    covers southeast Louisiana to southern Carolina and south towards
    Melbourne, Florida.

    Campbell

    An amplifying and large upper low positioned over the Lower MS
    Valley will linger over the region through Friday night with heavy
    rainfall likely from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast.
    Latest trends in guidance has been to sharpen up a 500mb low over
    the Lower MS Valley. The ECMWF SATs page shows an IVT >400 kg/m/s
    which is above the 90th climatological percentile. Soundings in the
    region also show highly saturated profiles, modest instability,
    and deep warm cloud layers. This combined with sufficient vertical
    wind shear to help sustain areas of organized thunderstorms is
    increasing the threat for Excessive Rainfall over the central Gulf
    Coast and FL Panhandle. This setup remains fluid given the recent
    trends in guidance to be wetter over the central Gulf Coast, with
    the EC- AIFS and GFS GraphCast showing similar trends. Given the
    growing soil sensitivities in the central Gulf Coast, the latest
    Day 3 ERO update now includes a Slight Risk. The more urbanized
    swath of the I-10 corridor is most at-risk for potential flash
    flooding on Friday.

    ...Northeast...

    21Z update... No change to the Marginal Risk.

    Campbell

    The upper-low evolution stated in the Day 2 discussion holds true
    for Friday but unlike Day 2 when the heavy rain threat is confined
    to a 6 to at most 12 hour window, the Excessive Rainfall threat
    will impact not just the daytime hours on Friday but into Friday
    night. Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing a
    strengthening IVT surpassing 500 kg/m/s off the Northeast coast
    that will transport copious amounts of moisture into the Northeast.
    Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the 500mb low into
    northern NY and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector
    will feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk was not issued as of this forecast cycle. However,
    given trends in guidance are all pointing towards a cut-off low
    over the Northeast and soils throughout the region are highly
    sensitive, there may be the need for a Slight Risk upgrade in
    future forecast updates once confidence increases in where the
    heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Mullinax


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_am5OHjYaZmuCH5B8StQ0M0XhPLNd5D_Ws20iUqH8k49= pf8Vsom56RFmmAxlq9m8LBMQV-5Qk9FrEMs2hFRyePqx1Ss$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_am5OHjYaZmuCH5B8StQ0M0XhPLNd5D_Ws20iUqH8k49= pf8Vsom56RFmmAxlq9m8LBMQV-5Qk9FrEMs2hFRyb4biIzs$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_am5OHjYaZmuCH5B8StQ0M0XhPLNd5D_Ws20iUqH8k49= pf8Vsom56RFmmAxlq9m8LBMQV-5Qk9FrEMs2hFRyuzJQg6Q$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 080733
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    333 AM EDT Thu May 8 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTH TEXAS=20
    & PORTIONS OF THE NORTHEAST...


    ...Deep South Texas...
    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet=20
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in organized thunderstorms that
    are likely to form across the mountains of northeast Mexico and
    move across the area. With 700 hPa temperatures around 9C, the
    environment shouldn't be prohibitively capped, so there's little
    reason to expect the storms to fade as they move through South TX.
    Hourly rain amounts to 2.5" with local amounts to 5" are expected.
    After coordination with the CRP/Corpus Christi TX and BRO/=20
    Brownsville TX forecast offices, raised a Slight Risk for the=20
    region.


    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...
    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to=20
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In=20
    addition to what is still a moist air mass, there will be the=20
    added assistance of an approaching upper level trough to provide=20
    additional divergence/support. The central Gulf Coast remains most
    susceptible to flash flooding given their closer positioning to the precipitable water values of 1.5-1.75". These favorable=20
    atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly sensitive=20
    soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall. The Slight=20
    Risk was removed from southeast Louisiana where the QPF/recent=20
    heavy rainfall pattern no longer overlaps, while the Marginal Risk=20
    remains -- which shows some contraction -- given the precipitable
    water values of 1.25-1.5" ahead of the approaching cold front and=20
    sufficient instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL=20
    Space Coast is also at risk for flash flooding given the similar=20
    setup to Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following
    any thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding=20
    is possible, most notably in the region's more urban areas.


    ...Northeast...
    A complex upper-level evolution will begin on Thursday over the=20
    Northeast, portending a wet and stormy setup. An anticyclonic wave
    break over southeast Canada is splitting a lobe of the positively-
    tilted upper trough over southern Ontario into a cold low by=20
    Thursday night. Guidance remains split on how far west the=20
    blossoming shield of precipitation will advance, but most guidance=20
    is coming into a consensus on a swath of the Northeast that stems=20
    from eastern PA into southern NY. The greatest concern lies near=20
    the PA/NJ border per the 00z HREF guidance. Soils have grown=20
    exceptionally sensitive over the past several days thanks to=20
    multiple rounds of heavy rainfall for portions of the Northeast.=20
    The Slight Risk was shifted southwest from continuity to the NJ/PA
    border in deference to the 00z HREF, though model spread in=20
    amounts and locations remains.

    Roth/Mullinax



    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...
    A large upper low positioned over the Lower MS Valley will linger=20
    over the region through Friday night with heavy rainfall possible=20
    from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast. Precipitable=20
    values of 1.5-1.75" are forecast, implying nearly saturated=20
    soundings. Effective bulk shear could be sufficient to help=20
    sustain areas of organized thunderstorms. There is wide variance in
    the QPF output from the various pieces of guidance, and most of=20
    the guidance isn't terribly wet, so have kept the excessive=20
    rainfall risk level at Marginal.


    ...Northeast...
    Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing strengthening=20
    onshore flow which would transport copious amounts of moisture into
    the Northeast. Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the
    500 hPa low into a potential comma head pattern across northern NY
    and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector will=20
    feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could=20
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread=20
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a=20
    Slight Risk remains unadded. However, given trends in guidance are=20
    all pointing towards a cut-off low over the Northeast and soils=20
    throughout the region are highly sensitive, there may be the need=20
    for a Slight Risk upgrade in future forecast updates once=20
    confidence increases in where the heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Roth/Mullinax



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    Southeast...
    A cold low drops down to the Gulf coast with time, spurring a
    development of a low vaguely near the Loop Current. Despite good
    agreement aloft, there is a definite difference in the guidance in
    lower levels, with the 00z NAM a bit north of the 00z GFS at 850
    hPa. This sort of pattern usually leads to a semi-convective low=20
    near the Loop Current which then moves northeast towards the=20
    Florida Panhandle or Big Bend, though the low's approach to the=20
    region looks more evident on Sunday or so/beyond the day 3 period.=20
    Some of the guidance has a decent QPF signal near the FL Big Bend,=20
    generally agreeing on 2-3" areal average, but it there is a bit of=20 dispersion. It appears the 850 hPa boundary is still down in the=20
    Gulf much of the day. However, there could be enough moisture,
    instability, and effective bulk shear for issues in northern FL.=20
    For the moment, the Marginal Risk area remains in place due to the=20 dispersion seen in the guidance.


    Northeast...
    The guidance has a signal for moderate to heavy rainfall across
    portions of New England over an area of relatively low flash flood
    guidance values. This is near and ahead of a cold low racing
    through the area. Precipitable water values rise to 1-1.25", which
    given the cool 1000-500 hPa thickness values, should lead to
    saturation. Given the strong 500 hPa height falls during the
    afternoon hours, some instability is bound to be available. Added a
    Marginal Risk area per the above. Per coordination with
    CAR/the Caribou ME forecast office. left northern ME out as the=20
    seven day rainfall across the state shows a fairly strong gradient,
    with northern ME generally left out of the recent rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7v9JPvkIyyRTy6XHpLEbvDs5_GWZR82gqjJuoFfttlxx= dkYmLfy9OaedTOk7Fb9ykPYpxcB23V4AInY2IggOQ6Ybs78$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7v9JPvkIyyRTy6XHpLEbvDs5_GWZR82gqjJuoFfttlxx= dkYmLfy9OaedTOk7Fb9ykPYpxcB23V4AInY2IggO7RvSGOw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7v9JPvkIyyRTy6XHpLEbvDs5_GWZR82gqjJuoFfttlxx= dkYmLfy9OaedTOk7Fb9ykPYpxcB23V4AInY2IggOxT5cyFk$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 081553
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1153 AM EDT Thu May 8 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTH TEXAS...


    ...Deep South Texas...

    16Z Update: Little change with the overall expectations across Deep
    South TX. Still looking at primary impacts from two rounds of
    convection. The first is already occurring with a strong
    thunderstorm slowly progressing eastward off South Padre as the
    updraft and primary mesocyclone matured enough to drop a few inches
    of rainfall in short succession along the South TX coast plain past
    few hrs. 12z KBRO sounding came in with a deep moist profile with
    PWATs settled at 2.15" putting it at the new 12z Daily Max for the
    date. This is a testament to the environment available for any
    convective regimes whether that be from more pulse variety
    convection this morning and afternoon, and eventual MCS progression
    as the potent shortwave ejects southeast out of MX generating a
    more organized heavy rain prospect from the Big Bend, southeast.
    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >3" are between 60-90% over the
    area extending from CRP down to BRO to about 40 miles inland along
    that stripe. Neighborhood >5" are highest near Brownsville to
    McAllen (30-60%) lending credence to the higher flash flood threat
    in the region, especially in those more urbanized corridors along
    the Rio Grande Valley. The previous SLGT was relatively unchanged
    considering the setup, in agreement with the local WFO's.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in organized thunderstorms that
    are likely to form across the mountains of northeast Mexico and
    move across the area. With 700 hPa temperatures around 9C, the
    environment shouldn't be prohibitively capped, so there's little
    reason to expect the storms to fade as they move through South TX.
    Hourly rain amounts to 2.5" with local amounts to 5" are expected.
    After coordination with the CRP/Corpus Christi TX and BRO/
    Brownsville TX forecast offices, raised a Slight Risk for the
    region.

    Roth

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    16Z Update: Only minor changes were made for the inherited MRGL=20
    risk across the Gulf Coast to the eastern FL Peninsula. Convective
    pattern across the Central Gulf Coast will likely be tied to the
    immediate coastal areas where the greatest convergence will align
    with a frontal approach from the north coinciding with the remnant
    stationary front positioned just off the LA/MS coast. The previous
    MRGL was removed out of LA due to the threat likely to remain
    either off the coast, or fall over the Southern Parishes south of
    the urban corridor a bit further north. Southern Parishes are much
    less prone to flash flood threats due to soil types and swamp
    environments. Trends have focused away from the area of most
    concern, so the MRGL risk was removed due to a non-zero, but sub-
    threshold threat.=20

    Across FL, thunderstorms will develop this afternoon along the sea
    breeze with some anchoring influence over the Northeast FL coast
    due to the presence of the stationary front. Rates will peak at
    2-3"/hr max leading to more isolated flash flood concerns mainly
    within the urban corridor along the Space Coast. Coverage of
    thunderstorms will be scattered in nature leading to a more MRGL
    risk for flash flooding when coupled with the expected magnitudes,
    thus the previous risk was generally maintained.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to=20
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In=20
    addition to what is still a moist air mass, there will be the added
    assistance of an approaching upper level trough to provide=20
    additional divergence/support. The central Gulf Coast remains most=20 susceptible to flash flooding given their closer positioning to the precipitable water values of 1.5-1.75". These favorable=20
    atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly sensitive=20
    soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall. The Slight=20
    Risk was removed from southeast Louisiana where the QPF/recent=20
    heavy rainfall pattern no longer overlaps, while the Marginal Risk=20
    remains -- which shows some contraction -- given the precipitable=20
    water values of 1.25-1.5" ahead of the approaching cold front and=20
    sufficient instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL=20
    Space Coast is also at risk for flash flooding given the similar=20
    setup to Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following
    any thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding=20
    is possible, most notably in the region's more urban areas.

    Roth

    ...Northeast...

    16Z Update: The previous SLGT risk inherited was downgraded due to
    a bit of a degraded convective output from 12z CAMs and associated
    HREF signaling a more isolated flash flood concern this afternoon
    with the primary focus within the urban zones of Northeast PA and
    Northwest NJ. Cold front progression is slowly sinking south with
    small theta_E ribbon bisecting the above area aligning with a
    stalled boundary in place. Once the cold front approaches and mid-
    level ascent pattern builds within the LER of an approaching speed
    max to the south, expecting scattered convection to initiate across
    Northeast PA with mean storm motions pushing any activity in
    Northern NJ and the Lower Hudson of NY. Activity will be slower
    moving in general which does favor the flash flood prospects in one
    regard, but the deterrent for anything appreciable is the limited
    deep layer moisture to work with as the PWAT anomalies are running
    pretty normal for the time of year. HREF hourly probs for >1"/hr
    are highest (30-50%) over a short window between 18-23z before the
    setup shifts and we begin to focus more on the evolving surface=20
    cyclogenesis pattern to the south that will usher more=20
    precipitation into the region. This scheme will be more stratiform=20
    in nature with some embedded thunder possible across the Mid-=20
    Atlantic up to around I-80 latitude. Some areas that see convective
    threat earlier in the day will see more rain overnight, so some=20
    initial priming could allow for a localized flood threat overnight,
    but the lack of a true convective element will likely yield more=20
    low-end potential than anything else.=20

    In coordination with the local WFO's that were previously within
    the SLGT, the risk was dropped with a solid MRGL remaining for the
    dual threat this period with emphasis on what occurs this afternoon
    and early evening.=20

    Kleebauer

    ...Ohio Valley...

    Slow-moving shortwave trough over the Mid-Mississippi Valley will=20
    wander eastward through the Ohio Valley promoting scattered showers
    and thunderstorms from MO all the way towards WV through the
    period. 12z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" of rainfall is=20
    actually pretty robust (>60%) in a corridor extending from St=20
    Louis to Louisville down to around Paducah. The key in all this is
    the matter of timing for all of this precip to fall with the=20
    majority of hourly rates likely capped ~1"/hr at peak intensity.=20
    Normally a MRGL risk wouldn't be considered for this type of=20
    threat, but moist antecedent soils for a large part of the Ohio=20
    Valley lean this closer to the MRGL risk. This helped maintain=20
    continuity with the isolated threat encompassing the area between=20
    I-70 to I-40 between the Mississippi River, east into WV.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...
    A large upper low positioned over the Lower MS Valley will linger
    over the region through Friday night with heavy rainfall possible
    from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast. Precipitable
    values of 1.5-1.75" are forecast, implying nearly saturated
    soundings. Effective bulk shear could be sufficient to help
    sustain areas of organized thunderstorms. There is wide variance in
    the QPF output from the various pieces of guidance, and most of
    the guidance isn't terribly wet, so have kept the excessive
    rainfall risk level at Marginal.


    ...Northeast...
    Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing strengthening
    onshore flow which would transport copious amounts of moisture into
    the Northeast. Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the
    500 hPa low into a potential comma head pattern across northern NY
    and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector will
    feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk remains un-added. However, given trends in guidance=20
    are all pointing towards a cut-off low over the Northeast and soils
    throughout the region are highly sensitive, there may be the need=20
    for a Slight Risk upgrade in future forecast updates once=20
    confidence increases in where the heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Roth/Mullinax



    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    Southeast...
    A cold low drops down to the Gulf coast with time, spurring a
    development of a low vaguely near the Loop Current. Despite good
    agreement aloft, there is a definite difference in the guidance in
    lower levels, with the 00z NAM a bit north of the 00z GFS at 850
    hPa. This sort of pattern usually leads to a semi-convective low
    near the Loop Current which then moves northeast towards the
    Florida Panhandle or Big Bend, though the low's approach to the
    region looks more evident on Sunday or so/beyond the day 3 period.
    Some of the guidance has a decent QPF signal near the FL Big Bend,
    generally agreeing on 2-3" areal average, but it there is a bit of
    dispersion. It appears the 850 hPa boundary is still down in the
    Gulf much of the day. However, there could be enough moisture,
    instability, and effective bulk shear for issues in northern FL.
    For the moment, the Marginal Risk area remains in place due to the
    dispersion seen in the guidance.


    Northeast...
    The guidance has a signal for moderate to heavy rainfall across
    portions of New England over an area of relatively low flash flood
    guidance values. This is near and ahead of a cold low racing
    through the area. Precipitable water values rise to 1-1.25", which
    given the cool 1000-500 hPa thickness values, should lead to
    saturation. Given the strong 500 hPa height falls during the
    afternoon hours, some instability is bound to be available. Added a
    Marginal Risk area per the above. Per coordination with
    CAR/the Caribou ME forecast office. left northern ME out as the
    seven day rainfall across the state shows a fairly strong gradient,
    with northern ME generally left out of the recent rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9OfXUaXY2oj5mqGSoIJFBndKY-_IqjnNaoednzHpVHxp= MzaBOREaAkaGYis9P5sStNrzyc3W5CHgZ37auQiN5DK7s3M$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9OfXUaXY2oj5mqGSoIJFBndKY-_IqjnNaoednzHpVHxp= MzaBOREaAkaGYis9P5sStNrzyc3W5CHgZ37auQiN11acNb4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9OfXUaXY2oj5mqGSoIJFBndKY-_IqjnNaoednzHpVHxp= MzaBOREaAkaGYis9P5sStNrzyc3W5CHgZ37auQiNZHMbaM8$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 081937
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    337 PM EDT Thu May 8 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Thu May 08 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTH TEXAS...


    ...Deep South Texas...

    16Z Update: Little change with the overall expectations across Deep
    South TX. Still looking at primary impacts from two rounds of
    convection. The first is already occurring with a strong
    thunderstorm slowly progressing eastward off South Padre as the
    updraft and primary mesocyclone matured enough to drop a few inches
    of rainfall in short succession along the South TX coast plain past
    few hrs. 12z KBRO sounding came in with a deep moist profile with
    PWATs settled at 2.15" putting it at the new 12z Daily Max for the
    date. This is a testament to the environment available for any
    convective regimes whether that be from more pulse variety
    convection this morning and afternoon, and eventual MCS progression
    as the potent shortwave ejects southeast out of MX generating a
    more organized heavy rain prospect from the Big Bend, southeast.
    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >3" are between 60-90% over the
    area extending from CRP down to BRO to about 40 miles inland along
    that stripe. Neighborhood >5" are highest near Brownsville to
    McAllen (30-60%) lending credence to the higher flash flood threat
    in the region, especially in those more urbanized corridors along
    the Rio Grande Valley. The previous SLGT was relatively unchanged
    considering the setup, in agreement with the local WFO's.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A strong cold front pushing south out of central Texas will meet
    up with Gulf moisture, resulting in organized thunderstorms that
    are likely to form across the mountains of northeast Mexico and
    move across the area. With 700 hPa temperatures around 9C, the
    environment shouldn't be prohibitively capped, so there's little
    reason to expect the storms to fade as they move through South TX.
    Hourly rain amounts to 2.5" with local amounts to 5" are expected.
    After coordination with the CRP/Corpus Christi TX and BRO/
    Brownsville TX forecast offices, raised a Slight Risk for the
    region.

    Roth

    ...Central Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    16Z Update: Only minor changes were made for the inherited MRGL
    risk across the Gulf Coast to the eastern FL Peninsula. Convective
    pattern across the Central Gulf Coast will likely be tied to the
    immediate coastal areas where the greatest convergence will align
    with a frontal approach from the north coinciding with the remnant
    stationary front positioned just off the LA/MS coast. The previous
    MRGL was removed out of LA due to the threat likely to remain
    either off the coast, or fall over the Southern Parishes south of
    the urban corridor a bit further north. Southern Parishes are much
    less prone to flash flood threats due to soil types and swamp
    environments. Trends have focused away from the area of most
    concern, so the MRGL risk was removed due to a non-zero, but sub-
    threshold threat.

    Across FL, thunderstorms will develop this afternoon along the sea
    breeze with some anchoring influence over the Northeast FL coast
    due to the presence of the stationary front. Rates will peak at
    2-3"/hr max leading to more isolated flash flood concerns mainly
    within the urban corridor along the Space Coast. Coverage of
    thunderstorms will be scattered in nature leading to a more MRGL
    risk for flash flooding when coupled with the expected magnitudes,
    thus the previous risk was generally maintained.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The stalled front draped north of the Gulf Coast will continue to
    act as a trigger for additional thunderstorms on Thursday. In
    addition to what is still a moist air mass, there will be the added
    assistance of an approaching upper level trough to provide
    additional divergence/support. The central Gulf Coast remains most
    susceptible to flash flooding given their closer positioning to the precipitable water values of 1.5-1.75". These favorable
    atmospheric parameters are on top of what are now highly sensitive
    soils following multiple days worth of heavy rainfall. The Slight
    Risk was removed from southeast Louisiana where the QPF/recent
    heavy rainfall pattern no longer overlaps, while the Marginal Risk
    remains -- which shows some contraction -- given the precipitable
    water values of 1.25-1.5" ahead of the approaching cold front and
    sufficient instability (MLCAPE between 500-1,500 J/kg). The FL
    Space Coast is also at risk for flash flooding given the similar
    setup to Wednesday and potential for more saturated soils following
    any thunderstorm activity on Wednesday. Localized flash flooding
    is possible, most notably in the region's more urban areas.

    Roth

    ...Northeast...

    16Z Update: The previous SLGT risk inherited was downgraded due to
    a bit of a degraded convective output from 12z CAMs and associated
    HREF signaling a more isolated flash flood concern this afternoon
    with the primary focus within the urban zones of Northeast PA and
    Northwest NJ. Cold front progression is slowly sinking south with
    small theta_E ribbon bisecting the above area aligning with a
    stalled boundary in place. Once the cold front approaches and mid-
    level ascent pattern builds within the LER of an approaching speed
    max to the south, expecting scattered convection to initiate across
    Northeast PA with mean storm motions pushing any activity in
    Northern NJ and the Lower Hudson of NY. Activity will be slower
    moving in general which does favor the flash flood prospects in one
    regard, but the deterrent for anything appreciable is the limited
    deep layer moisture to work with as the PWAT anomalies are running
    pretty normal for the time of year. HREF hourly probs for >1"/hr
    are highest (30-50%) over a short window between 18-23z before the
    setup shifts and we begin to focus more on the evolving surface
    cyclogenesis pattern to the south that will usher more
    precipitation into the region. This scheme will be more stratiform
    in nature with some embedded thunder possible across the Mid-
    Atlantic up to around I-80 latitude. Some areas that see convective
    threat earlier in the day will see more rain overnight, so some
    initial priming could allow for a localized flood threat overnight,
    but the lack of a true convective element will likely yield more
    low-end potential than anything else.

    In coordination with the local WFO's that were previously within
    the SLGT, the risk was dropped with a solid MRGL remaining for the
    dual threat this period with emphasis on what occurs this afternoon
    and early evening.

    Kleebauer

    ...Ohio Valley...

    Slow-moving shortwave trough over the Mid-Mississippi Valley will
    wander eastward through the Ohio Valley promoting scattered showers
    and thunderstorms from MO all the way towards WV through the
    period. 12z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" of rainfall is
    actually pretty robust (>60%) in a corridor extending from St
    Louis to Louisville down to around Paducah. The key in all this is
    the matter of timing for all of this precip to fall with the
    majority of hourly rates likely capped ~1"/hr at peak intensity.
    Normally a MRGL risk wouldn't be considered for this type of
    threat, but moist antecedent soils for a large part of the Ohio
    Valley lean this closer to the MRGL risk. This helped maintain
    continuity with the isolated threat encompassing the area between
    I-70 to I-40 between the Mississippi River, east into WV.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    20Z Update: The period remains pretty consistent in run to run QPF
    variance with the general convective threat across the=20
    Southeastern U.S. still anticipated with the main changes being the
    positioning of local maxima. 12z HREF remained steadfast on its=20 probabilistic outputs with an elevated EAS probs for >1" located=20
    across Southern MS/AL with lower probs elsewhere. The signal for=20
    2" is much lower (<10-20%) for anywhere within the area of=20
    interest meaning guidance still has a wide variance in where the=20
    strongest cells will materialize during the forecast cycle. The=20
    antecedent conditions are most favorable across Southeast LA where=20
    heavy rains in the prior periods have decreased areal FFG's to more
    attainable exceedance values. The rest of the Southeast is pretty=20
    much near normal for the 1/3/6 hr. FFG exceedance intervals leading
    to a higher rate threshold necessary to exhibit flash flooding.=20
    The best opportunity for a targeted upgrade will likely be within=20
    that corridor from Southeast LA through Southern MS/AL just given=20
    the location of highest theta_E's correlated with better upper jet=20
    dynamics in the form of a jet coupling between the mid-latitude jet
    trailing the cyclonic flow to the north and the southern jet=20
    streak focused to the south.=20

    Across the Northeast, total precip will remain firmly between 1-3"
    thanks to maturing mid-latitude cyclone moving northward off the
    Northeast coast with much of the Northern Mid Atlantic through New
    England well positioned within the LER of a strengthening upper
    speed max juxtaposed over the Central Mid Atlantic around the
    trough base. The total precip and intra-hour rates ~1"/hr will be
    the greatest factor for any flash flood prospects since the
    majority of the precip will likely be within a stratiform scheme
    during the peak of the event. Hi-res ensembles and overwhelming
    global deterministic outputs are generally modest with the
    anticipated rates over the most impacted areas. This is a stronger
    case for river and small stream flooding which is the reasoning for
    the widespread Flood Watch issuances and not so much the flash
    flood variety. If there was an upgrade, it would likely be very
    targeted within Southern New England where there is a better case
    for elevated instability within the WCB process generally over
    more urbanized zones. In any case, the threat is still within the=20
    lower risk threshold and has merit with the D2 ML First Guess=20
    Fields. The MRGL was relatively unchanged with a small expansion=20
    into the Philadelphia metro to cover for recent QPF trends.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...
    A large upper low positioned over the Lower MS Valley will linger
    over the region through Friday night with heavy rainfall possible
    from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast. Precipitable
    values of 1.5-1.75" are forecast, implying nearly saturated
    soundings. Effective bulk shear could be sufficient to help
    sustain areas of organized thunderstorms. There is wide variance in
    the QPF output from the various pieces of guidance, and most of
    the guidance isn't terribly wet, so have kept the excessive
    rainfall risk level at Marginal.


    ...Northeast...
    Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing strengthening
    onshore flow which would transport copious amounts of moisture into
    the Northeast. Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the
    500 hPa low into a potential comma head pattern across northern NY
    and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector will
    feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk remains un-added. However, given trends in guidance
    are all pointing towards a cut-off low over the Northeast and soils
    throughout the region are highly sensitive, there may be the need
    for a Slight Risk upgrade in future forecast updates once
    confidence increases in where the heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Roth/Mullinax


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    20Z Update: The main change this period was over the Northeastern
    U.S. MRGL risk were the southern edge was pulled a bit northward
    given the trends in QPF distribution. The ECMWF was one of the
    furthest south in terms of the heavier QPF placement over the past
    cycle of runs, however the ML disagreed with the assessment and had
    the heavier precip further north as the the low will move steadily
    northeast before occlusion. 12z ECMWF is now in line with the rest
    of the deterministic and subsequent ensembles and ML output=20
    leading to confidence in pulling the southern portion of the risk=20
    area further north. As for the general pattern, little has changed=20
    otherwise with the core of heaviest precip focused across ME where=20
    precip is very much welcomed in all locales given current drought.=20
    The MRGL risk was maintained due to the forecasted 1-2" rainfall=20
    forecast with some terrain focused areas and urbanized zones the=20
    most likely to see any hydro impacts.=20

    Across the Southeast, beginning to see a greater consensus on
    heavier precip entering near the Big Bend over Apalachicola
    National Forecast, an area that is notoriously hard to flood=20
    outside significant convective training and/or tropical influence.=20
    Current moisture advection regime off the Gulf is situated for a=20
    prolonged training threat within the eastern flank of the maturing=20
    surface low positioned directly over the Central Gulf Coast. Deep=20
    layer mean flow is progged to be due southerly across the entire=20
    Western FL Panhandle which could ultimately lead to a targeted SLGT
    risk issuance if the current setup stands. There's still a bit of=20 discrepancy on specifics with where the most prolific moisture=20
    transport will end up, but ensemble and ML depictions are close to=20
    that aforementioned area, but either a west or east displacement=20
    would cause differences in potential impacts as some larger=20
    population centers would get involved if the setup takes aim a bit=20
    more upstream. The MRGL is in place currently, but would not be=20
    surprised if a targeted upgrade is necessitated in future=20
    forecasts, especially once in range of the CAMs.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Southeast...
    A cold low drops down to the Gulf coast with time, spurring a
    development of a low vaguely near the Loop Current. Despite good
    agreement aloft, there is a definite difference in the guidance in
    lower levels, with the 00z NAM a bit north of the 00z GFS at 850
    hPa. This sort of pattern usually leads to a semi-convective low
    near the Loop Current which then moves northeast towards the
    Florida Panhandle or Big Bend, though the low's approach to the
    region looks more evident on Sunday or so/beyond the day 3 period.
    Some of the guidance has a decent QPF signal near the FL Big Bend,
    generally agreeing on 2-3" areal average, but it there is a bit of
    dispersion. It appears the 850 hPa boundary is still down in the
    Gulf much of the day. However, there could be enough moisture,
    instability, and effective bulk shear for issues in northern FL.
    For the moment, the Marginal Risk area remains in place due to the
    dispersion seen in the guidance.


    Northeast...
    The guidance has a signal for moderate to heavy rainfall across
    portions of New England over an area of relatively low flash flood
    guidance values. This is near and ahead of a cold low racing
    through the area. Precipitable water values rise to 1-1.25", which
    given the cool 1000-500 hPa thickness values, should lead to
    saturation. Given the strong 500 hPa height falls during the
    afternoon hours, some instability is bound to be available. Added a
    Marginal Risk area per the above. Per coordination with
    CAR/the Caribou ME forecast office. left northern ME out as the
    seven day rainfall across the state shows a fairly strong gradient,
    with northern ME generally left out of the recent rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9e0ivgDUQSmpeiHsC9Z4ao0Odhe0PPodDpnWDaAA71Nn= pBC4m93kIIEt_KgtYI2cTaCMOCoxnv_p-VN_KN2xykOWe1s$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9e0ivgDUQSmpeiHsC9Z4ao0Odhe0PPodDpnWDaAA71Nn= pBC4m93kIIEt_KgtYI2cTaCMOCoxnv_p-VN_KN2xHkBDkNc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9e0ivgDUQSmpeiHsC9Z4ao0Odhe0PPodDpnWDaAA71Nn= pBC4m93kIIEt_KgtYI2cTaCMOCoxnv_p-VN_KN2xSTUwr-Y$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri May 9 00:59:15 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 090059
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    859 PM EDT Thu May 8 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Fri May 09 2025

    ...THERE ARE A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTH TEXAS...

    ...Deep South Texas...

    16Z Update: Little change with the overall expectations across Deep
    South TX. Still looking at primary impacts from two rounds of
    convection. The first is already occurring with a strong
    thunderstorm slowly progressing eastward off South Padre as the
    updraft and primary mesocyclone matured enough to drop a few inches
    of rainfall in short succession along the South TX coast plain past
    few hrs. 12z KBRO sounding came in with a deep moist profile with
    PWATs settled at 2.15" putting it at the new 12z Daily Max for the
    date. This is a testament to the environment available for any
    convective regimes whether that be from more pulse variety
    convection this morning and afternoon, and eventual MCS progression
    as the potent shortwave ejects southeast out of MX generating a
    more organized heavy rain prospect from the Big Bend, southeast.
    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >3" are between 60-90% over the
    area extending from CRP down to BRO to about 40 miles inland along
    that stripe. Neighborhood >5" are highest near Brownsville to
    McAllen (30-60%) lending credence to the higher flash flood threat
    in the region, especially in those more urbanized corridors along
    the Rio Grande Valley. The previous SLGT was relatively unchanged
    considering the setup, in agreement with the local WFO's.

    Kleebauer

    ...Portions Lower Ohio Valley, Tennessee Valley, Southeast, Mid=20
    Atlantic, and Northeast...

    Trimmed quite a bit of the Marginal Risk area across these areas,
    given the weak mid-level lapse rates (~6-6.5 C/Km) and thus
    diminishing CAPE trends following sunset. Slow-moving, favorable
    area of large-scale forcing (DPVA/upper divergence) ahead of the=20
    upper trough will be aided across the Mid Atlantic overnight due to
    some left-exit region upper jet contribution via the 90-100kt upper
    jet streak that pushes into the Southeast. This will lead to
    slightly more favorable low-mid layer moisture transport, with
    850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies closer to 1 standard deviation
    above normal. Recent HRRR and other CAM runs show isolated pockets
    of 3+ inches of rain overnight, especially across Upstate SC into=20
    central NC, with 1-2+ inch totals over parts of VA/MD and the
    northern Mid Atlantic. However despite the favorable forcing and
    slow storm motions, expect the increasingly marginal instability
    to limit the coverage and intensity of the stronger cells,
    especially after 03-04Z per the 18Z HREF exceedance probabilities.


    Thus the Marginal Risk will continue, with the expectation of
    mainly isolated/localized short-term runoff issues, again aided by
    the slow storm motions and especially where any west-east bands=20
    set up and train.

    Hurley


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    20Z Update: The period remains pretty consistent in run to run QPF
    variance with the general convective threat across the
    Southeastern U.S. still anticipated with the main changes being the
    positioning of local maxima. 12z HREF remained steadfast on its
    probabilistic outputs with an elevated EAS probs for >1" located
    across Southern MS/AL with lower probs elsewhere. The signal for
    2" is much lower (<10-20%) for anywhere within the area of
    interest meaning guidance still has a wide variance in where the
    strongest cells will materialize during the forecast cycle. The
    antecedent conditions are most favorable across Southeast LA where
    heavy rains in the prior periods have decreased areal FFG's to more
    attainable exceedance values. The rest of the Southeast is pretty
    much near normal for the 1/3/6 hr. FFG exceedance intervals leading
    to a higher rate threshold necessary to exhibit flash flooding.
    The best opportunity for a targeted upgrade will likely be within
    that corridor from Southeast LA through Southern MS/AL just given
    the location of highest theta_E's correlated with better upper jet
    dynamics in the form of a jet coupling between the mid-latitude jet
    trailing the cyclonic flow to the north and the southern jet
    streak focused to the south.

    Across the Northeast, total precip will remain firmly between 1-3"
    thanks to maturing mid-latitude cyclone moving northward off the
    Northeast coast with much of the Northern Mid Atlantic through New
    England well positioned within the LER of a strengthening upper
    speed max juxtaposed over the Central Mid Atlantic around the
    trough base. The total precip and intra-hour rates ~1"/hr will be
    the greatest factor for any flash flood prospects since the
    majority of the precip will likely be within a stratiform scheme
    during the peak of the event. Hi-res ensembles and overwhelming
    global deterministic outputs are generally modest with the
    anticipated rates over the most impacted areas. This is a stronger
    case for river and small stream flooding which is the reasoning for
    the widespread Flood Watch issuances and not so much the flash
    flood variety. If there was an upgrade, it would likely be very
    targeted within Southern New England where there is a better case
    for elevated instability within the WCB process generally over
    more urbanized zones. In any case, the threat is still within the
    lower risk threshold and has merit with the D2 ML First Guess
    Fields. The MRGL was relatively unchanged with a small expansion
    into the Philadelphia metro to cover for recent QPF trends.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...
    A large upper low positioned over the Lower MS Valley will linger
    over the region through Friday night with heavy rainfall possible
    from the central Gulf Coast to the Southeast coast. Precipitable
    values of 1.5-1.75" are forecast, implying nearly saturated
    soundings. Effective bulk shear could be sufficient to help
    sustain areas of organized thunderstorms. There is wide variance in
    the QPF output from the various pieces of guidance, and most of
    the guidance isn't terribly wet, so have kept the excessive
    rainfall risk level at Marginal.


    ...Northeast...
    Out ahead of the upper low, guidance is showing strengthening
    onshore flow which would transport copious amounts of moisture into
    the Northeast. Moisture will wrap around the northern flank of the
    500 hPa low into a potential comma head pattern across northern NY
    and central New England. Farther east, the warm sector will
    feature highly saturated and deep warm cloud layers that could
    contain some weak elevated instability. There remains some spread
    in where the axis of heaviest rainfall sets up, which is why a
    Slight Risk remains un-added. However, given trends in guidance
    are all pointing towards a cut-off low over the Northeast and soils
    throughout the region are highly sensitive, there may be the need
    for a Slight Risk upgrade in future forecast updates once
    confidence increases in where the heaviest rainfall takes shape.

    Roth/Mullinax


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    20Z Update: The main change this period was over the Northeastern
    U.S. MRGL risk were the southern edge was pulled a bit northward
    given the trends in QPF distribution. The ECMWF was one of the
    furthest south in terms of the heavier QPF placement over the past
    cycle of runs, however the ML disagreed with the assessment and had
    the heavier precip further north as the the low will move steadily
    northeast before occlusion. 12z ECMWF is now in line with the rest
    of the deterministic and subsequent ensembles and ML output
    leading to confidence in pulling the southern portion of the risk
    area further north. As for the general pattern, little has changed
    otherwise with the core of heaviest precip focused across ME where
    precip is very much welcomed in all locales given current drought.
    The MRGL risk was maintained due to the forecasted 1-2" rainfall
    forecast with some terrain focused areas and urbanized zones the
    most likely to see any hydro impacts.

    Across the Southeast, beginning to see a greater consensus on
    heavier precip entering near the Big Bend over Apalachicola
    National Forecast, an area that is notoriously hard to flood
    outside significant convective training and/or tropical influence.
    Current moisture advection regime off the Gulf is situated for a
    prolonged training threat within the eastern flank of the maturing
    surface low positioned directly over the Central Gulf Coast. Deep
    layer mean flow is progged to be due southerly across the entire
    Western FL Panhandle which could ultimately lead to a targeted SLGT
    risk issuance if the current setup stands. There's still a bit of
    discrepancy on specifics with where the most prolific moisture
    transport will end up, but ensemble and ML depictions are close to
    that aforementioned area, but either a west or east displacement
    would cause differences in potential impacts as some larger
    population centers would get involved if the setup takes aim a bit
    more upstream. The MRGL is in place currently, but would not be
    surprised if a targeted upgrade is necessitated in future
    forecasts, especially once in range of the CAMs.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Southeast...
    A cold low drops down to the Gulf coast with time, spurring a
    development of a low vaguely near the Loop Current. Despite good
    agreement aloft, there is a definite difference in the guidance in
    lower levels, with the 00z NAM a bit north of the 00z GFS at 850
    hPa. This sort of pattern usually leads to a semi-convective low
    near the Loop Current which then moves northeast towards the
    Florida Panhandle or Big Bend, though the low's approach to the
    region looks more evident on Sunday or so/beyond the day 3 period.
    Some of the guidance has a decent QPF signal near the FL Big Bend,
    generally agreeing on 2-3" areal average, but it there is a bit of
    dispersion. It appears the 850 hPa boundary is still down in the
    Gulf much of the day. However, there could be enough moisture,
    instability, and effective bulk shear for issues in northern FL.
    For the moment, the Marginal Risk area remains in place due to the
    dispersion seen in the guidance.


    Northeast...
    The guidance has a signal for moderate to heavy rainfall across
    portions of New England over an area of relatively low flash flood
    guidance values. This is near and ahead of a cold low racing
    through the area. Precipitable water values rise to 1-1.25", which
    given the cool 1000-500 hPa thickness values, should lead to
    saturation. Given the strong 500 hPa height falls during the
    afternoon hours, some instability is bound to be available. Added a
    Marginal Risk area per the above. Per coordination with
    CAR/the Caribou ME forecast office. left northern ME out as the
    seven day rainfall across the state shows a fairly strong gradient,
    with northern ME generally left out of the recent rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-ltrrhKPHzwz449P7MeapPVWVLDEXbpckBye_mL99wSn= 0tZYqHOPbEBnzhQhcFMFCf_czOFeTQJxr9J8HkDRi1JKOz8$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-ltrrhKPHzwz449P7MeapPVWVLDEXbpckBye_mL99wSn= 0tZYqHOPbEBnzhQhcFMFCf_czOFeTQJxr9J8HkDRJQpmyv0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-ltrrhKPHzwz449P7MeapPVWVLDEXbpckBye_mL99wSn= 0tZYqHOPbEBnzhQhcFMFCf_czOFeTQJxr9J8HkDRFyU_kX0$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 090806
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    406 AM EDT Fri May 9 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    A cutoff upper low is forecast to stall over the Central Gulf=20
    Coast today, accompanied by a nearly stationary frontal boundary=20
    upon which a wave of low pressure will form this afternoon and=20
    evening. Convection moving onshore on the northern and eastern side
    of the low will likely result in locally heavy rainfall from=20
    southeastern Louisiana through southern Mississippi and Alabama to=20
    the western Florida Panhandle. Plentiful moisture will be in place=20
    with perceptible water values greater than 1.5 inches, and there=20
    should be just enough CAPE and effective bulk shear along the=20
    immediate coast to support some sustained/organized convection.=20
    Model guidance has come into good agreement on the overall QPF=20
    footprint with some variances on where the highest values are along
    the coast. The general consensus among the hi-res CAMs is for the=20
    higher amounts (2-3 inches with locally higher amounts possible) to
    fall between far southeastern Louisiana and Destin, Florida. Even=20
    with those amounts, the FFGs in these areas remain fairly high with
    3-4+ inches needed to pose flash flooding concerns. The main=20
    concerns with activity this evening will be thunderstorms with=20
    efficient rain rates tracking over any urban or poor drainage=20
    areas. There is a broad Marginal Risk area in place that includes=20
    the Central Gulf Coast and extends into southern Georgia and=20
    portions of North and Central Florida where localized thunderstorms
    with heavy rain may pop up this afternoon.=20

    ...Northeast...

    A slow-moving coastal low will bring a prolonged period of onshore
    flow to portions of the Northeast, which will produce some decent=20
    rainfall totals across the region. Most of the precipitation on the
    northern side of the system will be in the form of stratiform rain
    with modest rain rates at best, but rainfall totals will add up=20
    today into tonight, resulting in widespread amounts of 1-2 inches,=20
    locally higher, in the 24 hour period. Rain rates will likely fall
    short of the 1/3/6 hr FFGs in most locations. However, soils=20
    across the region are already saturated and there will likely be=20
    enough runoff to flood rivers, creeks, streams, and even some low-=20
    lying areas. The better chances of localized flash flooding will be
    to the south over Long Island and southern Connecticut. Hi-res=20
    CAMs have been consistently showing a higher stripe of QPF across=20
    Long Island where convection will move onshore ahead of the surface
    low. Given ample moisture from the Atlantic and a modest amount of
    CAPE, showers and storms that develop will likely be able to=20
    produce rain rates greater than 1 inch per hour. A Marginal Risk=20
    area is in place across portions of the Northeast to account for=20
    the localized flash flood threat across the region.=20


    Dolan


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary boundary will remain draped across the Southeast,=20
    with several waves of low pressure expected to form along the=20
    boundary over the weekend as upper level short waves pivot around=20
    the upper low over the region. Compared to Friday, the QPF=20
    footprint will translate east into areas with relatively drier=20
    antecedent conditions. Models are agreeable that widespread=20
    rainfall totals of 1-2 inches are expected across southern and=20
    central Alabama and Georgia and North Florida. Locally higher=20
    amounts above 2 inches will also be possible, but exactly where may
    vary within the region. The highest QPF will likely be along the=20
    immediate coast in the Florida panhandle as convection moves=20
    onshore, and training onshore convection will likely pose the=20
    highest threat for flash flooding. Efficient rain rates (2+ inches=20
    per hour) are expected due to a saturated atmosphere with ample=20
    CAPE and shear to support thunderstorms. Flash flooding may be=20
    fairly limited to urban and poor drainage areas given the higher=20
    FFGs (3-5 inches). To account for this, a Marginal Risk area is in=20
    place across much of the Southeast.

    ...New England...

    As a coastal low tracks south of the coast, moderate precipitation
    will focus over New England on the northern side of the system.=20
    The low is expected to be fairly progressive, which might help to=20
    limit rainfall totals, but a decent swatch of rainfall is forecast=20
    from Vermont and New Hampshire through southern Maine. Soils in=20
    Vermont and New Hampshire are expected to be somewhat sensitive=20
    given heavy rains expected today, but Maine hasn't received much=20
    rainfall as of late and will likely be able to handle any rainfall=20
    with only limited flooding concerns. Rainfall will be mostly=20
    stratiform across New England, limiting rain rates, but there will=20
    likely be enough moisture and instability to produce localized=20
    rates of 1+ inches over the course of a few hours, which may come=20
    close to 3/6 hr FFGs. A Marginal Risk area remains in place across=20
    Vermont, New Hampshire, and most of Maine, but northwestern Maine=20
    was removed from the Marginal as model QPF has trended downwards.


    Dolan


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST...

    A wave of upper level energy will pivot around the upper low across
    the Southeast, sparking another wave of convection from the Gulf
    Coast to the Southeast Atlantic Coast. Models are showing a more
    organized area of surface low pressure moving into the Southeast
    with significant rainfall totals on the eastern side. Widespread
    totals of 1.5-2.5 inches are expected with locally high amounts
    above 3 inches. Considering this will be the second day in a row
    with heavy rainfall in the Southeast, areas with saturated soils
    from the day before may be slightly more prone to flood impacts
    with additional heavy rain on Sunday. The most favorable flash
    flood conditions will be across North Florida and southern and
    central Georgia where 1000+ J/kg MUCAPE and 30+ knots of effective
    bulk shear with support organized convection. Additionally,
    precipitable water values in excess of 1.5 inches will support
    efficient rain rates in strong thunderstorms. A Marginal Risk area
    is in effect for much of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and
    North and Central Florida, with an embedded Slight Risk area over
    North Florida and southern and central Georgia.=20


    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7MADfg1ByPxOPw8jthEKkdk_G0889Lx5k7pa3ywXz_4S= hR21FsFZrx6szKf1It2cnr3XZx-faDMKDvL9MiZhf4TCioU$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7MADfg1ByPxOPw8jthEKkdk_G0889Lx5k7pa3ywXz_4S= hR21FsFZrx6szKf1It2cnr3XZx-faDMKDvL9MiZhQdd7Rf4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7MADfg1ByPxOPw8jthEKkdk_G0889Lx5k7pa3ywXz_4S= hR21FsFZrx6szKf1It2cnr3XZx-faDMKDvL9MiZh3VOZ7zE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Fri May 9 08:36:48 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 090836
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    436 AM EDT Fri May 9 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    A cutoff upper low is forecast to stall over the Central Gulf
    Coast today, accompanied by a nearly stationary frontal boundary
    upon which a wave of low pressure will form this afternoon and
    evening. Convection moving onshore on the northern and eastern side
    of the low will likely result in locally heavy rainfall from
    southeastern Louisiana through southern Mississippi and Alabama to
    the western Florida Panhandle. Plentiful moisture will be in place
    with perceptible water values greater than 1.5 inches, and there
    should be just enough CAPE and effective bulk shear along the
    immediate coast to support some sustained/organized convection.
    Model guidance has come into good agreement on the overall QPF
    footprint with some variances on where the highest values are along
    the coast. The general consensus among the hi-res CAMs is for the
    higher amounts (2-3 inches with locally higher amounts possible) to
    fall between far southeastern Louisiana and Destin, Florida. Even
    with those amounts, the FFGs in these areas remain fairly high with
    3-4+ inches needed to pose flash flooding concerns. The main
    concerns with activity this evening will be thunderstorms with
    efficient rain rates tracking over any urban or poor drainage
    areas. There is a broad Marginal Risk area in place that includes
    the Central Gulf Coast and extends into southern Georgia and
    portions of North and Central Florida where localized thunderstorms
    with heavy rain may pop up this afternoon.

    ...Northeast...

    A slow-moving coastal low will bring a prolonged period of onshore
    flow to portions of the Northeast, which will produce some decent
    rainfall totals across the region. Most of the precipitation on the
    northern side of the system will be in the form of stratiform rain
    with modest rain rates at best, but rainfall totals will add up
    today into tonight, resulting in widespread amounts of 1-2 inches,
    locally higher, in the 24 hour period. Rain rates will likely fall
    short of the 1/3/6 hr FFGs in most locations. However, soils
    across the region are already saturated and there will likely be
    enough runoff to flood rivers, creeks, streams, and even some low-
    lying areas. The better chances of localized flash flooding will be
    to the south over Long Island and southern Connecticut. Hi-res
    CAMs have been consistently showing a higher stripe of QPF across
    Long Island where convection will move onshore ahead of the surface
    low. Given ample moisture from the Atlantic and a modest amount of
    CAPE, showers and storms that develop will likely be able to
    produce rain rates greater than 1 inch per hour. A Marginal Risk
    area is in place across portions of the Northeast to account for
    the localized flash flood threat across the region.


    Dolan


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary boundary will remain draped across the Southeast,
    with several waves of low pressure expected to form along the
    boundary over the weekend as upper level short waves pivot around
    the upper low over the region. Compared to Friday, the QPF
    footprint will translate east into areas with relatively drier
    antecedent conditions. Models are agreeable that widespread
    rainfall totals of 1-2 inches are expected across southern and
    central Alabama and Georgia and North Florida. Locally higher
    amounts above 2 inches will also be possible, but exactly where may
    vary within the region. The highest QPF will likely be along the
    immediate coast in the Florida panhandle as convection moves
    onshore, and training onshore convection will likely pose the
    highest threat for flash flooding. Efficient rain rates (2+ inches
    per hour) are expected due to a saturated atmosphere with ample
    CAPE and shear to support thunderstorms. Flash flooding may be
    fairly limited to urban and poor drainage areas given the higher
    FFGs (3-5 inches). To account for this, a Marginal Risk area is in
    place across much of the Southeast.

    ...New England...

    As a coastal low tracks south of the coast, moderate precipitation
    will focus over New England on the northern side of the system.
    The low is expected to be fairly progressive, which might help to
    limit rainfall totals, but a decent swatch of rainfall is forecast
    from Vermont and New Hampshire through southern Maine. Soils in
    Vermont and New Hampshire are expected to be somewhat sensitive
    given heavy rains expected today. Rainfall will be mostly=20
    stratiform across New England, limiting rain rates, but there will=20
    likely be enough moisture and instability to produce localized=20
    rates of 1+ inches over the course of a few hours, which may come=20
    close to 3/6 hr FFGs. A Marginal Risk area remains in place across=20
    Vermont, New Hampshire, and most of Maine, but northwestern Maine=20
    was removed from the Marginal as model QPF has trended downwards.


    Dolan


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST...

    A wave of upper level energy will pivot around the upper low across
    the Southeast, sparking another wave of convection from the Gulf
    Coast to the Southeast Atlantic Coast. Models are showing a more
    organized area of surface low pressure moving into the Southeast
    with significant rainfall totals on the eastern side. Widespread
    totals of 1.5-2.5 inches are expected with locally high amounts
    above 3 inches. Considering this will be the second day in a row
    with heavy rainfall in the Southeast, areas with saturated soils
    from the day before may be slightly more prone to flood impacts
    with additional heavy rain on Sunday. The most favorable flash
    flood conditions will be across North Florida and southern and
    central Georgia where 1000+ J/kg MUCAPE and 30+ knots of effective
    bulk shear with support organized convection. Additionally,
    precipitable water values in excess of 1.5 inches will support
    efficient rain rates in strong thunderstorms. A Marginal Risk area
    is in effect for much of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and
    North and Central Florida, with an embedded Slight Risk area over
    North Florida and southern and central Georgia.


    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LoNcmEvmhbiEJZerCz0hCBOIaT3_aABLlNYY-mEqf3k= ewNcUdEybO4MS77stpdyikyjKrgY_lbfKWMgY9mjs1tKHIM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LoNcmEvmhbiEJZerCz0hCBOIaT3_aABLlNYY-mEqf3k= ewNcUdEybO4MS77stpdyikyjKrgY_lbfKWMgY9mjqmXEESU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-LoNcmEvmhbiEJZerCz0hCBOIaT3_aABLlNYY-mEqf3k= ewNcUdEybO4MS77stpdyikyjKrgY_lbfKWMgY9mj4isUPGo$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 091541
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1141 AM EDT Fri May 9 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    16Z Update: The general consensus from guidance this morning was to
    maintain continuity with the broad MRGL in place across the=20
    Southeastern U.S. The corridor of greatest focus will lie between
    Baton Rouge/New Orleans over towards Mobile during the evening and
    overnight hrs. as a surface low initiates along the Central Gulf
    Coast with a strengthening 925-700mb convergence layer on the
    east and northeast flank of the cyclone. CAMs this morning were
    pretty bullish on a narrow axis of heavier precipitation within
    that eastern flank of the low, likely in due part to the convergent
    pattern interacting with what is leftover of a quasi-stationary
    front situated along the Gulf Coast. Areal PWATs are still within
    that +1/+2 deviation marker with the 12z KLIX sounding coming in
    ~1.75" of atmospheric moisture. Anticipating PWATs to stay below
    the usual 2" marker that is customary for higher impact probs with
    regards to flash flooding.=20

    The previous discussion touched on the expected amounts pretty well
    with a general 1-3" anticipated with some localized prospects of
    4-8" within a small zone encompassing Southeast LA over to Southern
    MS/AL. The main concerns will be any of the urban zones where
    impervious surfaces provide minimal absorption with higher run off
    potential. This area will be monitored closely for a targeted
    upgrade if conditions warrant, but for now, the lack of heavier=20
    rates (12z HREF probs for >2"/hr running between 10-30% anywhere
    during the forecast cycle), as well as neighborhood probs for >5"
    signaling 50% or less across the I-10 corridor between New Orleans
    to Mobile with the highest probs right along the coast. The
    previous MRGL was kept with perhaps a targeted SLGT risk in a small
    zone where urbanization factors could enhance the prospects. The
    MRGL risk also aligns with the current ML First Guess Fields which
    have been pretty consistent the past several iterations.=20

    Kleebauer=20

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A cutoff upper low is forecast to stall over the Central Gulf
    Coast today, accompanied by a nearly stationary frontal boundary
    upon which a wave of low pressure will form this afternoon and
    evening. Convection moving onshore on the northern and eastern side
    of the low will likely result in locally heavy rainfall from
    southeastern Louisiana through southern Mississippi and Alabama to
    the western Florida Panhandle. Plentiful moisture will be in place
    with perceptible water values greater than 1.5 inches, and there
    should be just enough CAPE and effective bulk shear along the
    immediate coast to support some sustained/organized convection.
    Model guidance has come into good agreement on the overall QPF
    footprint with some variances on where the highest values are along
    the coast. The general consensus among the hi-res CAMs is for the
    higher amounts (2-3 inches with locally higher amounts possible) to
    fall between far southeastern Louisiana and Destin, Florida. Even
    with those amounts, the FFGs in these areas remain fairly high with
    3-4+ inches needed to pose flash flooding concerns. The main
    concerns with activity this evening will be thunderstorms with
    efficient rain rates tracking over any urban or poor drainage
    areas. There is a broad Marginal Risk area in place that includes
    the Central Gulf Coast and extends into southern Georgia and
    portions of North and Central Florida where localized thunderstorms
    with heavy rain may pop up this afternoon.


    ...Northeast...

    16Z Update: The main change from the previous forecast was the
    removal of areas within the southern bounds of the MRGL risk across
    Southeast PA into NJ. With a steady progression of the low to the
    northeast, a cold front will drag through the Mid Atlantic with the
    final rain threat exiting by later this afternoon. The overall
    heavy rain prospects have shifted north towards LI and Southern New
    England leaving the threat close to, if not already a nil for flash
    flooding the remainder of the period in those southern zones, so
    the risk was removed for the above areas.=20

    Further north, rainfall will continue with a narrow corridor for
    elevated convection across the eastern half of LI up through the
    eastern half of Southern New England where a tongue of higher
    850-500mb will be present this afternoon leading to some chances
    for elevated thunder with slightly better rates. Outside that, the
    primary precip scheme will be stratiform leading to capped rates
    and potential for flash flooding residing in the lower end of the
    inherited MRGL risk threshold. The main reason for the MRGL
    extension to the west is the very moist antecedent soils where NASA
    SPoRT is consistently depicting the top soil layer running >90%
    saturation meaning small stream and river flooding will exacerbate
    runoff concerns through the period. Totals between 1-2" will be the
    most common across the Hudson Valley to points east with rates
    sufficiently capped <1"/hr with low probs of even reaching 2"/3-hrs
    (20-30%) anywhere with the best threat over LI. The MRGL was
    maintained for the low-end threat across New England, Northeast PA,
    and Eastern NY State.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A slow-moving coastal low will bring a prolonged period of onshore
    flow to portions of the Northeast, which will produce some decent
    rainfall totals across the region. Most of the precipitation on the
    northern side of the system will be in the form of stratiform rain
    with modest rain rates at best, but rainfall totals will add up
    today into tonight, resulting in widespread amounts of 1-2 inches,
    locally higher, in the 24 hour period. Rain rates will likely fall
    short of the 1/3/6 hr FFGs in most locations. However, soils
    across the region are already saturated and there will likely be
    enough runoff to flood rivers, creeks, streams, and even some low-
    lying areas. The better chances of localized flash flooding will be
    to the south over Long Island and southern Connecticut. Hi-res
    CAMs have been consistently showing a higher stripe of QPF across
    Long Island where convection will move onshore ahead of the surface
    low. Given ample moisture from the Atlantic and a modest amount of
    CAPE, showers and storms that develop will likely be able to
    produce rain rates greater than 1 inch per hour. A Marginal Risk
    area is in place across portions of the Northeast to account for
    the localized flash flood threat across the region.

    Dolan


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary boundary will remain draped across the Southeast,
    with several waves of low pressure expected to form along the
    boundary over the weekend as upper level short waves pivot around
    the upper low over the region. Compared to Friday, the QPF
    footprint will translate east into areas with relatively drier
    antecedent conditions. Models are agreeable that widespread
    rainfall totals of 1-2 inches are expected across southern and
    central Alabama and Georgia and North Florida. Locally higher
    amounts above 2 inches will also be possible, but exactly where may
    vary within the region. The highest QPF will likely be along the
    immediate coast in the Florida panhandle as convection moves
    onshore, and training onshore convection will likely pose the
    highest threat for flash flooding. Efficient rain rates (2+ inches
    per hour) are expected due to a saturated atmosphere with ample
    CAPE and shear to support thunderstorms. Flash flooding may be
    fairly limited to urban and poor drainage areas given the higher
    FFGs (3-5 inches). To account for this, a Marginal Risk area is in
    place across much of the Southeast.

    ...New England...

    As a coastal low tracks south of the coast, moderate precipitation
    will focus over New England on the northern side of the system.
    The low is expected to be fairly progressive, which might help to
    limit rainfall totals, but a decent swatch of rainfall is forecast
    from Vermont and New Hampshire through southern Maine. Soils in
    Vermont and New Hampshire are expected to be somewhat sensitive
    given heavy rains expected today. Rainfall will be mostly
    stratiform across New England, limiting rain rates, but there will
    likely be enough moisture and instability to produce localized
    rates of 1+ inches over the course of a few hours, which may come
    close to 3/6 hr FFGs. A Marginal Risk area remains in place across
    Vermont, New Hampshire, and most of Maine, but northwestern Maine
    was removed from the Marginal as model QPF has trended downwards.


    Dolan


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST...

    A wave of upper level energy will pivot around the upper low across
    the Southeast, sparking another wave of convection from the Gulf
    Coast to the Southeast Atlantic Coast. Models are showing a more
    organized area of surface low pressure moving into the Southeast
    with significant rainfall totals on the eastern side. Widespread
    totals of 1.5-2.5 inches are expected with locally high amounts
    above 3 inches. Considering this will be the second day in a row
    with heavy rainfall in the Southeast, areas with saturated soils
    from the day before may be slightly more prone to flood impacts
    with additional heavy rain on Sunday. The most favorable flash
    flood conditions will be across North Florida and southern and
    central Georgia where 1000+ J/kg MUCAPE and 30+ knots of effective
    bulk shear with support organized convection. Additionally,
    precipitable water values in excess of 1.5 inches will support
    efficient rain rates in strong thunderstorms. A Marginal Risk area
    is in effect for much of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and
    North and Central Florida, with an embedded Slight Risk area over
    North Florida and southern and central Georgia.


    Dolan


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    FOUS30 KWBC 091935
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    335 PM EDT Fri May 9 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri May 09 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHEAST & SOUTHEAST...

    ...Gulf Coast & Southeast...

    16Z Update: The general consensus from guidance this morning was to
    maintain continuity with the broad MRGL in place across the
    Southeastern U.S. The corridor of greatest focus will lie between
    Baton Rouge/New Orleans over towards Mobile during the evening and
    overnight hrs. as a surface low initiates along the Central Gulf
    Coast with a strengthening 925-700mb convergence layer on the
    east and northeast flank of the cyclone. CAMs this morning were
    pretty bullish on a narrow axis of heavier precipitation within
    that eastern flank of the low, likely in due part to the convergent
    pattern interacting with what is leftover of a quasi-stationary
    front situated along the Gulf Coast. Areal PWATs are still within
    that +1/+2 deviation marker with the 12z KLIX sounding coming in
    ~1.75" of atmospheric moisture. Anticipating PWATs to stay below
    the usual 2" marker that is customary for higher impact probs with
    regards to flash flooding.

    The previous discussion touched on the expected amounts pretty well
    with a general 1-3" anticipated with some localized prospects of
    4-8" within a small zone encompassing Southeast LA over to Southern
    MS/AL. The main concerns will be any of the urban zones where
    impervious surfaces provide minimal absorption with higher run off
    potential. This area will be monitored closely for a targeted
    upgrade if conditions warrant, but for now, the lack of heavier
    rates (12z HREF probs for >2"/hr running between 10-30% anywhere
    during the forecast cycle), as well as neighborhood probs for >5"
    signaling 50% or less across the I-10 corridor between New Orleans
    to Mobile with the highest probs right along the coast. The
    previous MRGL was kept with perhaps a targeted SLGT risk in a small
    zone where urbanization factors could enhance the prospects. The
    MRGL risk also aligns with the current ML First Guess Fields which
    have been pretty consistent the past several iterations.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A cutoff upper low is forecast to stall over the Central Gulf
    Coast today, accompanied by a nearly stationary frontal boundary
    upon which a wave of low pressure will form this afternoon and
    evening. Convection moving onshore on the northern and eastern side
    of the low will likely result in locally heavy rainfall from
    southeastern Louisiana through southern Mississippi and Alabama to
    the western Florida Panhandle. Plentiful moisture will be in place
    with perceptible water values greater than 1.5 inches, and there
    should be just enough CAPE and effective bulk shear along the
    immediate coast to support some sustained/organized convection.
    Model guidance has come into good agreement on the overall QPF
    footprint with some variances on where the highest values are along
    the coast. The general consensus among the hi-res CAMs is for the
    higher amounts (2-3 inches with locally higher amounts possible) to
    fall between far southeastern Louisiana and Destin, Florida. Even
    with those amounts, the FFGs in these areas remain fairly high with
    3-4+ inches needed to pose flash flooding concerns. The main
    concerns with activity this evening will be thunderstorms with
    efficient rain rates tracking over any urban or poor drainage
    areas. There is a broad Marginal Risk area in place that includes
    the Central Gulf Coast and extends into southern Georgia and
    portions of North and Central Florida where localized thunderstorms
    with heavy rain may pop up this afternoon.


    ...Northeast...

    16Z Update: The main change from the previous forecast was the
    removal of areas within the southern bounds of the MRGL risk across
    Southeast PA into NJ. With a steady progression of the low to the
    northeast, a cold front will drag through the Mid Atlantic with the
    final rain threat exiting by later this afternoon. The overall
    heavy rain prospects have shifted north towards LI and Southern New
    England leaving the threat close to, if not already a nil for flash
    flooding the remainder of the period in those southern zones, so
    the risk was removed for the above areas.

    Further north, rainfall will continue with a narrow corridor for
    elevated convection across the eastern half of LI up through the
    eastern half of Southern New England where a tongue of higher
    850-500mb will be present this afternoon leading to some chances
    for elevated thunder with slightly better rates. Outside that, the
    primary precip scheme will be stratiform leading to capped rates
    and potential for flash flooding residing in the lower end of the
    inherited MRGL risk threshold. The main reason for the MRGL
    extension to the west is the very moist antecedent soils where NASA
    SPoRT is consistently depicting the top soil layer running >90%
    saturation meaning small stream and river flooding will exacerbate
    runoff concerns through the period. Totals between 1-2" will be the
    most common across the Hudson Valley to points east with rates
    sufficiently capped <1"/hr with low probs of even reaching 2"/3-hrs
    (20-30%) anywhere with the best threat over LI. The MRGL was
    maintained for the low-end threat across New England, Northeast PA,
    and Eastern NY State.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A slow-moving coastal low will bring a prolonged period of onshore
    flow to portions of the Northeast, which will produce some decent
    rainfall totals across the region. Most of the precipitation on the
    northern side of the system will be in the form of stratiform rain
    with modest rain rates at best, but rainfall totals will add up
    today into tonight, resulting in widespread amounts of 1-2 inches,
    locally higher, in the 24 hour period. Rain rates will likely fall
    short of the 1/3/6 hr FFGs in most locations. However, soils
    across the region are already saturated and there will likely be
    enough runoff to flood rivers, creeks, streams, and even some low-
    lying areas. The better chances of localized flash flooding will be
    to the south over Long Island and southern Connecticut. Hi-res
    CAMs have been consistently showing a higher stripe of QPF across
    Long Island where convection will move onshore ahead of the surface
    low. Given ample moisture from the Atlantic and a modest amount of
    CAPE, showers and storms that develop will likely be able to
    produce rain rates greater than 1 inch per hour. A Marginal Risk
    area is in place across portions of the Northeast to account for
    the localized flash flood threat across the region.

    Dolan


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    20Z Update: The previous forecast remains on track for both the
    Southeast and Northeastern U.S MRGL risk areas as the overall run
    to run consistency in the synoptic pattern has yielded similar QPF
    outputs within the recent 12z guidance. The heaviest rain across
    the Southeast will translate eastward due to the mean trough
    pattern over the Southern Plains shifting more towards the
    Mississippi Valley longitude. Surface low across the Gulf will=20
    occlude and wander north and northwest during the course of the=20
    period with deep layer flow basically aligned south to north from=20
    the FL Panhandle up through AL/GA. Surface and upper lows will=20
    become vertically stacked by Saturday afternoon leading to slow=20
    storm motions under the parent circulation with a steady push south
    to north within the eastern flank of the circulations. Scattered=20
    to numerous thunderstorms will accompany both areas of interest=20
    leading to the risk area encompassing a sprawling zone with the=20
    cyclonic arc back towards the Mississippi Valley on the northwest=20
    side of the circulation.=20

    Stalled front along the Southeast Atlantic coast extending through
    Southern GA will act as an inflection point for convection with=20
    mean storm motions likely aligned with the boundary as you work=20
    from southwest to northeast (Tallahassee to Charleston, SC line).=20
    This will lead to a secondary maxima developing over the course of=20
    Saturday morning and afternoon, a consistent signature within the=20
    latest CAMs. The primary axis of interest will reside over the=20
    Western FL Peninsula up through the AL/GA line till about the I-20=20
    corridor. Despite the overall setup indicating 1-3" of rainfall=20
    with locally higher in that vicinity, the area in question is under
    the influence of a D0-2 drought so the threat of flash flooding
    with the current forecasted rates should help curb the threat
    initially (See D3 discussion below). The MRGL was maintained
    outside some expansions on the northern periphery of the risk area
    to align with current QPF.=20

    Northeast U.S. saw the western edge towards VT brought back further
    east as the forecast surface low progression and subsequent dry air
    advection pattern behind the vacating low will yield less of a risk
    of persistent rainfall in that portion of New England. There was
    enough consensus to trim part of the risk area to account for the
    changes leading to NH and ME as the only areas where the risk was
    maintained. QPF details remain steadfast from previous forecast
    with locally moderate to heavy rainfall leading to an areal=20
    average of 0.75-1.5" of rainfall with upwards of 2" plausible over=20
    Central ME down towards the Southern ME coast.

    Kleebauer


    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary boundary will remain draped across the Southeast,
    with several waves of low pressure expected to form along the
    boundary over the weekend as upper level short waves pivot around
    the upper low over the region. Compared to Friday, the QPF
    footprint will translate east into areas with relatively drier
    antecedent conditions. Models are agreeable that widespread
    rainfall totals of 1-2 inches are expected across southern and
    central Alabama and Georgia and North Florida. Locally higher
    amounts above 2 inches will also be possible, but exactly where may
    vary within the region. The highest QPF will likely be along the
    immediate coast in the Florida panhandle as convection moves
    onshore, and training onshore convection will likely pose the
    highest threat for flash flooding. Efficient rain rates (2+ inches
    per hour) are expected due to a saturated atmosphere with ample
    CAPE and shear to support thunderstorms. Flash flooding may be
    fairly limited to urban and poor drainage areas given the higher
    FFGs (3-5 inches). To account for this, a Marginal Risk area is in
    place across much of the Southeast.

    ...New England...

    As a coastal low tracks south of the coast, moderate precipitation
    will focus over New England on the northern side of the system.
    The low is expected to be fairly progressive, which might help to
    limit rainfall totals, but a decent swatch of rainfall is forecast
    from Vermont and New Hampshire through southern Maine. Soils in
    Vermont and New Hampshire are expected to be somewhat sensitive
    given heavy rains expected today. Rainfall will be mostly
    stratiform across New England, limiting rain rates, but there will
    likely be enough moisture and instability to produce localized
    rates of 1+ inches over the course of a few hours, which may come
    close to 3/6 hr FFGs. A Marginal Risk area remains in place across
    Vermont, New Hampshire, and most of Maine, but northwestern Maine
    was removed from the Marginal as model QPF has trended downwards.

    Dolan


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST...

    20Z Update: The primary change for the forecast was a general
    expansion of the SLGT risk area further northeast into SC to
    account for the heavier rainfall threat protruding inland given=20
    the strong uni-direction component advecting rich Gulf moisture=20
    poleward between the closed upper reflection over the Mississippi=20
    Valley and the surface ridge over the Western Atlantic. Cold front
    from the north will also hit a roadblock as it motions south,
    likely becoming more quasi-stationary across North GA and the SC
    Piedmont before being pushed back as a warm front. This will likely
    coincide with a stronger low-level convergence signature up into
    those areas by the afternoon and beyond on Sunday into Monday.
    Considering the nature of the persistent moisture advection regime
    and enhanced theta_E pattern, expecting widespread thunderstorm
    development with rates likely reaching between 1-3"/hr within the
    heaviest cores. Antecedent soil conditions should moisten with the
    day prior, so the overlap will create a better threat for natural
    runoff, not including the urban threat that is customary in these
    setups. The previous SLGT risk was maintained with those expansions
    to reflect the latest trends.=20

    Kleebauer=20


    ..Previous Discussion..

    A wave of upper level energy will pivot around the upper low across
    the Southeast, sparking another wave of convection from the Gulf
    Coast to the Southeast Atlantic Coast. Models are showing a more
    organized area of surface low pressure moving into the Southeast
    with significant rainfall totals on the eastern side. Widespread
    totals of 1.5-2.5 inches are expected with locally high amounts
    above 3 inches. Considering this will be the second day in a row
    with heavy rainfall in the Southeast, areas with saturated soils
    from the day before may be slightly more prone to flood impacts
    with additional heavy rain on Sunday. The most favorable flash
    flood conditions will be across North Florida and southern and
    central Georgia where 1000+ J/kg MUCAPE and 30+ knots of effective
    bulk shear with support organized convection. Additionally,
    precipitable water values in excess of 1.5 inches will support
    efficient rain rates in strong thunderstorms. A Marginal Risk area
    is in effect for much of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and
    North and Central Florida, with an embedded Slight Risk area over
    North Florida and southern and central Georgia.

    Dolan


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    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9rD_5i-iyGzgfR4v-WYGKqvtpXE31WtMihPS5pCGDdXQ= hTiNvX9HhviDG9M6hXsjhE1bqrOR3FEf4Km5MU8saOoNDwE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat May 10 00:59:36 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 100059
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    859 PM EDT Fri May 9 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sat May 10 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Convection along the central Gulf Coast will continue to pose an
    isolated flash flood risk tonight. One more round of intense
    convection is expected to move into coastal areas tonight into
    early Saturday, although some model differences remain with the=20
    specifics. The 12z REFS is the furthest west, bringing a max into=20
    southern MS, with the 23z HRRR the furthest east, more into the=20
    western FL Panhandle. At this point leaning a bit more towards the=20
    recent HRRR runs, but in reality anywhere from southern MS to the=20
    western FL Panhandle is in play for additional heavy convection and
    3"+ more of rain in spots. Not seeing quite enough model=20
    consistency to go with a Slight risk, but with earlier rainfall=20
    increasing saturation...it does seem probable that at least a few=20
    more instances of flash flooding will occur into the overnight=20
    hours wherever this stronger convection moves onshore.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST & NEW ENGLAND...

    20Z Update: The previous forecast remains on track for both the
    Southeast and Northeastern U.S MRGL risk areas as the overall run
    to run consistency in the synoptic pattern has yielded similar QPF
    outputs within the recent 12z guidance. The heaviest rain across
    the Southeast will translate eastward due to the mean trough
    pattern over the Southern Plains shifting more towards the
    Mississippi Valley longitude. Surface low across the Gulf will
    occlude and wander north and northwest during the course of the
    period with deep layer flow basically aligned south to north from
    the FL Panhandle up through AL/GA. Surface and upper lows will
    become vertically stacked by Saturday afternoon leading to slow
    storm motions under the parent circulation with a steady push south
    to north within the eastern flank of the circulations. Scattered
    to numerous thunderstorms will accompany both areas of interest
    leading to the risk area encompassing a sprawling zone with the
    cyclonic arc back towards the Mississippi Valley on the northwest
    side of the circulation.

    Stalled front along the Southeast Atlantic coast extending through
    Southern GA will act as an inflection point for convection with
    mean storm motions likely aligned with the boundary as you work
    from southwest to northeast (Tallahassee to Charleston, SC line).
    This will lead to a secondary maxima developing over the course of
    Saturday morning and afternoon, a consistent signature within the
    latest CAMs. The primary axis of interest will reside over the
    Western FL Peninsula up through the AL/GA line till about the I-20
    corridor. Despite the overall setup indicating 1-3" of rainfall
    with locally higher in that vicinity, the area in question is under
    the influence of a D0-2 drought so the threat of flash flooding
    with the current forecasted rates should help curb the threat
    initially (See D3 discussion below). The MRGL was maintained
    outside some expansions on the northern periphery of the risk area
    to align with current QPF.

    Northeast U.S. saw the western edge towards VT brought back further
    east as the forecast surface low progression and subsequent dry air
    advection pattern behind the vacating low will yield less of a risk
    of persistent rainfall in that portion of New England. There was
    enough consensus to trim part of the risk area to account for the
    changes leading to NH and ME as the only areas where the risk was
    maintained. QPF details remain steadfast from previous forecast
    with locally moderate to heavy rainfall leading to an areal
    average of 0.75-1.5" of rainfall with upwards of 2" plausible over
    Central ME down towards the Southern ME coast.

    Kleebauer


    ..Previous Discussions..

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary boundary will remain draped across the Southeast,
    with several waves of low pressure expected to form along the
    boundary over the weekend as upper level short waves pivot around
    the upper low over the region. Compared to Friday, the QPF
    footprint will translate east into areas with relatively drier
    antecedent conditions. Models are agreeable that widespread
    rainfall totals of 1-2 inches are expected across southern and
    central Alabama and Georgia and North Florida. Locally higher
    amounts above 2 inches will also be possible, but exactly where may
    vary within the region. The highest QPF will likely be along the
    immediate coast in the Florida panhandle as convection moves
    onshore, and training onshore convection will likely pose the
    highest threat for flash flooding. Efficient rain rates (2+ inches
    per hour) are expected due to a saturated atmosphere with ample
    CAPE and shear to support thunderstorms. Flash flooding may be
    fairly limited to urban and poor drainage areas given the higher
    FFGs (3-5 inches). To account for this, a Marginal Risk area is in
    place across much of the Southeast.

    ...New England...

    As a coastal low tracks south of the coast, moderate precipitation
    will focus over New England on the northern side of the system.
    The low is expected to be fairly progressive, which might help to
    limit rainfall totals, but a decent swatch of rainfall is forecast
    from Vermont and New Hampshire through southern Maine. Soils in
    Vermont and New Hampshire are expected to be somewhat sensitive
    given heavy rains expected today. Rainfall will be mostly
    stratiform across New England, limiting rain rates, but there will
    likely be enough moisture and instability to produce localized
    rates of 1+ inches over the course of a few hours, which may come
    close to 3/6 hr FFGs. A Marginal Risk area remains in place across
    Vermont, New Hampshire, and most of Maine, but northwestern Maine
    was removed from the Marginal as model QPF has trended downwards.

    Dolan


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST...

    20Z Update: The primary change for the forecast was a general
    expansion of the SLGT risk area further northeast into SC to
    account for the heavier rainfall threat protruding inland given
    the strong uni-direction component advecting rich Gulf moisture
    poleward between the closed upper reflection over the Mississippi
    Valley and the surface ridge over the Western Atlantic. Cold front
    from the north will also hit a roadblock as it motions south,
    likely becoming more quasi-stationary across North GA and the SC
    Piedmont before being pushed back as a warm front. This will likely
    coincide with a stronger low-level convergence signature up into
    those areas by the afternoon and beyond on Sunday into Monday.
    Considering the nature of the persistent moisture advection regime
    and enhanced theta_E pattern, expecting widespread thunderstorm
    development with rates likely reaching between 1-3"/hr within the
    heaviest cores. Antecedent soil conditions should moisten with the
    day prior, so the overlap will create a better threat for natural
    runoff, not including the urban threat that is customary in these
    setups. The previous SLGT risk was maintained with those expansions
    to reflect the latest trends.

    Kleebauer


    ..Previous Discussion..

    A wave of upper level energy will pivot around the upper low across
    the Southeast, sparking another wave of convection from the Gulf
    Coast to the Southeast Atlantic Coast. Models are showing a more
    organized area of surface low pressure moving into the Southeast
    with significant rainfall totals on the eastern side. Widespread
    totals of 1.5-2.5 inches are expected with locally high amounts
    above 3 inches. Considering this will be the second day in a row
    with heavy rainfall in the Southeast, areas with saturated soils
    from the day before may be slightly more prone to flood impacts
    with additional heavy rain on Sunday. The most favorable flash
    flood conditions will be across North Florida and southern and
    central Georgia where 1000+ J/kg MUCAPE and 30+ knots of effective
    bulk shear with support organized convection. Additionally,
    precipitable water values in excess of 1.5 inches will support
    efficient rain rates in strong thunderstorms. A Marginal Risk area
    is in effect for much of Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and
    North and Central Florida, with an embedded Slight Risk area over
    North Florida and southern and central Georgia.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!61gaDHUy-ffMYAMtUDbdcs51PIQn-cZnNM61e9L6AdCK= ctb3nlAhNGj9rrMafUml1beD41vcZJuAgiA1MY8LWnxfxXk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!61gaDHUy-ffMYAMtUDbdcs51PIQn-cZnNM61e9L6AdCK= ctb3nlAhNGj9rrMafUml1beD41vcZJuAgiA1MY8L1zFO1mk$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!61gaDHUy-ffMYAMtUDbdcs51PIQn-cZnNM61e9L6AdCK= ctb3nlAhNGj9rrMafUml1beD41vcZJuAgiA1MY8LPWT0Qwk$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 100753
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    353 AM EDT Sat May 10 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND SOUTHEASTERN ALABAMA...

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary upper low will remain parked over the Central Gulf=20
    Coast through the weekend. A potent shortwave trough will pivot=20
    around the upper low today, sparking convection across the=20
    Southeast. At the surface, a low pressure system slowly tracking=20
    north into the Central Gulf Coast states will become occluded, with
    nearly stationary frontal boundaries extending south into the Gulf
    and east to the Atlantic Coast. Thunderstorms are expected to form
    in the warm sector of the system today, with some overrunning=20
    precipitation on the northern side of the system as well. Heavy=20
    rain should initially focus on the Florida Panhandle this morning,=20
    then spread further into the Southeast and Florida peninsula=20
    throughout the day.=20

    Showers and storms tracking north along the frontal boundary that=20
    extends into the Gulf will result in areas of repeat convection in=20
    the Florida Panhandle and southeastern Alabama that will likely=20
    cause high rainfall totals over the span of a few hours. Storms=20
    will be capable of producing 2-3 inch per hour rain rates with=20
    ample moisture (PWAT>1.5 inches) and CAPE (>1500 J/kg) to tap into.
    FFGs in the Florida Panhandle and far southeastern Alabama have=20
    decreased to 3-5 inches in 3 hours, which will be in danger of=20
    being exceeded with areas of repeat convection today. Additionally,
    heavy rain fell last night/early this morning in the Florida=20
    Panhandle, which has helped to prime the ground and saturate soils=20
    ahead of more heavy rain today. To account for this heightened=20
    flood potential, a targeted Slight Risk area has been introduced=20
    for portions of the Florida Panhandle and far southeastern Alabama.


    Elsewhere in the Southeast, persistent areas of moderate rainfall=20
    are expected on the northern periphery, north of the west-east=20
    oriented stationary boundary. This should result in some decent=20
    rainfall accumulations today from central and northern Mississippi=20
    to South Carolina. The higher flood potential will be along and=20
    south of the frontal boundary where thunderstorm development is=20
    favored. Hi-res CAMs have been showing the potential for some more=20
    organized convection late this morning into this afternoon. Given a
    favorable environment with ample moisture and instability combined
    with 35-45 knots of effective bulk shear, strong thunderstorms=20
    that develop will be capable of producing high rain rates of 2+=20
    inches per hour and could approach the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in=20
    these areas. By this afternoon, showers and storms should also pick
    up along the Florida peninsula as diurnal heating increases. To=20
    cover these threats, a broad Marginal Risk area is in place from=20
    central Mississippi to South Carolina and to portions of North and=20
    Central Florida.=20


    ...New England...

    A coastal low will track along the New England Coast today with=20
    stratiform rain on the northern side and likely some embedded=20
    convection along the coast in the vicinity of the low pressure=20
    center. The low will be fairly progressive, which will help limit=20
    the flood risk, but a swath of 1-1.5 inch accumulations are=20
    expected, with locally higher amounts possible, across southern=20
    Maine during the day today. The highest rain rates will likely be=20
    along the immediate coast where precipitation amounts could=20
    approach the 1.5-2 inch per 3 hour FFGs and result in localized=20
    flooding concerns. Another concern will be New Hampshire where=20
    0.35-0.75 inches of rain are forecast to fall over fully saturated=20
    soils, which could contribute to ongoing flooding of rivers,=20
    creeks, and streams in the region. A Marginal Risk area is in place
    across portions of Maine and New Hampshire.=20

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    The upper level low over the Central Gulf Coast will elongate=20
    north-south as another upper level wave of energy moves over the=20
    Southeast on Sunday, and the direction of the mean layer flow will=20
    shift to become more directly onshore/perpendicular to the Gulf=20
    Coast. Meanwhile, a strengthening southern stream jet will create=20
    favorable divergence aloft in the left exit region positioned right
    over North Florida and southern Georgia in the afternoon/evening.=20
    At the surface, an occluded low pressure system will be very slowly
    moving north across the Southeast with a stationary front=20
    extending west to east across Georgia and South Carolina. This=20
    setup will support another wave of widespread showers and=20
    thunderstorms capable of producing heavy rain. Much of the region=20
    will have received heavy rain the day before (Saturday), resulting=20
    in more saturated soils that are potentially easier to flood.=20

    There is good agreement among models of widespread 2-3 inch totals
    through the period for North Florida and southern and central
    Georgia, with locally higher amounts up to 4+ inches possible. Hi-
    res CAMs (available through the first half of the period) suggest
    that storms developing Sunday afternoon will have the potential to
    produce rain rates of 2+ inches per hour. Given the moist, unstable
    air mass in place, some stronger/deep thunderstorms will be
    possible as well that could contribute to rain rates exceeding the
    1 and 3 hr FFGs of 3-4 inches. Some global models (mainly the ECMWF
    and CMC) are suggesting high moisture pushing even further inland
    with rainfall totals of 2-4 inches potentially reaching into
    western North Carolina along the upslope region of the southern
    Appalachians. Some heavy rainfall potential will also exist across
    portions of Mississippi and Alabama where showers and storms may
    develop in the vicinity of the surface low pressure center. A broad
    Marginal Risk is in place from northern Mississippi through much of
    Alabama to South Carolina and western North Carolina and for
    portions of Central Florida. There is an embedded Slight Risk area
    for North Florida, southern and central Georgia, and portions of
    eastern Alabama and southern South Carolina, which covers areas
    with the highest rain rate/flash flood potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    The upper low that will impact the Southeast over the weekend will
    finally gain some momentum and move north towards the Tennessee=20
    Valley on Monday. The accompanying surface low pressure system will
    slowly drift north as well, and moisture ahead of the system will=20
    expand from the Southeast into the southern Mid-Atlantic. Very high
    PWAT values of 1.5-2 inches will spread up the Southeast Atlantic=20
    Coast, and widespread heavy rain is forecast from Florida to=20
    Virginia.=20

    Inland areas in the upslope region of the Appalachians have lower
    FFGs in the rage of 2.5-3 inches per 6 hours while FFGs elsewhere
    are a bit higher at 3-4+ inches per 6 hours. The synoptic setup
    with prolonged onshore flow from the Atlantic will favor enhanced
    rainfall along the southern Appalachians, which is observed in
    model output from all available global models. There will be a high
    chance for 2-3 inches of rain, with potential for up to 4 inches,
    from northern Georgia to southern Virginia, which would likely
    cause at least scattered flash flooding concerns. High rainfall
    totals will also be possible in convergent areas along the coast
    from Florida to North Carolina, and 24 hour QPF totals are forecast
    to reach 1.5-2 inches with locally higher amounts expected with
    stronger convection. Many areas from Florida to South Carolina will
    have already received heavy rain over the weekend, which will
    increase the chance of flash flooding concerns with additional
    heavy rain on Monday. There is a fairly large Slight Risk area in
    place to cover the higher rainfall potential from Central and North
    Florida through eastern Georgia and the Carolinas to southern
    Virginia. The highest risk area within this region will be the
    southern Appalachians, which will need to be monitored in future
    forecast updates for potential ERO upgrades. Surrounding the Slight
    Risk area, a Marginal is in place from Florida to Virginia.=20

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8AYgEaJYvKvFpz9g2qIr2jwTZ1lr0aKqmP4N-rTzoAwr= XoxJGqTlFfGB-LG5x_MbkevZuU3z9WDObgmGhLW0Dm1it7c$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8AYgEaJYvKvFpz9g2qIr2jwTZ1lr0aKqmP4N-rTzoAwr= XoxJGqTlFfGB-LG5x_MbkevZuU3z9WDObgmGhLW0PXybSZo$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8AYgEaJYvKvFpz9g2qIr2jwTZ1lr0aKqmP4N-rTzoAwr= XoxJGqTlFfGB-LG5x_MbkevZuU3z9WDObgmGhLW0G4QrXqM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 101549
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1149 AM EDT Sat May 10 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND SOUTHEASTERN ALABAMA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Southeast...

    No big changes were needed with this morning's update. The Slight
    and Marginal Risk areas are largely unchanged, short of a small
    carve out in the Marginal around the Big Bend region for higher=20
    FFGs there.=20

    The Slight remains in place for potential flash flooding
    from ongoing convection, but perhaps a bit more concern for
    potential additional convection in the area tonight. The jet stream
    has brought a plume of dry air into the area, which is greatly
    impacting convective coverage, even if locally increasing the
    potential instability. This dry air will for sure prevent much
    light rainfall outside of any convection, though that convection
    may have enough moisture from the lower levels to support a flash
    flooding threat. A large contributor to the flash flooding threat
    remains recent heavy rains, especially in the Florida Panhandle
    portion of the Slight, which have locally saturated the soils but=20
    it will still take a lot of heavy rain from any one or line of
    training storms to support the flash flooding threat there tonight
    since the soils are sandy and swampy in the area.

    The upper level low forcing the convection across the Southeast is
    still getting its act together, so the better forcing and more
    widespread convection is more likely into the Day 2/Sunday period.
    The broad Marginal remains in place for localized training
    convection, with little certainty on where exactly any associated
    flash flooding will occur.

    ...New England...

    In coordination with GYX/Gray, ME forecast office, the Marginal
    Risk was removed with this update. All of the rain in the area is
    of a stratiform nature, and is struggling to even reach 1/2 inch
    per hour rates based on radar estimates. While any additional
    rainfall especially into New Hampshire will contribute to any
    ongoing riverine flooding, the flash flooding threat from this
    system is very low. The rain will continue pivoting east with the
    back edge over central New Hampshire now crossing Maine and into
    New Brunswick by this evening. For much of Maine, soils are much
    drier due to missing recent heavy rainfall, so the flooding threat
    there is also very low.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary upper low will remain parked over the Central Gulf
    Coast through the weekend. A potent shortwave trough will pivot
    around the upper low today, sparking convection across the
    Southeast. At the surface, a low pressure system slowly tracking
    north into the Central Gulf Coast states will become occluded, with
    nearly stationary frontal boundaries extending south into the Gulf
    and east to the Atlantic Coast. Thunderstorms are expected to form
    in the warm sector of the system today, with some overrunning
    precipitation on the northern side of the system as well. Heavy
    rain should initially focus on the Florida Panhandle this morning,
    then spread further into the Southeast and Florida peninsula
    throughout the day.

    Showers and storms tracking north along the frontal boundary that
    extends into the Gulf will result in areas of repeat convection in
    the Florida Panhandle and southeastern Alabama that will likely
    cause high rainfall totals over the span of a few hours. Storms
    will be capable of producing 2-3 inch per hour rain rates with
    ample moisture (PWAT>1.5 inches) and CAPE (>1500 J/kg) to tap into.
    FFGs in the Florida Panhandle and far southeastern Alabama have
    decreased to 3-5 inches in 3 hours, which will be in danger of
    being exceeded with areas of repeat convection today. Additionally,
    heavy rain fell last night/early this morning in the Florida
    Panhandle, which has helped to prime the ground and saturate soils
    ahead of more heavy rain today. To account for this heightened
    flood potential, a targeted Slight Risk area has been introduced
    for portions of the Florida Panhandle and far southeastern Alabama.

    Elsewhere in the Southeast, persistent areas of moderate rainfall
    are expected on the northern periphery, north of the west-east
    oriented stationary boundary. This should result in some decent
    rainfall accumulations today from central and northern Mississippi
    to South Carolina. The higher flood potential will be along and
    south of the frontal boundary where thunderstorm development is
    favored. Hi-res CAMs have been showing the potential for some more
    organized convection late this morning into this afternoon. Given a
    favorable environment with ample moisture and instability combined
    with 35-45 knots of effective bulk shear, strong thunderstorms
    that develop will be capable of producing high rain rates of 2+
    inches per hour and could approach the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in
    these areas. By this afternoon, showers and storms should also pick
    up along the Florida peninsula as diurnal heating increases. To
    cover these threats, a broad Marginal Risk area is in place from
    central Mississippi to South Carolina and to portions of North and
    Central Florida.


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    The upper level low over the Central Gulf Coast will elongate
    north-south as another upper level wave of energy moves over the
    Southeast on Sunday, and the direction of the mean layer flow will
    shift to become more directly onshore/perpendicular to the Gulf
    Coast. Meanwhile, a strengthening southern stream jet will create
    favorable divergence aloft in the left exit region positioned right
    over North Florida and southern Georgia in the afternoon/evening.
    At the surface, an occluded low pressure system will be very slowly
    moving north across the Southeast with a stationary front
    extending west to east across Georgia and South Carolina. This
    setup will support another wave of widespread showers and
    thunderstorms capable of producing heavy rain. Much of the region
    will have received heavy rain the day before (Saturday), resulting
    in more saturated soils that are potentially easier to flood.

    There is good agreement among models of widespread 2-3 inch totals
    through the period for North Florida and southern and central
    Georgia, with locally higher amounts up to 4+ inches possible. Hi-
    res CAMs (available through the first half of the period) suggest
    that storms developing Sunday afternoon will have the potential to
    produce rain rates of 2+ inches per hour. Given the moist, unstable
    air mass in place, some stronger/deep thunderstorms will be
    possible as well that could contribute to rain rates exceeding the
    1 and 3 hr FFGs of 3-4 inches. Some global models (mainly the ECMWF
    and CMC) are suggesting high moisture pushing even further inland
    with rainfall totals of 2-4 inches potentially reaching into
    western North Carolina along the upslope region of the southern
    Appalachians. Some heavy rainfall potential will also exist across
    portions of Mississippi and Alabama where showers and storms may
    develop in the vicinity of the surface low pressure center. A broad
    Marginal Risk is in place from northern Mississippi through much of
    Alabama to South Carolina and western North Carolina and for
    portions of Central Florida. There is an embedded Slight Risk area
    for North Florida, southern and central Georgia, and portions of
    eastern Alabama and southern South Carolina, which covers areas
    with the highest rain rate/flash flood potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    The upper low that will impact the Southeast over the weekend will
    finally gain some momentum and move north towards the Tennessee
    Valley on Monday. The accompanying surface low pressure system will
    slowly drift north as well, and moisture ahead of the system will
    expand from the Southeast into the southern Mid-Atlantic. Very high
    PWAT values of 1.5-2 inches will spread up the Southeast Atlantic
    Coast, and widespread heavy rain is forecast from Florida to
    Virginia.

    Inland areas in the upslope region of the Appalachians have lower
    FFGs in the rage of 2.5-3 inches per 6 hours while FFGs elsewhere
    are a bit higher at 3-4+ inches per 6 hours. The synoptic setup
    with prolonged onshore flow from the Atlantic will favor enhanced
    rainfall along the southern Appalachians, which is observed in
    model output from all available global models. There will be a high
    chance for 2-3 inches of rain, with potential for up to 4 inches,
    from northern Georgia to southern Virginia, which would likely
    cause at least scattered flash flooding concerns. High rainfall
    totals will also be possible in convergent areas along the coast
    from Florida to North Carolina, and 24 hour QPF totals are forecast
    to reach 1.5-2 inches with locally higher amounts expected with
    stronger convection. Many areas from Florida to South Carolina will
    have already received heavy rain over the weekend, which will
    increase the chance of flash flooding concerns with additional
    heavy rain on Monday. There is a fairly large Slight Risk area in
    place to cover the higher rainfall potential from Central and North
    Florida through eastern Georgia and the Carolinas to southern
    Virginia. The highest risk area within this region will be the
    southern Appalachians, which will need to be monitored in future
    forecast updates for potential ERO upgrades. Surrounding the Slight
    Risk area, a Marginal is in place from Florida to Virginia.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_ss3sLvwyLqPHPMPmE4vwTpcdDzu_htpoRGeroGitdJW= EIwYuPr2PpJfs6nf7TdwcXMzKiyA16_2Do8QGGJXlpKjv6I$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_ss3sLvwyLqPHPMPmE4vwTpcdDzu_htpoRGeroGitdJW= EIwYuPr2PpJfs6nf7TdwcXMzKiyA16_2Do8QGGJX2Dp8efU$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_ss3sLvwyLqPHPMPmE4vwTpcdDzu_htpoRGeroGitdJW= EIwYuPr2PpJfs6nf7TdwcXMzKiyA16_2Do8QGGJXfkVd2-U$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sat May 10 19:53:13 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 101953
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    353 PM EDT Sat May 10 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat May 10 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND SOUTHEASTERN ALABAMA...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...Southeast...

    No big changes were needed with this morning's update. The Slight
    and Marginal Risk areas are largely unchanged, short of a small
    carve out in the Marginal around the Big Bend region for higher
    FFGs there.

    The Slight remains in place for potential flash flooding
    from ongoing convection, but perhaps a bit more concern for
    potential additional convection in the area tonight. The jet stream
    has brought a plume of dry air into the area, which is greatly
    impacting convective coverage, even if locally increasing the
    potential instability. This dry air will for sure prevent much
    light rainfall outside of any convection, though that convection
    may have enough moisture from the lower levels to support a flash
    flooding threat. A large contributor to the flash flooding threat
    remains recent heavy rains, especially in the Florida Panhandle
    portion of the Slight, which have locally saturated the soils but
    it will still take a lot of heavy rain from any one or line of
    training storms to support the flash flooding threat there tonight
    since the soils are sandy and swampy in the area.

    The upper level low forcing the convection across the Southeast is
    still getting its act together, so the better forcing and more
    widespread convection is more likely into the Day 2/Sunday period.
    The broad Marginal remains in place for localized training
    convection, with little certainty on where exactly any associated
    flash flooding will occur.

    ...New England...

    In coordination with GYX/Gray, ME forecast office, the Marginal
    Risk was removed with this update. All of the rain in the area is
    of a stratiform nature, and is struggling to even reach 1/2 inch
    per hour rates based on radar estimates. While any additional
    rainfall especially into New Hampshire will contribute to any
    ongoing riverine flooding, the flash flooding threat from this
    system is very low. The rain will continue pivoting east with the
    back edge over central New Hampshire now crossing Maine and into
    New Brunswick by this evening. For much of Maine, soils are much
    drier due to missing recent heavy rainfall, so the flooding threat
    there is also very low.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    ...Southeast...

    A stationary upper low will remain parked over the Central Gulf
    Coast through the weekend. A potent shortwave trough will pivot
    around the upper low today, sparking convection across the
    Southeast. At the surface, a low pressure system slowly tracking
    north into the Central Gulf Coast states will become occluded, with
    nearly stationary frontal boundaries extending south into the Gulf
    and east to the Atlantic Coast. Thunderstorms are expected to form
    in the warm sector of the system today, with some overrunning
    precipitation on the northern side of the system as well. Heavy
    rain should initially focus on the Florida Panhandle this morning,
    then spread further into the Southeast and Florida peninsula
    throughout the day.

    Showers and storms tracking north along the frontal boundary that
    extends into the Gulf will result in areas of repeat convection in
    the Florida Panhandle and southeastern Alabama that will likely
    cause high rainfall totals over the span of a few hours. Storms
    will be capable of producing 2-3 inch per hour rain rates with
    ample moisture (PWAT>1.5 inches) and CAPE (>1500 J/kg) to tap into.
    FFGs in the Florida Panhandle and far southeastern Alabama have
    decreased to 3-5 inches in 3 hours, which will be in danger of
    being exceeded with areas of repeat convection today. Additionally,
    heavy rain fell last night/early this morning in the Florida
    Panhandle, which has helped to prime the ground and saturate soils
    ahead of more heavy rain today. To account for this heightened
    flood potential, a targeted Slight Risk area has been introduced
    for portions of the Florida Panhandle and far southeastern Alabama.

    Elsewhere in the Southeast, persistent areas of moderate rainfall
    are expected on the northern periphery, north of the west-east
    oriented stationary boundary. This should result in some decent
    rainfall accumulations today from central and northern Mississippi
    to South Carolina. The higher flood potential will be along and
    south of the frontal boundary where thunderstorm development is
    favored. Hi-res CAMs have been showing the potential for some more
    organized convection late this morning into this afternoon. Given a
    favorable environment with ample moisture and instability combined
    with 35-45 knots of effective bulk shear, strong thunderstorms
    that develop will be capable of producing high rain rates of 2+
    inches per hour and could approach the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in
    these areas. By this afternoon, showers and storms should also pick
    up along the Florida peninsula as diurnal heating increases. To
    cover these threats, a broad Marginal Risk area is in place from
    central Mississippi to South Carolina and to portions of North and
    Central Florida.


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    ...20Z Update...

    A few changes were made to the ongoing Slight Risk area across the
    Southeast for Sunday. In coordination with BMX/Birmingham, AL
    forecast office, the Slight was expanded westward across much of
    central Alabama in the expectation of additional heavy rains
    wrapping around the northwest side of the upper level low over
    Louisiana. In addition to rainfall today causing localized flash
    flooding, the area has seen multiple days of heavy rains recently,
    so the soils are near saturation and therefore likely to flash
    flood with the expected 1-2 inches of additional rain expected
    Sunday and Sunday night, though localized totals from thunderstorms
    will be higher.

    The other update was to expand the Slight Risk to include all of
    the South Carolina coast with this update. The Carolinas will be on
    the "warm" side of the system so abundant Gulf moisture will be
    drawn north, supporting training thunderstorms at times across all
    of the South Carolina coast. Including the lighter rains the area
    is seeing right now, soils will be saturated more quickly with the
    additional rainfall Sunday through Sunday night.

    The surrounding Marginal Risk was nudged northward in North
    Carolina as well as into Arkansas and Tennessee around Memphis. A
    narrow area of training showers and storms is probable across
    northern Mississippi, western Tennessee and eastern Arkansas.
    However, given the lack of moisture overall, especially as=20
    compared with areas further east, expect that rainfall rates will
    not be high enough to cause anything more than isolated flash
    flooding, despite somewhat saturated soils in that area. The
    forecast will be monitored for a possible Slight Risk issuance
    around Memphis with future updates.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Central Gulf Coast will elongate
    north-south as another upper level wave of energy moves over the
    Southeast on Sunday, and the direction of the mean layer flow will
    shift to become more directly onshore/perpendicular to the Gulf
    Coast. Meanwhile, a strengthening southern stream jet will create
    favorable divergence aloft in the left exit region positioned right
    over North Florida and southern Georgia in the afternoon/evening.
    At the surface, an occluded low pressure system will be very slowly
    moving north across the Southeast with a stationary front
    extending west to east across Georgia and South Carolina. This
    setup will support another wave of widespread showers and
    thunderstorms capable of producing heavy rain. Much of the region
    will have received heavy rain the day before (Saturday), resulting
    in more saturated soils that are potentially easier to flood.

    There is good agreement among models of widespread 2-3 inch totals
    through the period for North Florida and southern and central
    Georgia, with locally higher amounts up to 4+ inches possible. Hi-
    res CAMs (available through the first half of the period) suggest
    that storms developing Sunday afternoon will have the potential to
    produce rain rates of 2+ inches per hour. Given the moist, unstable
    air mass in place, some stronger/deep thunderstorms will be
    possible as well that could contribute to rain rates exceeding the
    1 and 3 hr FFGs of 3-4 inches. Some global models (mainly the ECMWF
    and CMC) are suggesting high moisture pushing even further inland
    with rainfall totals of 2-4 inches potentially reaching into
    western North Carolina along the upslope region of the southern
    Appalachians. Some heavy rainfall potential will also exist across
    portions of Mississippi and Alabama where showers and storms may
    develop in the vicinity of the surface low pressure center. A broad
    Marginal Risk is in place from northern Mississippi through much of
    Alabama to South Carolina and western North Carolina and for
    portions of Central Florida. There is an embedded Slight Risk area
    for North Florida, southern and central Georgia, and portions of
    eastern Alabama and southern South Carolina, which covers areas
    with the highest rain rate/flash flood potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...20Z Update...

    With increasing amounts of rainfall across the Southeast in the
    forecast, the Slight Risk area was expanded in all directions with
    this update.=20

    Most notably, portions of western North Carolina and far southern
    Virginia are very close to needing a Moderate Risk upgrade.
    Increasing rainfall, likely training, and abundant influx of
    Gulf/Atlantic moisture into the east facing slopes of the southern
    Appalachians may impact areas hard hit from Hurricane Helene last
    September. Thus, with some sensitivity in that area to prolonged
    rains, including embedded heavy rains, the area may need that
    upgrade with coming updates. For now there remains some uncertainty
    as to where training lines of storms will set up relative to the
    most impacted areas, as it may take prolonged heavy rain, rather
    than long duration light to moderate rain, to cause flooding
    impacts. For this reason the Moderate was skipped for now.

    A small northward trend was noted in the guidance, leading to more
    rainfall into the Appalachians and Piedmont of southern Virginia.
    The Slight Risk was expanded north with this update to the
    Shenandoah Valley, as well as into the Richmond metro.

    Down south, in coordination with MFL/Miami, FL Forecast office, the
    Slight Risk was expanded south along the coast through Miami.
    Stationary thunderstorms are likely along the sea breeze and a
    stalled front in that area. Should these storms form over the
    urbanized I-95 corridor, flash flooding is likely as a result.

    The Slight was expanded west to the Atlanta Metro due to long=20
    duration repeating rounds of rain expected to move over the city.=20
    The Marginal Risk was expanded well to the west into Arkansas for
    another day of widely scattered but potentially training
    thunderstorms.=20

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper low that will impact the Southeast over the weekend will
    finally gain some momentum and move north towards the Tennessee
    Valley on Monday. The accompanying surface low pressure system will
    slowly drift north as well, and moisture ahead of the system will
    expand from the Southeast into the southern Mid-Atlantic. Very high
    PWAT values of 1.5-2 inches will spread up the Southeast Atlantic
    Coast, and widespread heavy rain is forecast from Florida to
    Virginia.

    Inland areas in the upslope region of the Appalachians have lower
    FFGs in the rage of 2.5-3 inches per 6 hours while FFGs elsewhere
    are a bit higher at 3-4+ inches per 6 hours. The synoptic setup
    with prolonged onshore flow from the Atlantic will favor enhanced
    rainfall along the southern Appalachians, which is observed in
    model output from all available global models. There will be a high
    chance for 2-3 inches of rain, with potential for up to 4 inches,
    from northern Georgia to southern Virginia, which would likely
    cause at least scattered flash flooding concerns. High rainfall
    totals will also be possible in convergent areas along the coast
    from Florida to North Carolina, and 24 hour QPF totals are forecast
    to reach 1.5-2 inches with locally higher amounts expected with
    stronger convection. Many areas from Florida to South Carolina will
    have already received heavy rain over the weekend, which will
    increase the chance of flash flooding concerns with additional
    heavy rain on Monday. There is a fairly large Slight Risk area in
    place to cover the higher rainfall potential from Central and North
    Florida through eastern Georgia and the Carolinas to southern
    Virginia. The highest risk area within this region will be the
    southern Appalachians, which will need to be monitored in future
    forecast updates for potential ERO upgrades. Surrounding the Slight
    Risk area, a Marginal is in place from Florida to Virginia.

    Dolan


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    FOUS30 KWBC 110051
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    851 PM EDT Sat May 10 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Sun May 11 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND SOUTHEASTERN ALABAMA...

    Backbuilding cells are resulting in an isolated flash flood risk=20
    over central AL. Probabilities of 1" an hour rainfall drop off=20
    steadily this evening in both the 18z HREF and REFS over this=20
    region, and thus expect this flood risk to be on a decline as well.
    A localized flash flood risk will continue across portions of=20
    central to southeast GA into tonight. Convection will continue to=20
    move off to the northeast across this region, with some occasional=20 backbuilding into the southerly low level inflow locally enhancing=20
    rainfall totals. Localized rainfall over 3" could result in=20
    isolated flash flood concerns. By 06z-12 tonight some signal for=20
    possible backbuilding convection along the SC coast. The 23z HRRR=20
    outputs 3"+ amounts along coastal areas, with some 5"+ amounts just
    offshore. However it should be noted that HRRR run to run=20
    continuity over this area is low, suggesting low predictability.=20
    Both the 18z HREF and REFS neighborhood probability of exceeding 3"
    across this area are in the 20-30% range. Thus, while something to
    keep an eye on later tonight, confidence in convective evolution=20
    is low and not currently anticipating anything more than an=20
    isolated flash flood threat.

    The Slight risk was maintained for portions of the FL Panhandle
    into southeast AL. Overall probably a lower end Slight risk,=20
    however recent rainfall has increased soil saturation and another=20
    round of convection later tonight could thus result in an isolated=20
    to scattered flash flood risk. Recent HRRR runs, the 18z HREF and=20
    18z REFS all indicate an uptick in convection moving onshore into=20
    the FL Panhandle into southeast AL by late tonight into Sunday=20
    morning. The organization and intensity of this activity remains=20
    uncertain, but the neighborhood probability of 1"/hr rainfall in=20
    both the 18z HREF and REFS increases towards 50% by 12z, with 2"/hr
    probs closer to 20%. Typically would associate these values more=20
    with a Marginal risk, however given the likelihood of additional
    convection falling over areas that have already seen heavy rain,
    prefer to maintain continuity at this time...thus the Slight risk
    will remain.

    Chenard=20


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    ...20Z Update...

    A few changes were made to the ongoing Slight Risk area across the
    Southeast for Sunday. In coordination with BMX/Birmingham, AL
    forecast office, the Slight was expanded westward across much of
    central Alabama in the expectation of additional heavy rains
    wrapping around the northwest side of the upper level low over
    Louisiana. In addition to rainfall today causing localized flash
    flooding, the area has seen multiple days of heavy rains recently,
    so the soils are near saturation and therefore likely to flash
    flood with the expected 1-2 inches of additional rain expected
    Sunday and Sunday night, though localized totals from thunderstorms
    will be higher.

    The other update was to expand the Slight Risk to include all of
    the South Carolina coast with this update. The Carolinas will be on
    the "warm" side of the system so abundant Gulf moisture will be
    drawn north, supporting training thunderstorms at times across all
    of the South Carolina coast. Including the lighter rains the area
    is seeing right now, soils will be saturated more quickly with the
    additional rainfall Sunday through Sunday night.

    The surrounding Marginal Risk was nudged northward in North
    Carolina as well as into Arkansas and Tennessee around Memphis. A
    narrow area of training showers and storms is probable across
    northern Mississippi, western Tennessee and eastern Arkansas.
    However, given the lack of moisture overall, especially as
    compared with areas further east, expect that rainfall rates will
    not be high enough to cause anything more than isolated flash
    flooding, despite somewhat saturated soils in that area. The
    forecast will be monitored for a possible Slight Risk issuance
    around Memphis with future updates.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper level low over the Central Gulf Coast will elongate
    north-south as another upper level wave of energy moves over the
    Southeast on Sunday, and the direction of the mean layer flow will
    shift to become more directly onshore/perpendicular to the Gulf
    Coast. Meanwhile, a strengthening southern stream jet will create
    favorable divergence aloft in the left exit region positioned right
    over North Florida and southern Georgia in the afternoon/evening.
    At the surface, an occluded low pressure system will be very slowly
    moving north across the Southeast with a stationary front
    extending west to east across Georgia and South Carolina. This
    setup will support another wave of widespread showers and
    thunderstorms capable of producing heavy rain. Much of the region
    will have received heavy rain the day before (Saturday), resulting
    in more saturated soils that are potentially easier to flood.

    There is good agreement among models of widespread 2-3 inch totals
    through the period for North Florida and southern and central
    Georgia, with locally higher amounts up to 4+ inches possible. Hi-
    res CAMs (available through the first half of the period) suggest
    that storms developing Sunday afternoon will have the potential to
    produce rain rates of 2+ inches per hour. Given the moist, unstable
    air mass in place, some stronger/deep thunderstorms will be
    possible as well that could contribute to rain rates exceeding the
    1 and 3 hr FFGs of 3-4 inches. Some global models (mainly the ECMWF
    and CMC) are suggesting high moisture pushing even further inland
    with rainfall totals of 2-4 inches potentially reaching into
    western North Carolina along the upslope region of the southern
    Appalachians. Some heavy rainfall potential will also exist across
    portions of Mississippi and Alabama where showers and storms may
    develop in the vicinity of the surface low pressure center. A broad
    Marginal Risk is in place from northern Mississippi through much of
    Alabama to South Carolina and western North Carolina and for
    portions of Central Florida. There is an embedded Slight Risk area
    for North Florida, southern and central Georgia, and portions of
    eastern Alabama and southern South Carolina, which covers areas
    with the highest rain rate/flash flood potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...20Z Update...

    With increasing amounts of rainfall across the Southeast in the
    forecast, the Slight Risk area was expanded in all directions with
    this update.

    Most notably, portions of western North Carolina and far southern
    Virginia are very close to needing a Moderate Risk upgrade.
    Increasing rainfall, likely training, and abundant influx of
    Gulf/Atlantic moisture into the east facing slopes of the southern
    Appalachians may impact areas hard hit from Hurricane Helene last
    September. Thus, with some sensitivity in that area to prolonged
    rains, including embedded heavy rains, the area may need that
    upgrade with coming updates. For now there remains some uncertainty
    as to where training lines of storms will set up relative to the
    most impacted areas, as it may take prolonged heavy rain, rather
    than long duration light to moderate rain, to cause flooding
    impacts. For this reason the Moderate was skipped for now.

    A small northward trend was noted in the guidance, leading to more
    rainfall into the Appalachians and Piedmont of southern Virginia.
    The Slight Risk was expanded north with this update to the
    Shenandoah Valley, as well as into the Richmond metro.

    Down south, in coordination with MFL/Miami, FL Forecast office, the
    Slight Risk was expanded south along the coast through Miami.
    Stationary thunderstorms are likely along the sea breeze and a
    stalled front in that area. Should these storms form over the
    urbanized I-95 corridor, flash flooding is likely as a result.

    The Slight was expanded west to the Atlanta Metro due to long
    duration repeating rounds of rain expected to move over the city.
    The Marginal Risk was expanded well to the west into Arkansas for
    another day of widely scattered but potentially training
    thunderstorms.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The upper low that will impact the Southeast over the weekend will
    finally gain some momentum and move north towards the Tennessee
    Valley on Monday. The accompanying surface low pressure system will
    slowly drift north as well, and moisture ahead of the system will
    expand from the Southeast into the southern Mid-Atlantic. Very high
    PWAT values of 1.5-2 inches will spread up the Southeast Atlantic
    Coast, and widespread heavy rain is forecast from Florida to
    Virginia.

    Inland areas in the upslope region of the Appalachians have lower
    FFGs in the rage of 2.5-3 inches per 6 hours while FFGs elsewhere
    are a bit higher at 3-4+ inches per 6 hours. The synoptic setup
    with prolonged onshore flow from the Atlantic will favor enhanced
    rainfall along the southern Appalachians, which is observed in
    model output from all available global models. There will be a high
    chance for 2-3 inches of rain, with potential for up to 4 inches,
    from northern Georgia to southern Virginia, which would likely
    cause at least scattered flash flooding concerns. High rainfall
    totals will also be possible in convergent areas along the coast
    from Florida to North Carolina, and 24 hour QPF totals are forecast
    to reach 1.5-2 inches with locally higher amounts expected with
    stronger convection. Many areas from Florida to South Carolina will
    have already received heavy rain over the weekend, which will
    increase the chance of flash flooding concerns with additional
    heavy rain on Monday. There is a fairly large Slight Risk area in
    place to cover the higher rainfall potential from Central and North
    Florida through eastern Georgia and the Carolinas to southern
    Virginia. The highest risk area within this region will be the
    southern Appalachians, which will need to be monitored in future
    forecast updates for potential ERO upgrades. Surrounding the Slight
    Risk area, a Marginal is in place from Florida to Virginia.

    Dolan


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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun May 11 07:40:14 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 110739
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    339 AM EDT Sun May 11 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER MUCH OF THE
    SOUTHEAST...

    A stationary upper low will remain positioned over the Central=20
    Gulf Coast today while waves of upper level energy pivot around it=20
    over the Southeast. The low is expected to become slightly=20
    elongated north to south, resulting in strong southerly mean flow=20
    that will pump moisture from the Gulf directly into the Southeast.=20 Additionally, a southern stream jet is forecast to strengthen over=20
    the northern Gulf, creating favorable upper level divergence over=20
    North Florida and Georgia to support widespread shower and=20
    thunderstorm development. At the surface, an occluded low pressure=20
    system will be slowly moving north across the region, with a cold=20
    front extending south across the Florida Panhandle and a stationary
    front extending east across Georgia and South Carolina. The best=20
    conditions for heavy rain will be in the warm sector over North=20
    Florida and southern Georgia, but heavy rainfall will also be=20
    possible along and north of the stationary boundary up into=20
    portions of the Carolinas.=20

    With plentiful moisture (PWATs 1.5-2+ inches) and instability
    (MUCAPE 1500-2000+ J/kg), storms in the warm sector will be capable
    of producing 2-3+ inch per hour rain rates from Florida to South
    Carolina, which could lead to some flash flooding concerns given
    2-3 inch per hour FFGs. Flash flooding may also be a concern back
    into portions of Alabama and northern Mississippi where there will
    likely be enough moisture and instability in the vicinity of the
    surface low to produce showers and storms with 2+ inch per hour
    rain rates. Previous heavy rains have already saturated soils from
    Mississippi to Georgia, which will make these areas more sensitive
    to flooding with additional heavy rain today. To account for this
    flood potential there is a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall in
    place for much of the Southeast, including areas from North Florida
    to southern North Carolina and much of Alabama and northern
    Mississippi. The Slight Risk area is encompassed by a broader
    Marginal Risk that includes much of the Tennessee Valley, eastern
    Arkansas, upslope regions of the southern Appalachians, and Central
    Florida.=20

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    The nearly stationary upper low that impacted the Southeast over=20
    the weekend will finally gain some momentum and shift north towards
    the Tennessee Valley on Monday, pulling the surface low pressure=20
    system along with it. The trailing cold front will gradually push=20
    towards the Southeast Atlantic Coast while the warm front lifts=20
    into the southern Mid-Atlantic, and another round of widespread=20
    showers and storms are forecast Monday into Monday night in the=20
    warm sector of the system. Deep moisture will surge north ahead of=20
    the cold front, extending from Florida through the Carolinas to=20
    southern and central Virginia. PWATs are anticipated to reach=20
    1.5-2+ inches in these areas with even higher values possible over=20
    the Florida Peninsula. Strong south-southeasterly mean flow will=20
    remain in place, which will likely result in two convergent zones,=20
    one along the Southeast Coast and one along upslope regions of the=20
    southern Appalachians where high QPF totals will be possible.=20
    Strong diurnal convection over the Florida Peninsula will also=20
    contribute to high QPF values over portions of Central and South=20
    Florida.=20

    The largest flooding concerns will come with repeat/training=20
    activity, which could result in high QPF totals over a relatively=20
    short period of time, potentially reaching or exceeding the 1 and 3
    hour FFGs in these regions. To account for this flash flood risk,=20
    there is a Slight Risk area stretching from Florida up the=20
    Southeast Coast to North Carolina and southern Virginia and also=20
    for the upslope regions of the Appalachians from Georgia to=20
    Virginia. A Marginal Risk area extends even further into the Mid-
    Atlantic where moderate rain rates may contribute to localized=20
    flash flooding and into the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi Valleys=20
    where enough moisture will likely wrap around the surface low to=20
    create locally heavy rainfall in showers and storms.=20

    Upslope regions of the southern Appalachians are particularly
    sensitive to heavy rain, especially in areas that were impacted by
    Hurricane Helene. Impacts from heavy rain on Monday will likely
    fall into the high-end Slight Risk category, and ERO upgrades may
    be needed in the future if high QPF trends hold,. However,
    instability may be a limiting factor as the better instability is
    expected to reside along the coast. After coordinating with local
    forecast offices, it was decided to hold off on any upgrades at
    this time. By this afternoon, the CAMs will go out far enough to
    cover the entire Day 2 period and will likely give us a better idea
    of the magnitude of potential flooding impacts.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue=20
    to move north, triggering showers and storms across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. A deep stream of moisture ahead of the system=20
    will push PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough=20
    instability (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina=20
    and Virginia to support high rain rates in showers and storms. It=20
    seems likely that rain rates could reach or exceed the 1-2 inch per
    hour FFGs in Central Virginia (especially in upslope and urban=20
    areas), and possibly the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in southern=20
    Virginia and northeastern North Carolina as well. Models have been=20
    picking up on a faster trend with this system, but there is some=20
    uncertainty in how fast or slow it will move. This will affect the=20
    location of the heaviest rainfall in the warm sector and=20
    along/ahead of the cold front. The general consensus is for the=20
    highest totals to fall over Virginia and northern North Carolina,=20
    but some models are advancing heavy rain even further north.=20

    To account for the faster trend in guidance, the inherited Slight
    and Marginal Risk areas from the previous Day 4 ERO have been
    shifted north, with the Marginal extending up into portions of
    Pennsylvania and New Jersey. The southern edge of the Slight Risk
    area has been trimmed up to match QPF trends, and it was extended
    east to coastal Virginia where urban areas tend to be more
    sensitive to heavy rain and flooding. It's possible that the
    location of the Slight Risk will shift in future updates as the
    speed of the system becomes more certain.=20

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!75HrIMNfeJkoNWnd8Ps62lJW0jFa2IqWOehM9bRqYHc6= xK1OqEXr8tMBTgVHFSjY-ho8Sehlil97cXq53Pk_GeBknM4$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!75HrIMNfeJkoNWnd8Ps62lJW0jFa2IqWOehM9bRqYHc6= xK1OqEXr8tMBTgVHFSjY-ho8Sehlil97cXq53Pk_0nVSKd0$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!75HrIMNfeJkoNWnd8Ps62lJW0jFa2IqWOehM9bRqYHc6= xK1OqEXr8tMBTgVHFSjY-ho8Sehlil97cXq53Pk_GCpJGVc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 111556
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1156 AM EDT Sun May 11 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER MUCH OF THE
    SOUTHEAST...

    16z Update: The best signal for isolated to scattered flash
    flooding this afternoon/evening appears to be over portions of=20
    southeast GA into northeast FL where backbuilding cells will result
    in rainfall locally over 3 inches. In fact both 12z HREF and 06z=20
    REFS neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 5" are over 50%, and=20
    if/where this occurs would expect at least some minor flood=20
    concerns to develop.

    By this afternoon convection should develop over portions of
    central AL into MS closer to the deep layer low center. This
    activity will also likely exhibit some training/backbuilding
    characteristics resulting in an isolated to scattered flash flood
    risk. Some localized exceedance of 3" appear probable here, and
    both the HREF and REFS indicate some FFG exceedance probs as well.
    The Slight risk was expanded a bit to the west to account for this
    activity over MS.

    The northern edge of the Slight risk over the Carolinas was
    tightened a bit as the main flash flood risk here will likely be=20
    on day 2 (after 12z Monday). The Marginal risk was expanded=20
    southward to include the rest of the FL peninsula as slow moving=20
    convection may try to move into south FL overnight.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    A stationary upper low will remain positioned over the Central
    Gulf Coast today while waves of upper level energy pivot around it
    over the Southeast. The low is expected to become slightly
    elongated north to south, resulting in strong southerly mean flow
    that will pump moisture from the Gulf directly into the Southeast. Additionally, a southern stream jet is forecast to strengthen over
    the northern Gulf, creating favorable upper level divergence over
    North Florida and Georgia to support widespread shower and
    thunderstorm development. At the surface, an occluded low pressure
    system will be slowly moving north across the region, with a cold
    front extending south across the Florida Panhandle and a stationary
    front extending east across Georgia and South Carolina. The best
    conditions for heavy rain will be in the warm sector over North
    Florida and southern Georgia, but heavy rainfall will also be
    possible along and north of the stationary boundary up into
    portions of the Carolinas.

    With plentiful moisture (PWATs 1.5-2+ inches) and instability
    (MUCAPE 1500-2000+ J/kg), storms in the warm sector will be capable
    of producing 2-3+ inch per hour rain rates from Florida to South
    Carolina, which could lead to some flash flooding concerns given
    2-3 inch per hour FFGs. Flash flooding may also be a concern back
    into portions of Alabama and northern Mississippi where there will
    likely be enough moisture and instability in the vicinity of the
    surface low to produce showers and storms with 2+ inch per hour
    rain rates. Previous heavy rains have already saturated soils from
    Mississippi to Georgia, which will make these areas more sensitive
    to flooding with additional heavy rain today. To account for this
    flood potential there is a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall in
    place for much of the Southeast, including areas from North Florida
    to southern North Carolina and much of Alabama and northern
    Mississippi. The Slight Risk area is encompassed by a broader
    Marginal Risk that includes much of the Tennessee Valley, eastern
    Arkansas, upslope regions of the southern Appalachians, and Central
    Florida.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    The nearly stationary upper low that impacted the Southeast over
    the weekend will finally gain some momentum and shift north towards
    the Tennessee Valley on Monday, pulling the surface low pressure
    system along with it. The trailing cold front will gradually push
    towards the Southeast Atlantic Coast while the warm front lifts
    into the southern Mid-Atlantic, and another round of widespread
    showers and storms are forecast Monday into Monday night in the
    warm sector of the system. Deep moisture will surge north ahead of
    the cold front, extending from Florida through the Carolinas to
    southern and central Virginia. PWATs are anticipated to reach
    1.5-2+ inches in these areas with even higher values possible over
    the Florida Peninsula. Strong south-southeasterly mean flow will
    remain in place, which will likely result in two convergent zones,
    one along the Southeast Coast and one along upslope regions of the
    southern Appalachians where high QPF totals will be possible.
    Strong diurnal convection over the Florida Peninsula will also
    contribute to high QPF values over portions of Central and South
    Florida.

    The largest flooding concerns will come with repeat/training
    activity, which could result in high QPF totals over a relatively
    short period of time, potentially reaching or exceeding the 1 and 3
    hour FFGs in these regions. To account for this flash flood risk,
    there is a Slight Risk area stretching from Florida up the
    Southeast Coast to North Carolina and southern Virginia and also
    for the upslope regions of the Appalachians from Georgia to
    Virginia. A Marginal Risk area extends even further into the Mid-
    Atlantic where moderate rain rates may contribute to localized
    flash flooding and into the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi Valleys
    where enough moisture will likely wrap around the surface low to
    create locally heavy rainfall in showers and storms.

    Upslope regions of the southern Appalachians are particularly
    sensitive to heavy rain, especially in areas that were impacted by
    Hurricane Helene. Impacts from heavy rain on Monday will likely
    fall into the high-end Slight Risk category, and ERO upgrades may
    be needed in the future if high QPF trends hold,. However,
    instability may be a limiting factor as the better instability is
    expected to reside along the coast. After coordinating with local
    forecast offices, it was decided to hold off on any upgrades at
    this time. By this afternoon, the CAMs will go out far enough to
    cover the entire Day 2 period and will likely give us a better idea
    of the magnitude of potential flooding impacts.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue
    to move north, triggering showers and storms across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. A deep stream of moisture ahead of the system
    will push PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough
    instability (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina
    and Virginia to support high rain rates in showers and storms. It
    seems likely that rain rates could reach or exceed the 1-2 inch per
    hour FFGs in Central Virginia (especially in upslope and urban
    areas), and possibly the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in southern
    Virginia and northeastern North Carolina as well. Models have been
    picking up on a faster trend with this system, but there is some
    uncertainty in how fast or slow it will move. This will affect the
    location of the heaviest rainfall in the warm sector and
    along/ahead of the cold front. The general consensus is for the
    highest totals to fall over Virginia and northern North Carolina,
    but some models are advancing heavy rain even further north.

    To account for the faster trend in guidance, the inherited Slight
    and Marginal Risk areas from the previous Day 4 ERO have been
    shifted north, with the Marginal extending up into portions of
    Pennsylvania and New Jersey. The southern edge of the Slight Risk
    area has been trimmed up to match QPF trends, and it was extended
    east to coastal Virginia where urban areas tend to be more
    sensitive to heavy rain and flooding. It's possible that the
    location of the Slight Risk will shift in future updates as the
    speed of the system becomes more certain.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_tH47FY2rmano9F-j9mUKJVa4cw-_j15XPTAZsoNXYlY= 3E9TkORs8s643KKoCSkm0Axid3ik9TLKu5hkR-WVNDZLqmg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_tH47FY2rmano9F-j9mUKJVa4cw-_j15XPTAZsoNXYlY= 3E9TkORs8s643KKoCSkm0Axid3ik9TLKu5hkR-WVcF3lla8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_tH47FY2rmano9F-j9mUKJVa4cw-_j15XPTAZsoNXYlY= 3E9TkORs8s643KKoCSkm0Axid3ik9TLKu5hkR-WV-qMeiYU$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Sun May 11 20:29:14 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 112029
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    429 PM EDT Sun May 11 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun May 11 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER MUCH OF THE
    SOUTHEAST...

    16z Update: The best signal for isolated to scattered flash
    flooding this afternoon/evening appears to be over portions of
    southeast GA into northeast FL where backbuilding cells will result
    in rainfall locally over 3 inches. In fact both 12z HREF and 06z
    REFS neighborhood probabilities of exceeding 5" are over 50%, and
    if/where this occurs would expect at least some minor flood
    concerns to develop.

    By this afternoon convection should develop over portions of
    central AL into MS closer to the deep layer low center. This
    activity will also likely exhibit some training/backbuilding
    characteristics resulting in an isolated to scattered flash flood
    risk. Some localized exceedance of 3" appear probable here, and
    both the HREF and REFS indicate some FFG exceedance probs as well.
    The Slight risk was expanded a bit to the west to account for this
    activity over MS.

    The northern edge of the Slight risk over the Carolinas was
    tightened a bit as the main flash flood risk here will likely be
    on day 2 (after 12z Monday). The Marginal risk was expanded
    southward to include the rest of the FL peninsula as slow moving
    convection may try to move into south FL overnight.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    A stationary upper low will remain positioned over the Central
    Gulf Coast today while waves of upper level energy pivot around it
    over the Southeast. The low is expected to become slightly
    elongated north to south, resulting in strong southerly mean flow
    that will pump moisture from the Gulf directly into the Southeast. Additionally, a southern stream jet is forecast to strengthen over
    the northern Gulf, creating favorable upper level divergence over
    North Florida and Georgia to support widespread shower and
    thunderstorm development. At the surface, an occluded low pressure
    system will be slowly moving north across the region, with a cold
    front extending south across the Florida Panhandle and a stationary
    front extending east across Georgia and South Carolina. The best
    conditions for heavy rain will be in the warm sector over North
    Florida and southern Georgia, but heavy rainfall will also be
    possible along and north of the stationary boundary up into
    portions of the Carolinas.

    With plentiful moisture (PWATs 1.5-2+ inches) and instability
    (MUCAPE 1500-2000+ J/kg), storms in the warm sector will be capable
    of producing 2-3+ inch per hour rain rates from Florida to South
    Carolina, which could lead to some flash flooding concerns given
    2-3 inch per hour FFGs. Flash flooding may also be a concern back
    into portions of Alabama and northern Mississippi where there will
    likely be enough moisture and instability in the vicinity of the
    surface low to produce showers and storms with 2+ inch per hour
    rain rates. Previous heavy rains have already saturated soils from
    Mississippi to Georgia, which will make these areas more sensitive
    to flooding with additional heavy rain today. To account for this
    flood potential there is a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall in
    place for much of the Southeast, including areas from North Florida
    to southern North Carolina and much of Alabama and northern
    Mississippi. The Slight Risk area is encompassed by a broader
    Marginal Risk that includes much of the Tennessee Valley, eastern
    Arkansas, upslope regions of the southern Appalachians, and Central
    Florida.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    20z Update: Continue to be very close to needing a MDT risk=20
    upgrade across the upslope areas of the southern Appalachians, but
    we will hold at a higher end Slight risk for now. Orographically
    enhanced rainfall and embedded convective elements periodically=20
    pushing rainfall rates over 1"/hr will likely drive at least a=20
    minor flash flood risk across this portion of the western=20
    Carolinas and southwest VA. However confidence on seeing more=20
    significant higher end impacts remains lower. With easterly low=20
    level flow in place over this corridor the better instability may
    tend to stay farther south over GA/SC and over the eastern=20
    Carolinas. Probabilities of exceeding 1"/hr in the HREF peak=20
    around 40-50% in the 12z HREF and REFS, likely indicative of some=20 exceedance, but probably not widespread. It will likely take these=20
    higher rates of 1-2"/hr or greater to drive more significant=20
    impacts.=20

    The currently forecast 3-7" of rainfall, combined with=20
    embedded rates of 0.5"-1"/hr should be enough to drive at least=20
    scattered instances of minor flash flooding, with localized more=20
    significant impacts still possible. For now the expectation of=20
    scattered minor flash flood and localized higher end impacts falls=20
    more into the high end Slight risk category. If confidence in=20
    greater coverage of higher rainfall rates increases, that would in=20
    turn increase the potential for higher end impacts and justify a=20
    MDT risk upgrade. Will thus continue to closely monitor.

    The southeastern FL urban corridor is another area of concern for
    flash flooding Monday. Neighborhood probability of exceeding 8"=20
    are over 50% in both the 12z HREF and REFS and some deterministic=20
    members are over 10". Overall seems like a favorable synoptic=20
    setup for training convection and thus higher end urban impacts=20
    are possible. Not confident enough yet to go with a MDT risk=20
    upgrade, however do consider this a higher end Slight risk and the
    potential is certainly there for significant urban impacts. We=20
    will continue to monitor observational and model trends.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The nearly stationary upper low that impacted the Southeast over
    the weekend will finally gain some momentum and shift north towards
    the Tennessee Valley on Monday, pulling the surface low pressure
    system along with it. The trailing cold front will gradually push
    towards the Southeast Atlantic Coast while the warm front lifts
    into the southern Mid-Atlantic, and another round of widespread
    showers and storms are forecast Monday into Monday night in the
    warm sector of the system. Deep moisture will surge north ahead of
    the cold front, extending from Florida through the Carolinas to
    southern and central Virginia. PWATs are anticipated to reach
    1.5-2+ inches in these areas with even higher values possible over
    the Florida Peninsula. Strong south-southeasterly mean flow will
    remain in place, which will likely result in two convergent zones,
    one along the Southeast Coast and one along upslope regions of the
    southern Appalachians where high QPF totals will be possible.
    Strong diurnal convection over the Florida Peninsula will also
    contribute to high QPF values over portions of Central and South
    Florida.

    The largest flooding concerns will come with repeat/training
    activity, which could result in high QPF totals over a relatively
    short period of time, potentially reaching or exceeding the 1 and 3
    hour FFGs in these regions. To account for this flash flood risk,
    there is a Slight Risk area stretching from Florida up the
    Southeast Coast to North Carolina and southern Virginia and also
    for the upslope regions of the Appalachians from Georgia to
    Virginia. A Marginal Risk area extends even further into the Mid-
    Atlantic where moderate rain rates may contribute to localized
    flash flooding and into the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi Valleys
    where enough moisture will likely wrap around the surface low to
    create locally heavy rainfall in showers and storms.

    Upslope regions of the southern Appalachians are particularly
    sensitive to heavy rain, especially in areas that were impacted by
    Hurricane Helene. Impacts from heavy rain on Monday will likely
    fall into the high-end Slight Risk category, and ERO upgrades may
    be needed in the future if high QPF trends hold,. However,
    instability may be a limiting factor as the better instability is
    expected to reside along the coast. After coordinating with local
    forecast offices, it was decided to hold off on any upgrades at
    this time. By this afternoon, the CAMs will go out far enough to
    cover the entire Day 2 period and will likely give us a better idea
    of the magnitude of potential flooding impacts.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    20z Update: The Slight and Marginal risk areas were expanded a bit
    to the west with this update. The Marginal risk covers more of the
    OH valley where slow moving convection ahead of the deep layered=20
    low could result in localized flash flooding. The Slight risk is=20
    expanded into more of the central Appalachians. Overall still=20
    looks like a solid Slight risk from northeast NC into the portions=20
    of eastern WV. Convection near a stalled boundary should result in
    an isolated to scattered flash flood risk. Will need to closely=20
    monitor, as the slow moving closed low and a stationary boundary=20
    does suggests some higher end impact potential Tuesday within the=20
    Slight risk area.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue
    to move north, triggering showers and storms across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. A deep stream of moisture ahead of the system
    will push PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough
    instability (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina
    and Virginia to support high rain rates in showers and storms. It
    seems likely that rain rates could reach or exceed the 1-2 inch per
    hour FFGs in Central Virginia (especially in upslope and urban
    areas), and possibly the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in southern
    Virginia and northeastern North Carolina as well. Models have been
    picking up on a faster trend with this system, but there is some
    uncertainty in how fast or slow it will move. This will affect the
    location of the heaviest rainfall in the warm sector and
    along/ahead of the cold front. The general consensus is for the
    highest totals to fall over Virginia and northern North Carolina,
    but some models are advancing heavy rain even further north.

    To account for the faster trend in guidance, the inherited Slight
    and Marginal Risk areas from the previous Day 4 ERO have been
    shifted north, with the Marginal extending up into portions of
    Pennsylvania and New Jersey. The southern edge of the Slight Risk
    area has been trimmed up to match QPF trends, and it was extended
    east to coastal Virginia where urban areas tend to be more
    sensitive to heavy rain and flooding. It's possible that the
    location of the Slight Risk will shift in future updates as the
    speed of the system becomes more certain.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-qWvfywJDyz3btDSdyo-ZVQjPScOqp0_O9qCDNZblQ2B= Jh6iRXJYu3d2ZKkHV56zlbxsAdFtCIBPq4VYs9kFOEjPsTM$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-qWvfywJDyz3btDSdyo-ZVQjPScOqp0_O9qCDNZblQ2B= Jh6iRXJYu3d2ZKkHV56zlbxsAdFtCIBPq4VYs9kFnJpm8yc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-qWvfywJDyz3btDSdyo-ZVQjPScOqp0_O9qCDNZblQ2B= Jh6iRXJYu3d2ZKkHV56zlbxsAdFtCIBPq4VYs9kFm9D9QL8$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon May 12 00:55:41 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 120055
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    855 PM EDT Sun May 11 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Mon May 12 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    Isolated to scattered flash flooding will remain a concern=20
    overnight across portions of southeast GA and southern SC. Some of
    this area has already seen training convection and some flash=20
    flooding earlier today, and additional convection is streaming=20
    northward back into the region. The latest SPC mesoanalysis depicts
    an area of instability offshore, and with easterly low level flow,=20
    this will likely advect inland and help sustain convection across=20
    these areas. Expect periodic backbuilding/training to persist, and
    some additional flash flooding is likely. The REFS has been=20
    favoring this corridor for heavy rainfall with both its 12z and=20
    18z run, but the HREF and recent HRRR runs have not been as=20
    aggressive. However the 23z HRRR run did make a pretty significant
    jump towards a wetter scenario...and based on observational=20
    trends...it does appear like something closer to the wetter=20
    guidance may indeed pan out. Opted against a MDT risk given some=20
    lingering uncertainty on the location and coverage of higher=20
    amounts, along with much of the coastal plain having high FFG...but
    do now consider this a higher end Slight risk and localized higher
    end impacts are possible.

    We also maintained a Slight risk across portions of central AL=20
    into northern MS. Convection to the east of the deep layered low=20
    will continue to pose an isolated to scattered flash flood risk.=20
    Some recent indications that an uptick in activity may be starting
    to occur across portions of central AL. Guidance indicates some=20
    maintenance of this convection through the evening hours, so do=20
    anticipate some increase in the flash flood potential.

    A Marginal risk covers much of FL. Convective evolution is less=20
    certain here...but do expect to see scattered to numerous showers=20
    and thunderstorms. The combination of low confidence in model=20
    solutions over FL and the high FFG keeps the risk at Marginal. It=20
    is possible that none of the convection organizes enough or trains=20
    long enough to cause flash flooding overnight...but can not rule=20
    out some training segments hanging up and resulting in isolated=20
    flash flood concerns.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHERN MID-ATLANTIC...

    20z Update: Continue to be very close to needing a MDT risk
    upgrade across the upslope areas of the southern Appalachians, but
    we will hold at a higher end Slight risk for now. Orographically
    enhanced rainfall and embedded convective elements periodically
    pushing rainfall rates over 1"/hr will likely drive at least a
    minor flash flood risk across this portion of the western
    Carolinas and southwest VA. However confidence on seeing more
    significant higher end impacts remains lower. With easterly low
    level flow in place over this corridor the better instability may
    tend to stay farther south over GA/SC and over the eastern
    Carolinas. Probabilities of exceeding 1"/hr in the HREF peak
    around 40-50% in the 12z HREF and REFS, likely indicative of some
    exceedance, but probably not widespread. It will likely take these
    higher rates of 1-2"/hr or greater to drive more significant
    impacts.

    The currently forecast 3-7" of rainfall, combined with
    embedded rates of 0.5"-1"/hr should be enough to drive at least
    scattered instances of minor flash flooding, with localized more
    significant impacts still possible. For now the expectation of
    scattered minor flash flood and localized higher end impacts falls
    more into the high end Slight risk category. If confidence in
    greater coverage of higher rainfall rates increases, that would in
    turn increase the potential for higher end impacts and justify a
    MDT risk upgrade. Will thus continue to closely monitor.

    The southeastern FL urban corridor is another area of concern for
    flash flooding Monday. Neighborhood probability of exceeding 8"
    are over 50% in both the 12z HREF and REFS and some deterministic
    members are over 10". Overall seems like a favorable synoptic
    setup for training convection and thus higher end urban impacts
    are possible. Not confident enough yet to go with a MDT risk
    upgrade, however do consider this a higher end Slight risk and the
    potential is certainly there for significant urban impacts. We
    will continue to monitor observational and model trends.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The nearly stationary upper low that impacted the Southeast over
    the weekend will finally gain some momentum and shift north towards
    the Tennessee Valley on Monday, pulling the surface low pressure
    system along with it. The trailing cold front will gradually push
    towards the Southeast Atlantic Coast while the warm front lifts
    into the southern Mid-Atlantic, and another round of widespread
    showers and storms are forecast Monday into Monday night in the
    warm sector of the system. Deep moisture will surge north ahead of
    the cold front, extending from Florida through the Carolinas to
    southern and central Virginia. PWATs are anticipated to reach
    1.5-2+ inches in these areas with even higher values possible over
    the Florida Peninsula. Strong south-southeasterly mean flow will
    remain in place, which will likely result in two convergent zones,
    one along the Southeast Coast and one along upslope regions of the
    southern Appalachians where high QPF totals will be possible.
    Strong diurnal convection over the Florida Peninsula will also
    contribute to high QPF values over portions of Central and South
    Florida.

    The largest flooding concerns will come with repeat/training
    activity, which could result in high QPF totals over a relatively
    short period of time, potentially reaching or exceeding the 1 and 3
    hour FFGs in these regions. To account for this flash flood risk,
    there is a Slight Risk area stretching from Florida up the
    Southeast Coast to North Carolina and southern Virginia and also
    for the upslope regions of the Appalachians from Georgia to
    Virginia. A Marginal Risk area extends even further into the Mid-
    Atlantic where moderate rain rates may contribute to localized
    flash flooding and into the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi Valleys
    where enough moisture will likely wrap around the surface low to
    create locally heavy rainfall in showers and storms.

    Upslope regions of the southern Appalachians are particularly
    sensitive to heavy rain, especially in areas that were impacted by
    Hurricane Helene. Impacts from heavy rain on Monday will likely
    fall into the high-end Slight Risk category, and ERO upgrades may
    be needed in the future if high QPF trends hold,. However,
    instability may be a limiting factor as the better instability is
    expected to reside along the coast. After coordinating with local
    forecast offices, it was decided to hold off on any upgrades at
    this time. By this afternoon, the CAMs will go out far enough to
    cover the entire Day 2 period and will likely give us a better idea
    of the magnitude of potential flooding impacts.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    20z Update: The Slight and Marginal risk areas were expanded a bit
    to the west with this update. The Marginal risk covers more of the
    OH valley where slow moving convection ahead of the deep layered
    low could result in localized flash flooding. The Slight risk is
    expanded into more of the central Appalachians. Overall still
    looks like a solid Slight risk from northeast NC into the portions
    of eastern WV. Convection near a stalled boundary should result in
    an isolated to scattered flash flood risk. Will need to closely
    monitor, as the slow moving closed low and a stationary boundary
    does suggests some higher end impact potential Tuesday within the
    Slight risk area.

    Chenard

    ...Previous Discussion...

    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue
    to move north, triggering showers and storms across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. A deep stream of moisture ahead of the system
    will push PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough
    instability (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina
    and Virginia to support high rain rates in showers and storms. It
    seems likely that rain rates could reach or exceed the 1-2 inch per
    hour FFGs in Central Virginia (especially in upslope and urban
    areas), and possibly the 2.5-3 inch per hour FFGs in southern
    Virginia and northeastern North Carolina as well. Models have been
    picking up on a faster trend with this system, but there is some
    uncertainty in how fast or slow it will move. This will affect the
    location of the heaviest rainfall in the warm sector and
    along/ahead of the cold front. The general consensus is for the
    highest totals to fall over Virginia and northern North Carolina,
    but some models are advancing heavy rain even further north.

    To account for the faster trend in guidance, the inherited Slight
    and Marginal Risk areas from the previous Day 4 ERO have been
    shifted north, with the Marginal extending up into portions of
    Pennsylvania and New Jersey. The southern edge of the Slight Risk
    area has been trimmed up to match QPF trends, and it was extended
    east to coastal Virginia where urban areas tend to be more
    sensitive to heavy rain and flooding. It's possible that the
    location of the Slight Risk will shift in future updates as the
    speed of the system becomes more certain.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GjBfxrS-_dhEbkP78K_nfRbIZkT2oEhVVpxIJaxv8cb= hHJTOoM74fC6AP60KVkKDPaiJAk9pbE8cap_ZrTvBj5Ig_A$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GjBfxrS-_dhEbkP78K_nfRbIZkT2oEhVVpxIJaxv8cb= hHJTOoM74fC6AP60KVkKDPaiJAk9pbE8cap_ZrTvwEK0ryY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7GjBfxrS-_dhEbkP78K_nfRbIZkT2oEhVVpxIJaxv8cb= hHJTOoM74fC6AP60KVkKDPaiJAk9pbE8cap_ZrTvA9RMqGM$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 120803
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    403 AM EDT Mon May 12 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    A deep upper low will be slowly moving north towards the Tennessee
    Valley, dragging a surface low pressure system north with it. The=20
    trailing cold front will gradually push towards the Atlantic Coast=20
    while the warm front lifts north into the southern mid-Atlantic.=20
    This system will direct a stream of deep anomalous moisture into=20
    the Southeast and Mid-Atlantic that will support widespread showers
    and storms with heavy rain potential across these regions. PWATs=20
    are expected to surge to over 1.5 inches from Virginia to Georgia=20
    and over 2 inches over the Florida Peninsula, which will certainly=20
    provide the needed moisture for elevated rain rates in stronger=20 convection.=20

    A Moderate Risk area has been introduced for the urban corridor of
    Southeast Florida where heavy rain may result in significant=20
    flooding impacts. The synoptic setup is favorable for a heavy rain=20
    event over South Florida with deep moisture and southerly winds=20
    shifting to southwesterly ahead of an approaching cold front. Waves
    of showers and storms are expected throughout the period, and=20
    there will be plenty of moisture and instability to support high=20
    rain rates in excess of 2 inches per hour. CAMs are showing the=20
    potential for 3-4, locally up to seven, inches of rain possible=20
    today. Yesterday's 18Z HREF was showing 60-70% probability of 24=20
    hour QPF exceeding 8 inches, but the 00Z HREF dropped probabilities
    of 8 inches in 24 hours down to 40-50%, indicating some=20
    uncertainty in how high the max QPF amounts may be. Regardless of=20
    the exact amount, flooding impacts are likely for the urban=20
    corridor of Southeast Florida.=20

    To the north, strong south-southeasterly mean flow will focus QPF=20
    maxes along the Carolina Coast and along upslope regions of the=20
    southern Appalachians. CAMs have consistently shown 2-4 inches of=20 precipitation, with locally higher amounts possible, over the 24=20
    hour period in these areas. There was discussion about potentially=20
    upgrading to a Moderate Risk for sensitive areas in the=20
    Appalachians, but it was decided to remain at a high-end Slight=20
    Risk given a lack of instability and limited rain rates. Rain rates
    could periodically exceed 1 inch per hour, which would support=20
    isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns for the western=20
    Carolinas and Southwestern Virginia, but most likely would not=20
    support a risk higher than Slight. The higher rain rates (1-2=20
    inches per hour) are expected to be in convection near the coasts=20
    where instability will be higher.=20

    To cover these flooding threats, a Slight Risk area extends from
    Virginia to the Florida peninsula. There will also be localized
    heavy rain potential across the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi
    Valleys, Mississippi, and Alabama. There will be decent instability
    in the vicinity of the surface low to produce convection with 1
    inch per hour rain rates. Given that soils in these regions are
    saturated from recent heavy rains, isolated flooding concerns will
    be possible, and therefore a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is
    in place.=20

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue=20
    to move north, and showers and storms will focus across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. Deep moisture ahead of the system will push=20
    PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough instability=20
    (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina and Virginia
    to support high rain rates (1-2 inch per hour), which may rival 1=20
    and 3 hr FFGs. Upslope flow along the Appalachians from southern=20 Pennsylvania through Virginia will also help to enhance rainfall,=20
    with generally 1.5-2.5 inches of rain expected across this area=20
    with locally higher amounts possible. After heavy rain on Monday,=20
    these areas may be more sensitive to flooding given higher soil=20
    moisture, and isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns are=20
    expected. This will warrant a continuation of the Slight Risk area=20
    from northeastern North Carolina through Virginia and portions of=20
    West Virginia, Maryland, and southern Pennsylvania.=20

    Isolated flash flooding may also be possible for portions of the
    Ohio Valley and Appalachians. Moisture wrapping around the northern
    side of the low pressure system combined with sufficient
    instability near the surface low will support scattered convection
    with relatively slow storm motion. Therefore, a Marginal Risk is in
    place for these regions.=20

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the Northwest to the=20
    Plains on Wednesday, resulting in a strengthening low pressure=20
    system in the northern Plains. Stratiform rain with likely some=20
    embedded convection on the northern and western side of the low are
    forecast to produce 0.5-1 inches of rain, with locally higher=20
    amounts possible, in eastern Montana and northeastern Wyoming. The=20
    main threat will be due to the persistent nature of the=20
    precipitation in this area, starting up Tuesday night and=20
    continuing through Wednesday into Wednesday night. Rainfall totals=20
    will likely come close to the 6 hour FFGs in eastern Montana.=20

    For the Dakotas, convective precipitation is forecast to develop=20
    ahead of the low along a strengthening frontal boundary. Models are
    in good agreement on the axis of heaviest precipitation setting up
    over central North Dakota and eastern South Dakota. PWAT values=20
    are expected to be at least 2 standard deviations above normal=20
    (1-1.5 inches), and there should be enough instability (MUCAPE >=20
    1500 J/kg) during the day on Wednesday to support at least an=20
    isolated flash flood threat.=20

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic after heavy rain on Monday and Tuesday, which may create a
    low end flood threat with lingering showers on Wednesday. The=20
    slow-moving surface low is forecast to track right over the Mid-
    Atlantic with scattered precipitation, and there should be enough=20 instability near the low to support some convection capable of=20
    producing locally heavy rain. Therefore, a Marginal Risk area was=20
    introduced for portions of the Mid-Atlantic.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8SxSJq2Z0GwLpKItNufL-lOIIctk23opc_LLLiOlJqLs= udVMfrnJDt_uvKVffw-nYpW_6HG2HxUag-QnIc3ctf6qWiE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8SxSJq2Z0GwLpKItNufL-lOIIctk23opc_LLLiOlJqLs= udVMfrnJDt_uvKVffw-nYpW_6HG2HxUag-QnIc3cOmHSIiA$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8SxSJq2Z0GwLpKItNufL-lOIIctk23opc_LLLiOlJqLs= udVMfrnJDt_uvKVffw-nYpW_6HG2HxUag-QnIc3caBRlDUQ$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon May 12 15:33:25 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 121532
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1132 AM EDT Mon May 12 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    16Z Update:=20

    The inherited Day 1 outlook remains in good shape with only=20
    minimal adjustments made to the 16Z update based on current=20
    observations and radar trends. For the Moderate Risk area for the=20
    Greater Miami area, no significant adjustments were made. Morning
    heavy rain has exited the coast, with a brief lull expected=20
    through the afternoon. A conditional threat of another round or two
    of heavy rainfall exists through tonight ahead of an approaching=20
    front with potentially an additional 2-4" (locally higher). This=20
    rainfall on top of the locally 1-4" that fell over the past 24=20
    hours could bring renewed urban flooding issues. The HREF and REFS=20 probabilities suggest some isolated/localized 2" hourly totals.=20

    A higher-end Slight exists across much of North Carolina with
    potential of widespread 1-3" of rain through tonight. Locally
    higher amounts will be possible across the upslope region of
    western NC as well as portions of central to eastern NC. Isolated
    rain rates above 2"/hr will be possible, particularly in the=20
    eastern areas. This could cause isolated to scattered flooding=20
    issues, particularly for urban areas and in areas of terrain.=20

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    A deep upper low will be slowly moving north towards the Tennessee
    Valley, dragging a surface low pressure system north with it. The
    trailing cold front will gradually push towards the Atlantic Coast
    while the warm front lifts north into the southern mid-Atlantic.
    This system will direct a stream of deep anomalous moisture into
    the Southeast and Mid-Atlantic that will support widespread showers
    and storms with heavy rain potential across these regions. PWATs
    are expected to surge to over 1.5 inches from Virginia to Georgia
    and over 2 inches over the Florida Peninsula, which will certainly
    provide the needed moisture for elevated rain rates in stronger
    convection.

    A Moderate Risk area has been introduced for the urban corridor of
    Southeast Florida where heavy rain may result in significant
    flooding impacts. The synoptic setup is favorable for a heavy rain
    event over South Florida with deep moisture and southerly winds
    shifting to southwesterly ahead of an approaching cold front. Waves
    of showers and storms are expected throughout the period, and
    there will be plenty of moisture and instability to support high
    rain rates in excess of 2 inches per hour. CAMs are showing the
    potential for 3-4, locally up to seven, inches of rain possible
    today. Yesterday's 18Z HREF was showing 60-70% probability of 24
    hour QPF exceeding 8 inches, but the 00Z HREF dropped probabilities
    of 8 inches in 24 hours down to 40-50%, indicating some
    uncertainty in how high the max QPF amounts may be. Regardless of
    the exact amount, flooding impacts are likely for the urban
    corridor of Southeast Florida.

    To the north, strong south-southeasterly mean flow will focus QPF
    maxes along the Carolina Coast and along upslope regions of the
    southern Appalachians. CAMs have consistently shown 2-4 inches of precipitation, with locally higher amounts possible, over the 24
    hour period in these areas. There was discussion about potentially
    upgrading to a Moderate Risk for sensitive areas in the
    Appalachians, but it was decided to remain at a high-end Slight
    Risk given a lack of instability and limited rain rates. Rain rates
    could periodically exceed 1 inch per hour, which would support
    isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns for the western
    Carolinas and Southwestern Virginia, but most likely would not
    support a risk higher than Slight. The higher rain rates (1-2
    inches per hour) are expected to be in convection near the coasts
    where instability will be higher.

    To cover these flooding threats, a Slight Risk area extends from
    Virginia to the Florida peninsula. There will also be localized
    heavy rain potential across the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi
    Valleys, Mississippi, and Alabama. There will be decent instability
    in the vicinity of the surface low to produce convection with 1
    inch per hour rain rates. Given that soils in these regions are
    saturated from recent heavy rains, isolated flooding concerns will
    be possible, and therefore a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is
    in place.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue
    to move north, and showers and storms will focus across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. Deep moisture ahead of the system will push
    PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough instability
    (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina and Virginia
    to support high rain rates (1-2 inch per hour), which may rival 1
    and 3 hr FFGs. Upslope flow along the Appalachians from southern
    Pennsylvania through Virginia will also help to enhance rainfall,
    with generally 1.5-2.5 inches of rain expected across this area
    with locally higher amounts possible. After heavy rain on Monday,
    these areas may be more sensitive to flooding given higher soil
    moisture, and isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns are
    expected. This will warrant a continuation of the Slight Risk area
    from northeastern North Carolina through Virginia and portions of
    West Virginia, Maryland, and southern Pennsylvania.

    Isolated flash flooding may also be possible for portions of the
    Ohio Valley and Appalachians. Moisture wrapping around the northern
    side of the low pressure system combined with sufficient
    instability near the surface low will support scattered convection
    with relatively slow storm motion. Therefore, a Marginal Risk is in
    place for these regions.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the Northwest to the
    Plains on Wednesday, resulting in a strengthening low pressure
    system in the northern Plains. Stratiform rain with likely some
    embedded convection on the northern and western side of the low are
    forecast to produce 0.5-1 inches of rain, with locally higher
    amounts possible, in eastern Montana and northeastern Wyoming. The
    main threat will be due to the persistent nature of the
    precipitation in this area, starting up Tuesday night and
    continuing through Wednesday into Wednesday night. Rainfall totals
    will likely come close to the 6 hour FFGs in eastern Montana.

    For the Dakotas, convective precipitation is forecast to develop
    ahead of the low along a strengthening frontal boundary. Models are
    in good agreement on the axis of heaviest precipitation setting up
    over central North Dakota and eastern South Dakota. PWAT values
    are expected to be at least 2 standard deviations above normal
    (1-1.5 inches), and there should be enough instability (MUCAPE >
    1500 J/kg) during the day on Wednesday to support at least an
    isolated flash flood threat.

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic after heavy rain on Monday and Tuesday, which may create a
    low end flood threat with lingering showers on Wednesday. The
    slow-moving surface low is forecast to track right over the Mid-
    Atlantic with scattered precipitation, and there should be enough
    instability near the low to support some convection capable of
    producing locally heavy rain. Therefore, a Marginal Risk area was
    introduced for portions of the Mid-Atlantic.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_Gh2vGpyG34W3IJh9rsDMYHHaXJtAf_XqRqJsqcp5qEL= VwHKLNrp1jGL26fovYVu7lxfI3VyRMJe5H8A9a9irNVbFXw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_Gh2vGpyG34W3IJh9rsDMYHHaXJtAf_XqRqJsqcp5qEL= VwHKLNrp1jGL26fovYVu7lxfI3VyRMJe5H8A9a9ijyTGJrc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_Gh2vGpyG34W3IJh9rsDMYHHaXJtAf_XqRqJsqcp5qEL= VwHKLNrp1jGL26fovYVu7lxfI3VyRMJe5H8A9a9i4LqShhE$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Mon May 12 20:16:39 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 122016
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    416 PM EDT Mon May 12 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Mon May 12 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER SOUTHEAST
    FLORIDA...

    16Z Update:

    The inherited Day 1 outlook remains in good shape with only
    minimal adjustments made to the 16Z update based on current
    observations and radar trends. For the Moderate Risk area for the
    Greater Miami area, no significant adjustments were made. Morning
    heavy rain has exited the coast, with a brief lull expected
    through the afternoon. A conditional threat of another round or two
    of heavy rainfall exists through tonight ahead of an approaching
    front with potentially an additional 2-4" (locally higher). This
    rainfall on top of the locally 1-4" that fell over the past 24
    hours could bring renewed urban flooding issues. The HREF and REFS probabilities suggest some isolated/localized 2" hourly totals.

    A higher-end Slight exists across much of North Carolina with
    potential of widespread 1-3" of rain through tonight. Locally
    higher amounts will be possible across the upslope region of
    western NC as well as portions of central to eastern NC. Isolated
    rain rates above 2"/hr will be possible, particularly in the
    eastern areas. This could cause isolated to scattered flooding
    issues, particularly for urban areas and in areas of terrain.

    Taylor

    ---previous discussion---

    A deep upper low will be slowly moving north towards the Tennessee
    Valley, dragging a surface low pressure system north with it. The
    trailing cold front will gradually push towards the Atlantic Coast
    while the warm front lifts north into the southern mid-Atlantic.
    This system will direct a stream of deep anomalous moisture into
    the Southeast and Mid-Atlantic that will support widespread showers
    and storms with heavy rain potential across these regions. PWATs
    are expected to surge to over 1.5 inches from Virginia to Georgia
    and over 2 inches over the Florida Peninsula, which will certainly
    provide the needed moisture for elevated rain rates in stronger
    convection.

    A Moderate Risk area has been introduced for the urban corridor of
    Southeast Florida where heavy rain may result in significant
    flooding impacts. The synoptic setup is favorable for a heavy rain
    event over South Florida with deep moisture and southerly winds
    shifting to southwesterly ahead of an approaching cold front. Waves
    of showers and storms are expected throughout the period, and
    there will be plenty of moisture and instability to support high
    rain rates in excess of 2 inches per hour. CAMs are showing the
    potential for 3-4, locally up to seven, inches of rain possible
    today. Yesterday's 18Z HREF was showing 60-70% probability of 24
    hour QPF exceeding 8 inches, but the 00Z HREF dropped probabilities
    of 8 inches in 24 hours down to 40-50%, indicating some
    uncertainty in how high the max QPF amounts may be. Regardless of
    the exact amount, flooding impacts are likely for the urban
    corridor of Southeast Florida.

    To the north, strong south-southeasterly mean flow will focus QPF
    maxes along the Carolina Coast and along upslope regions of the
    southern Appalachians. CAMs have consistently shown 2-4 inches of precipitation, with locally higher amounts possible, over the 24
    hour period in these areas. There was discussion about potentially
    upgrading to a Moderate Risk for sensitive areas in the
    Appalachians, but it was decided to remain at a high-end Slight
    Risk given a lack of instability and limited rain rates. Rain rates
    could periodically exceed 1 inch per hour, which would support
    isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns for the western
    Carolinas and Southwestern Virginia, but most likely would not
    support a risk higher than Slight. The higher rain rates (1-2
    inches per hour) are expected to be in convection near the coasts
    where instability will be higher.

    To cover these flooding threats, a Slight Risk area extends from
    Virginia to the Florida peninsula. There will also be localized
    heavy rain potential across the Tennessee and Mid-Mississippi
    Valleys, Mississippi, and Alabama. There will be decent instability
    in the vicinity of the surface low to produce convection with 1
    inch per hour rain rates. Given that soils in these regions are
    saturated from recent heavy rains, isolated flooding concerns will
    be possible, and therefore a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is
    in place.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    No significant adjustments needed to the Day 2 Update, other than
    expanding the Slight further across portions of central MD based on
    the latest QPF trends.=20

    ---previous discussion---=20


    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue
    to move north, and showers and storms will focus across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. Deep moisture ahead of the system will push
    PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough instability
    (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina and Virginia
    to support high rain rates (1-2 inch per hour), which may rival 1
    and 3 hr FFGs. Upslope flow along the Appalachians from southern
    Pennsylvania through Virginia will also help to enhance rainfall,
    with generally 1.5-2.5 inches of rain expected across this area
    with locally higher amounts possible. After heavy rain on Monday,
    these areas may be more sensitive to flooding given higher soil
    moisture, and isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns are
    expected. This will warrant a continuation of the Slight Risk area
    from northeastern North Carolina through Virginia and portions of
    West Virginia, Maryland, and southern Pennsylvania.

    Isolated flash flooding may also be possible for portions of the
    Ohio Valley and Appalachians. Moisture wrapping around the northern
    side of the low pressure system combined with sufficient
    instability near the surface low will support scattered convection
    with relatively slow storm motion. Therefore, a Marginal Risk is in
    place for these regions.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the Northwest to the
    Plains on Wednesday, resulting in a strengthening low pressure
    system in the northern Plains. Stratiform rain with likely some
    embedded convection on the northern and western side of the low are
    forecast to produce 0.5-1 inches of rain, with locally higher
    amounts possible, in eastern Montana and northeastern Wyoming. The
    main threat will be due to the persistent nature of the
    precipitation in this area, starting up Tuesday night and
    continuing through Wednesday into Wednesday night. Rainfall totals
    will likely come close to the 6 hour FFGs in eastern Montana.

    For the Dakotas, convective precipitation is forecast to develop
    ahead of the low along a strengthening frontal boundary. Models are
    in good agreement on the axis of heaviest precipitation setting up
    over central North Dakota and eastern South Dakota. PWAT values
    are expected to be at least 2 standard deviations above normal
    (1-1.5 inches), and there should be enough instability (MUCAPE >
    1500 J/kg) during the day on Wednesday to support at least an
    isolated flash flood threat.

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic after heavy rain on Monday and Tuesday, which may create a
    low end flood threat with lingering showers on Wednesday. The
    slow-moving surface low is forecast to track right over the Mid-
    Atlantic with scattered precipitation, and there should be enough
    instability near the low to support some convection capable of
    producing locally heavy rain. Therefore, a Marginal Risk area was
    introduced for portions of the Mid-Atlantic. The northern extent of
    the Marginal was nudged further up into portions of southeast PA
    and central NJ based on the 12Z guidance.

    Dolan/Taylor


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_c3ZRWz0DHrWSVz_laeK629_IPgxPniEEsU7uJ6lxL1d= mFC8LdLlJ8mQvtBff_5Yo-PjquFF7xO7YHUDKP8IkoqaZ3Y$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_c3ZRWz0DHrWSVz_laeK629_IPgxPniEEsU7uJ6lxL1d= mFC8LdLlJ8mQvtBff_5Yo-PjquFF7xO7YHUDKP8I29Z59cY$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_c3ZRWz0DHrWSVz_laeK629_IPgxPniEEsU7uJ6lxL1d= mFC8LdLlJ8mQvtBff_5Yo-PjquFF7xO7YHUDKP8INm1P1T0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 13 00:48:25 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 130048
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    848 PM EDT Mon May 12 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Tue May 13 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST FLORIDA...

    ...01Z Update...

    In coordination with MFL/Miami, FL forecast office, the Moderate
    Risk was downgraded to a Slight for the I-95 corridor from West
    Palm Beach south. Much of the convection in the area has moved
    offshore, with only one remaining training band south of Homestead.
    HiRes models continue to suggest occasional storms forming across
    south Florida overnight, but agreement is poor on their coverage.
    Thus, given the expected isolated or widely scattered nature of the
    overnight convection, flash flooding should be isolated for most
    areas.=20

    Elsewhere, the Slight across the Southeast remains largely
    unchanged, though coverage of heavy rainfall from storms is quite
    low, so most areas are in a low-end Slight. That said, a few lines
    of training storms are locally causing flash flooding, so the
    potential for additional line formation and training over other
    areas justifies the continuation of the Slight.

    The Marginal was trimmed on the southern end across the Southeast
    behind the most persistent convection, with the upper low and its
    associated forcing moving north, resulting in a sub-Marginal threat
    for areas further south.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    No significant adjustments needed to the Day 2 Update, other than
    expanding the Slight further across portions of central MD based on
    the latest QPF trends.

    ---previous discussion---


    The slow-moving upper low and occluded surface low will continue
    to move north, and showers and storms will focus across the Mid-
    Atlantic on Tuesday. Deep moisture ahead of the system will push
    PWAT values above 1.5 inches, and there will be enough instability
    (MUCAPE > 1500 J/kg) across portions of North Carolina and Virginia
    to support high rain rates (1-2 inch per hour), which may rival 1
    and 3 hr FFGs. Upslope flow along the Appalachians from southern
    Pennsylvania through Virginia will also help to enhance rainfall,
    with generally 1.5-2.5 inches of rain expected across this area
    with locally higher amounts possible. After heavy rain on Monday,
    these areas may be more sensitive to flooding given higher soil
    moisture, and isolated to scattered flash flooding concerns are
    expected. This will warrant a continuation of the Slight Risk area
    from northeastern North Carolina through Virginia and portions of
    West Virginia, Maryland, and southern Pennsylvania.

    Isolated flash flooding may also be possible for portions of the
    Ohio Valley and Appalachians. Moisture wrapping around the northern
    side of the low pressure system combined with sufficient
    instability near the surface low will support scattered convection
    with relatively slow storm motion. Therefore, a Marginal Risk is in
    place for these regions.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the Northwest to the
    Plains on Wednesday, resulting in a strengthening low pressure
    system in the northern Plains. Stratiform rain with likely some
    embedded convection on the northern and western side of the low are
    forecast to produce 0.5-1 inches of rain, with locally higher
    amounts possible, in eastern Montana and northeastern Wyoming. The
    main threat will be due to the persistent nature of the
    precipitation in this area, starting up Tuesday night and
    continuing through Wednesday into Wednesday night. Rainfall totals
    will likely come close to the 6 hour FFGs in eastern Montana.

    For the Dakotas, convective precipitation is forecast to develop
    ahead of the low along a strengthening frontal boundary. Models are
    in good agreement on the axis of heaviest precipitation setting up
    over central North Dakota and eastern South Dakota. PWAT values
    are expected to be at least 2 standard deviations above normal
    (1-1.5 inches), and there should be enough instability (MUCAPE >
    1500 J/kg) during the day on Wednesday to support at least an
    isolated flash flood threat.

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic after heavy rain on Monday and Tuesday, which may create a
    low end flood threat with lingering showers on Wednesday. The
    slow-moving surface low is forecast to track right over the Mid-
    Atlantic with scattered precipitation, and there should be enough
    instability near the low to support some convection capable of
    producing locally heavy rain. Therefore, a Marginal Risk area was
    introduced for portions of the Mid-Atlantic. The northern extent of
    the Marginal was nudged further up into portions of southeast PA
    and central NJ based on the 12Z guidance.

    Dolan/Taylor


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8-bF188-GdJRPQ-x_DhuXGk4Eic-mP_Br4iOyD1-QsHX= -nNE484Tx79LKE0TSsvuCH0yK4TqL8i81xOqbO0YpHpiFhc$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8-bF188-GdJRPQ-x_DhuXGk4Eic-mP_Br4iOyD1-QsHX= -nNE484Tx79LKE0TSsvuCH0yK4TqL8i81xOqbO0Y9yizaeE$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!8-bF188-GdJRPQ-x_DhuXGk4Eic-mP_Br4iOyD1-QsHX= -nNE484Tx79LKE0TSsvuCH0yK4TqL8i81xOqbO0YAizgwVA$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 13 07:42:00 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 130741
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    341 AM EDT Tue May 13 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    A closed upper low will gradually lift north over the Tennessee=20
    and Ohio Valleys, accompanied by a very slow-moving surface low=20
    pressure system. A stream of deep Gulf/Atlantic moisture will move=20
    into the Mid-Atlantic ahead of the system, increasing PWAT values=20
    to 1.5-2 inches. There will be enough instability (MUCAPE > 1500=20
    J/kg) to support thunderstorm development, some of which may be=20
    strong/deep. The best chances for deep convection with high rain=20
    rates (1-2 inches) will likely be over portions of Virginia and=20
    eastern North Carolina where higher instability will reside, but=20
    persistent upslope enhancement will also contribute to elevated=20
    rain rates over portions of the Appalachians from central and=20
    southern Pennsylvania to Virginia. These areas will likely see 1-3=20
    inches of rainfall today, with locally higher amounts in terrain=20
    and heavier convection. Heavy rain will have the potential to=20
    create isolated to scattered flooding concerns across these areas,=20 warranting a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall.=20

    Elsewhere, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is in effect for
    the Ohio Valley and portions of the Tennessee Valley and interior
    Southeast where scattered diurnal convection is expected underneath
    the upper low. Slow storm motion will contribute to elevated rain
    rates (1+ inch per hour) that could reach or exceed 1 and 3 hour
    FFGs (1-2 inches). Given that soils in these areas are already
    saturated from recent heavy rain, these rain rates could create
    isolated instances of flash flooding.Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the northern Rockies=20
    into the northern Plains late Tuesday into Wednesday, resulting in=20
    a strengthening low pressure system tracking from Wyoming through=20
    North Dakota. Stratiform rain with some embedded convection is=20
    expected on the northern and western side of the low, which should=20
    result in a swath of 0.5-1+ inches of rainfall across central and=20
    eastern Montana on Wednesday. Storm total rainfall will be higher=20
    across Montana due to additional rain falling at the end of the Day
    1 period (Tuesday night). The main concern with this activity will
    be the duration, with rainfall rates potentially reaching 6 hour=20
    FFGs. This could support isolated flash and river flooding=20
    concerns.

    Over the Dakotas, convection is expected to develop along a=20
    strengthening cold front that will push east across the region.=20
    With favorable upper level and surface support, some convection may
    be deep enough to produce 1+ inch per hour rain rates that could=20
    reach or exceed the 1 and 3 hr FFGs (around 1.5-2.5 inches).=20
    Conditions will be supportive of localized heavy rain in stronger=20 convection/thunderstorms, with plentiful moisture (PWATs 1-1.5=20
    inches) and instability (CAPE > 1500 J/kg) in place. The Marginal=20
    Risk of excessive rainfall in the northern Plains includes portions
    of Montana and the Dakotas where isolated to potentially scattered
    instances of flash flooding will be possible. It's possible an=20
    upgrade may be needed for the Dakotas if precip rates and QPF trend
    higher, but we should have a better idea of potential impacts once
    the period is fully within range of the CAMs.=20


    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic by Wednesday due to heavy rain earlier in the week, which=20
    will likely result in a lingering flash flood threat on Wednesday.=20
    The slow-moving surface low is forecast to become nearly stationary
    over the region while gradually weakening, resulting in scattered=20 precipitation through Wednesday night. Enough moisture and=20
    instability are expected in the vicinity of the surface low to=20
    support convection with relatively higher rain rates that could=20
    lead to flooding. The 00Z HREF shows a high probability (60-80%) of
    1 inch per hour rain rates from the Maryland and West Virginia=20
    Panhandles through Virginia to eastern North Carolina and even a=20 low/isolated probability (~20%) of 2 inch per hour rain rates. A=20
    Marginal Risk is in place from southern Pennsylvania through North=20
    Carolina to northeast South Carolina to account for this flood=20
    potential.=20

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER MIDWEST AND NORTHERN PLAINS...

    An occluded low pressure system will lift northeast across the
    Upper Midwest, with showers and storms ahead of the occluded and
    cold fronts and some precipitation wrapping around the backside of
    the system into the northern Plains as well. Slow storm motion and
    repeat activity look like they will be the main threat, which may
    result in rain rates that may reach or exceed the 3 hour FFGs.
    There will be plenty of moisture in place to support elevated rain
    rates with PWAT values reaching 1-1.5 inches. However, instability
    may be a limiting factor. The best instability is expected to be
    further south along the cold front, displaced from the higher QPF
    values. Based on available guidance, a Marginal Risk area should
    suffice to account for the low end flash flood potential.
    Precipitation is forecast to extend across the Great Lakes region
    as well, but rain rates will likely be moderate at best, not
    supporting a flash flood threat at this time.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6oe4mch8UelAr_SGjQC3W6sV84YR1ThqN0equEGE7KXf= 17wGEZ0LIOsZ8KD-muEURlTSci3WGNCAUg764Bvl7kyQdKk$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6oe4mch8UelAr_SGjQC3W6sV84YR1ThqN0equEGE7KXf= 17wGEZ0LIOsZ8KD-muEURlTSci3WGNCAUg764Bvlns-8y7Q$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!6oe4mch8UelAr_SGjQC3W6sV84YR1ThqN0equEGE7KXf= 17wGEZ0LIOsZ8KD-muEURlTSci3WGNCAUg764BvlpgysOMc$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 13 07:49:01 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 130748
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    348 AM EDT Tue May 13 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    A closed upper low will gradually lift north over the Tennessee
    and Ohio Valleys, accompanied by a very slow-moving surface low
    pressure system. A stream of deep Gulf/Atlantic moisture will move
    into the Mid-Atlantic ahead of the system, increasing PWAT values
    to 1.5-2 inches. There will be enough instability (MUCAPE > 1500
    J/kg) to support thunderstorm development, some of which may be
    strong/deep. The best chances for deep convection with high rain
    rates (1-2 inches) will likely be over portions of Virginia and
    eastern North Carolina where higher instability will reside, but
    persistent upslope enhancement will also contribute to elevated
    rain rates over portions of the Appalachians from central and
    southern Pennsylvania to Virginia. These areas will likely see 1-3
    inches of rainfall today, with locally higher amounts in terrain
    and heavier convection. Heavy rain will have the potential to
    create isolated to scattered flooding concerns across these areas,
    warranting a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall.

    Elsewhere, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is in effect for
    the Ohio Valley and portions of the Tennessee Valley and interior
    Southeast where scattered diurnal convection is expected underneath
    the upper low. Slow storm motion will contribute to elevated rain
    rates (1+ inch per hour) that could reach or exceed 1 and 3 hour
    FFGs (1-2 inches). Given that soils in these areas are already
    saturated from recent heavy rain, these rain rates could create
    isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the northern Rockies
    into the northern Plains late Tuesday into Wednesday, resulting in
    a strengthening low pressure system tracking from Wyoming through
    North Dakota. Stratiform rain with some embedded convection is
    expected on the northern and western side of the low, which should
    result in a swath of 0.5-1+ inches of rainfall across central and
    eastern Montana on Wednesday. Storm total rainfall will be higher
    across Montana due to additional rain falling at the end of the Day
    1 period (Tuesday night). The main concern with this activity will
    be the duration, with rainfall rates potentially reaching 6 hour
    FFGs. This could support isolated flash and river flooding
    concerns.

    Over the Dakotas, convection is expected to develop along a
    strengthening cold front that will push east across the region.
    With favorable upper level and surface support, some convection may
    be deep enough to produce 1+ inch per hour rain rates that could
    reach or exceed the 1 and 3 hr FFGs (around 1.5-2.5 inches).
    Conditions will be supportive of localized heavy rain in stronger convection/thunderstorms, with plentiful moisture (PWATs 1-1.5
    inches) and instability (CAPE > 1500 J/kg) in place. The Marginal
    Risk of excessive rainfall in the northern Plains includes portions
    of Montana and the Dakotas where isolated to potentially scattered
    instances of flash flooding will be possible. It's possible an
    upgrade may be needed for the Dakotas if precip rates and QPF trend
    higher, but we should have a better idea of potential impacts once
    the period is fully within range of the CAMs.


    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic by Wednesday due to heavy rain earlier in the week, which
    will likely result in a lingering flash flood threat on Wednesday.
    The slow-moving surface low is forecast to become nearly stationary
    over the region while gradually weakening, resulting in scattered
    precipitation through Wednesday night. Enough moisture and
    instability are expected in the vicinity of the surface low to
    support convection with relatively higher rain rates that could
    lead to flooding. The 00Z HREF shows a high probability (60-80%) of
    1 inch per hour rain rates from the Maryland and West Virginia
    Panhandles through Virginia to eastern North Carolina and even a
    low/isolated probability (~20%) of 2 inch per hour rain rates. A
    Marginal Risk is in place from southern Pennsylvania through North
    Carolina to northeast South Carolina to account for this flood
    potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER MIDWEST AND NORTHERN PLAINS...

    An occluded low pressure system will lift northeast across the
    Upper Midwest, with showers and storms ahead of the occluded and
    cold fronts and some precipitation wrapping around the backside of
    the system into the northern Plains as well. Slow storm motion and
    repeat activity look like they will be the main threat, which may
    result in rain rates that may reach or exceed the 3 hour FFGs.
    There will be plenty of moisture in place to support elevated rain
    rates with PWAT values reaching 1-1.5 inches. However, instability
    may be a limiting factor. The best instability is expected to be
    further south along the cold front, displaced from the higher QPF
    values. Based on available guidance, a Marginal Risk area should
    suffice to account for the low end flash flood potential.
    Precipitation is forecast to extend across the Great Lakes region
    as well, but rain rates will likely be moderate at best, not
    supporting a flash flood threat at this time.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9svYUw24uUaKk7FdUtzd-qP7JJK6LUm4TGcy8Zd1680J= Z2Zx4E2dv62FVPOyqmFLBeOifKVOvFWjXjZ44RWO0l41BeE$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9svYUw24uUaKk7FdUtzd-qP7JJK6LUm4TGcy8Zd1680J= Z2Zx4E2dv62FVPOyqmFLBeOifKVOvFWjXjZ44RWOYGUUd2o$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!9svYUw24uUaKk7FdUtzd-qP7JJK6LUm4TGcy8Zd1680J= Z2Zx4E2dv62FVPOyqmFLBeOifKVOvFWjXjZ44RWOJuoCao0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Tue May 13 15:37:01 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 131536
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1136 AM EDT Tue May 13 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    16Z Update: The overall synoptic pattern remains unchanged with the
    progression at both the surface and upper levels maintaining run to
    run continuity within the hi-res suite. Steady plume of moisture
    between 925-500mb will aid in continued moderate to heavy rain
    signature across the Mid Atlantic with a stronger convective focus
    situated across the Southern Mid Atlantic and Blue Ridge due to
    some marginal clearing as dry air advects aloft under the base of
    the upper low. Current IVT orientation remains sufficient for
    primed easterly upslope across the Central and Northern Blue Ridge
    with waves of heavier QPF migrating west-northwest from the Potomac
    to points west. Latitudinal push of heavier precip will occur this
    evening as the surface low develops across Eastern NC and moves=20
    just offshore towards the VA Capes by the morning. This will align=20
    the moisture advection pattern a bit further north putting areas=20
    from Central and Eastern PA down into the Central Mid Atlantic=20
    urban centers and Delmarva into play for some of the heavier echoes
    anticipated with the setup. The jury is still out on whether the=20
    rates will be sufficient for the Balt/DC metro area during the=20
    forecast, but the urbanization factors are a lean towards=20
    maintaining continuity as any significant rainfall cores and=20
    training echoes could cause some flash flood concerns east of US15.

    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >3" are very high (>70%) within the
    Central Blue Ridge up into the Lower Susquehanna Valley and eastern
    slopes of the Laurels. Pockets of elevated probs (>50%) are present
    for >5" totals as well within the same corridor with the highest
    centered over the Blue Ridge thanks to the textbook easterly
    upslope signature within a core of higher IVT in conjunction with a
    reasonable theta_E maxima that aligns with the terrain. This has
    allowed for a general maintenance of the SLGT risk inherited with
    only minor modifications based on QPF output via latest HREF
    blended mean and prob fields.=20

    Secondary and tertiary QPF maxima are positioned within the Ohio=20
    Valley and portions of Eastern NC due to the proxy of the ULL and=20
    modest buoyancy under the low center for the OV, and persistent=20
    onshore component over Eastern NC during the first half of the=20
    forecast period. Widespread MRGL risk encompasses the SLGT across=20
    much of the Ohio Valley down into parts of the Southeast as=20
    isolated convection pivots around the ULL with some repeated cell=20
    impacts plausible given the slower mean storm motions under the=20
    primary ULL.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A closed upper low will gradually lift north over the Tennessee
    and Ohio Valleys, accompanied by a very slow-moving surface low
    pressure system. A stream of deep Gulf/Atlantic moisture will move
    into the Mid-Atlantic ahead of the system, increasing PWAT values
    to 1.5-2 inches. There will be enough instability (MUCAPE > 1500
    J/kg) to support thunderstorm development, some of which may be
    strong/deep. The best chances for deep convection with high rain
    rates (1-2 inches) will likely be over portions of Virginia and
    eastern North Carolina where higher instability will reside, but
    persistent upslope enhancement will also contribute to elevated
    rain rates over portions of the Appalachians from central and
    southern Pennsylvania to Virginia. These areas will likely see 1-3
    inches of rainfall today, with locally higher amounts in terrain
    and heavier convection. Heavy rain will have the potential to
    create isolated to scattered flooding concerns across these areas,
    warranting a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall.

    Elsewhere, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is in effect for
    the Ohio Valley and portions of the Tennessee Valley and interior
    Southeast where scattered diurnal convection is expected underneath
    the upper low. Slow storm motion will contribute to elevated rain
    rates (1+ inch per hour) that could reach or exceed 1 and 3 hour
    FFGs (1-2 inches). Given that soils in these areas are already
    saturated from recent heavy rain, these rain rates could create
    isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough will push across the northern Rockies
    into the northern Plains late Tuesday into Wednesday, resulting in
    a strengthening low pressure system tracking from Wyoming through
    North Dakota. Stratiform rain with some embedded convection is
    expected on the northern and western side of the low, which should
    result in a swath of 0.5-1+ inches of rainfall across central and
    eastern Montana on Wednesday. Storm total rainfall will be higher
    across Montana due to additional rain falling at the end of the Day
    1 period (Tuesday night). The main concern with this activity will
    be the duration, with rainfall rates potentially reaching 6 hour
    FFGs. This could support isolated flash and river flooding
    concerns.

    Over the Dakotas, convection is expected to develop along a
    strengthening cold front that will push east across the region.
    With favorable upper level and surface support, some convection may
    be deep enough to produce 1+ inch per hour rain rates that could
    reach or exceed the 1 and 3 hr FFGs (around 1.5-2.5 inches).
    Conditions will be supportive of localized heavy rain in stronger convection/thunderstorms, with plentiful moisture (PWATs 1-1.5
    inches) and instability (CAPE > 1500 J/kg) in place. The Marginal
    Risk of excessive rainfall in the northern Plains includes portions
    of Montana and the Dakotas where isolated to potentially scattered
    instances of flash flooding will be possible. It's possible an
    upgrade may be needed for the Dakotas if precip rates and QPF trend
    higher, but we should have a better idea of potential impacts once
    the period is fully within range of the CAMs.


    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic by Wednesday due to heavy rain earlier in the week, which
    will likely result in a lingering flash flood threat on Wednesday.
    The slow-moving surface low is forecast to become nearly stationary
    over the region while gradually weakening, resulting in scattered
    precipitation through Wednesday night. Enough moisture and
    instability are expected in the vicinity of the surface low to
    support convection with relatively higher rain rates that could
    lead to flooding. The 00Z HREF shows a high probability (60-80%) of
    1 inch per hour rain rates from the Maryland and West Virginia
    Panhandles through Virginia to eastern North Carolina and even a
    low/isolated probability (~20%) of 2 inch per hour rain rates. A
    Marginal Risk is in place from southern Pennsylvania through North
    Carolina to northeast South Carolina to account for this flood
    potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER MIDWEST AND NORTHERN PLAINS...

    An occluded low pressure system will lift northeast across the
    Upper Midwest, with showers and storms ahead of the occluded and
    cold fronts and some precipitation wrapping around the backside of
    the system into the northern Plains as well. Slow storm motion and
    repeat activity look like they will be the main threat, which may
    result in rain rates that may reach or exceed the 3 hour FFGs.
    There will be plenty of moisture in place to support elevated rain
    rates with PWAT values reaching 1-1.5 inches. However, instability
    may be a limiting factor. The best instability is expected to be
    further south along the cold front, displaced from the higher QPF
    values. Based on available guidance, a Marginal Risk area should
    suffice to account for the low end flash flood potential.
    Precipitation is forecast to extend across the Great Lakes region
    as well, but rain rates will likely be moderate at best, not
    supporting a flash flood threat at this time.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!55rrlPUHWG2rNolCcre_pdlPErLeC48tGl2cYfB26pII= xCq8H_q_PsTl0Di5TSQdbNw4_P8zHeCDOev0-6pZhjG9ZTQ$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!55rrlPUHWG2rNolCcre_pdlPErLeC48tGl2cYfB26pII= xCq8H_q_PsTl0Di5TSQdbNw4_P8zHeCDOev0-6pZKNu7nOc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!55rrlPUHWG2rNolCcre_pdlPErLeC48tGl2cYfB26pII= xCq8H_q_PsTl0Di5TSQdbNw4_P8zHeCDOev0-6pZui_lhxc$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 131935
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    335 PM EDT Tue May 13 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue May 13 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC...

    16Z Update: The overall synoptic pattern remains unchanged with the
    progression at both the surface and upper levels maintaining run to
    run continuity within the hi-res suite. Steady plume of moisture
    between 925-500mb will aid in continued moderate to heavy rain
    signature across the Mid Atlantic with a stronger convective focus
    situated across the Southern Mid Atlantic and Blue Ridge due to
    some marginal clearing as dry air advects aloft under the base of
    the upper low. Current IVT orientation remains sufficient for
    primed easterly upslope across the Central and Northern Blue Ridge
    with waves of heavier QPF migrating west-northwest from the Potomac
    to points west. Latitudinal push of heavier precip will occur this
    evening as the surface low develops across Eastern NC and moves
    just offshore towards the VA Capes by the morning. This will align
    the moisture advection pattern a bit further north putting areas
    from Central and Eastern PA down into the Central Mid Atlantic
    urban centers and Delmarva into play for some of the heavier echoes
    anticipated with the setup. The jury is still out on whether the
    rates will be sufficient for the Balt/DC metro area during the
    forecast, but the urbanization factors are a lean towards
    maintaining continuity as any significant rainfall cores and
    training echoes could cause some flash flood concerns east of US15.

    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >3" are very high (>70%) within the
    Central Blue Ridge up into the Lower Susquehanna Valley and eastern
    slopes of the Laurels. Pockets of elevated probs (>50%) are present
    for >5" totals as well within the same corridor with the highest
    centered over the Blue Ridge thanks to the textbook easterly
    upslope signature within a core of higher IVT in conjunction with a
    reasonable theta_E maxima that aligns with the terrain. This has
    allowed for a general maintenance of the SLGT risk inherited with
    only minor modifications based on QPF output via latest HREF
    blended mean and prob fields.

    Secondary and tertiary QPF maxima are positioned within the Ohio
    Valley and portions of Eastern NC due to the proxy of the ULL and
    modest buoyancy under the low center for the OV, and persistent
    onshore component over Eastern NC during the first half of the
    forecast period. Widespread MRGL risk encompasses the SLGT across
    much of the Ohio Valley down into parts of the Southeast as
    isolated convection pivots around the ULL with some repeated cell
    impacts plausible given the slower mean storm motions under the
    primary ULL.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A closed upper low will gradually lift north over the Tennessee
    and Ohio Valleys, accompanied by a very slow-moving surface low
    pressure system. A stream of deep Gulf/Atlantic moisture will move
    into the Mid-Atlantic ahead of the system, increasing PWAT values
    to 1.5-2 inches. There will be enough instability (MUCAPE > 1500
    J/kg) to support thunderstorm development, some of which may be
    strong/deep. The best chances for deep convection with high rain
    rates (1-2 inches) will likely be over portions of Virginia and
    eastern North Carolina where higher instability will reside, but
    persistent upslope enhancement will also contribute to elevated
    rain rates over portions of the Appalachians from central and
    southern Pennsylvania to Virginia. These areas will likely see 1-3
    inches of rainfall today, with locally higher amounts in terrain
    and heavier convection. Heavy rain will have the potential to
    create isolated to scattered flooding concerns across these areas,
    warranting a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall.

    Elsewhere, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is in effect for
    the Ohio Valley and portions of the Tennessee Valley and interior
    Southeast where scattered diurnal convection is expected underneath
    the upper low. Slow storm motion will contribute to elevated rain
    rates (1+ inch per hour) that could reach or exceed 1 and 3 hour
    FFGs (1-2 inches). Given that soils in these areas are already
    saturated from recent heavy rain, these rain rates could create
    isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF=20
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Northern Plains...

    20Z Update: The newest update has added a regional SLGT risk across
    portions of North and South Dakota along with the northern fringes
    of Nebraska. The setup will yield a multi-round period of
    convection within an amplifying mid-level pattern where strong
    mid and upper ascent will couple with a persistent north-south
    oriented surface trough bisecting the Dakotas. Afternoon
    destabilization within the confines of a sharpening surface trough
    will lead to scattered convection with slow storm motions as the
    mesocyclones will likely be anchored to the boundary in question.
    Theta_E gradient is well advertised outlining the general
    positioning of the surface trough within all major deterministic
    with boundary layer flow showing a primed convergence pattern in-of
    the boundary. MUCAPE between 1000-2000 J/kg will provide ample
    instability for strengthening updraft capabilities which will
    ultimately tap into an improving moisture advection regime
    downstream of a potent shortwave trough.=20

    The trough in question will become a larger factor for the back
    half of the forecast as the trough axis will swing eastward by
    late-Wednesday afternoon with an increased layer of diffluence
    positioned from the northern Front Range up into the Dakotas. A
    powerful vorticity maxima on the base of the trough will pivot
    quickly to the northeast allowing for a broadened large scale
    forcing mechanism that will trigger a widespread swath of
    convection as it enters into the Northern High Plains. Guidance is
    mostly in tandem with the positioning of the heaviest precip
    located across central and southern SD with the convective pattern
    likely to initiate and grow upscale rapidly as the activity presses
    eastward. LLJ implementation overnight will only exacerbate the
    threat as strengthening shear profiles via local forecast soundings
    indicate an environment that will be mature quite nicely as it
    advances near and over the I-80 corridor.

    There will be an area where both convective schemes will align
    providing the areal QPF average maxima with totals between 1.5-2.5"
    likely with localized totals between 3-5" plausible where there's
    the general overlap. 12z HREF EAS probs for >1" are very high
    (60-80%) within a large swath of Southeast SD where the CAMs are
    most bullish with the overlapped QPF distribution from both
    convective patterns. A secondary maxima extends up into South-
    Central ND where the primary impacts will be stronger cells in-of
    the surface trough with some scattered convective elements as the
    potent mid-level vorticity maxima approaches early Thursday
    morning. There's still some spread on the northern extent, but the
    magnitude of the potential is worthy for the implementation of a
    SLGT risk up into portions of Bismarck's CWA. The SLGT is most
    prominent across southern and Southeast SD where there's growing
    consensus on a dual convective threat with an overlap between two
    impact periods in the forecast window. A MRGL encompasses the
    general SLGT with heavy precip likely to fall as far south as
    Southwest NE, but consensus is forward propagation speeds should
    limit the threat, especially when you add the Sandhill regions
    very high FFG indices.=20

    Kleebauer=20

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    20Z Update: Broad MRGL remains with little variation from run to
    run within the recent deterministic output. CAMs continue to
    pinpoint a round of convection developing under the primary upper
    circulation as it maneuvers eastward through VA. The axis of
    greatest impact will occur over Southeast VA up through the western
    shores of the Chesapeake with a secondary maxima across Northern NJ
    into the Lower Hudson of NY. The latter has a low-prob compared to
    the anticipated convective threat further south due to lack of
    instability and more of a steady-state stratus rainfall with some
    embedded heavier rain cores. A SLGT risk was mulled over across
    Southeastern VA, but CAMs differed on the magnitude and positioning
    of the greatest convective potential. A targeted SLGT is possible
    if future CAMs have a better handle and promote a more significant probabilistic output for heavier rainfall potential. For now,
    localized 1-2" amounts are most likely when assessing the modest
    EAS signal for >1" across Eastern VA (20-35%) and a much lower >2"
    signal (<5%) in the same region. The MRGL was maintained given the
    above data interpretation.

    Kleebauer=20

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic by Wednesday due to heavy rain earlier in the week, which
    will likely result in a lingering flash flood threat on Wednesday.
    The slow-moving surface low is forecast to become nearly stationary
    over the region while gradually weakening, resulting in scattered
    precipitation through Wednesday night. Enough moisture and
    instability are expected in the vicinity of the surface low to
    support convection with relatively higher rain rates that could
    lead to flooding. The 00Z HREF shows a high probability (60-80%) of
    1 inch per hour rain rates from the Maryland and West Virginia
    Panhandles through Virginia to eastern North Carolina and even a
    low/isolated probability (~20%) of 2 inch per hour rain rates. A
    Marginal Risk is in place from southern Pennsylvania through North
    Carolina to northeast South Carolina to account for this flood
    potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER MIDWEST AND NORTHERN PLAINS...

    20Z Update: Little updated was necessary for the previous D3 MRGL
    inheritance across the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest. There's a
    solid QPF magnitude and distribution within the current risk area,
    but a majority of the precip will be subject to a strong axis of
    deformation with rates capped between 0.75-1.25"/hr during peak
    intensity. The heavy rain axis is also subject to the evolution of
    the eventual closed upper circulation that will manifest over the
    Northern Plains, so positioning is favored over ND, but the
    longitudinal placement is spread among the relevant deterministic.
    Ensemble mean QPF footprint and ML output are relatively close, but
    still slightly off set. In either case, locally enhanced rainfall
    from intense dynamics will likely preclude some type of localized
    flooding potential despite the lack of true thermodynamic
    instability factors. Decided continuity was the best way to go for
    the update and will assess in later forecasts for perhaps a
    targeted upgrade.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    An occluded low pressure system will lift northeast across the
    Upper Midwest, with showers and storms ahead of the occluded and
    cold fronts and some precipitation wrapping around the backside of
    the system into the northern Plains as well. Slow storm motion and
    repeat activity look like they will be the main threat, which may
    result in rain rates that may reach or exceed the 3 hour FFGs.
    There will be plenty of moisture in place to support elevated rain
    rates with PWAT values reaching 1-1.5 inches. However, instability
    may be a limiting factor. The best instability is expected to be
    further south along the cold front, displaced from the higher QPF
    values. Based on available guidance, a Marginal Risk area should
    suffice to account for the low end flash flood potential.
    Precipitation is forecast to extend across the Great Lakes region
    as well, but rain rates will likely be moderate at best, not
    supporting a flash flood threat at this time.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7g0m5MFdpAbvqeDSfAYPqN6U97m6nBcFZcBr35FWMHdo= A76Ge1qr-OsURdqnIZS6PcDkfE1_VfLwImRaojjD5Vr5LjI$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7g0m5MFdpAbvqeDSfAYPqN6U97m6nBcFZcBr35FWMHdo= A76Ge1qr-OsURdqnIZS6PcDkfE1_VfLwImRaojjDOzrXOr4$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7g0m5MFdpAbvqeDSfAYPqN6U97m6nBcFZcBr35FWMHdo= A76Ge1qr-OsURdqnIZS6PcDkfE1_VfLwImRaojjD85sRux0$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed May 14 00:07:27 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 140007
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    807 PM EDT Tue May 13 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 01Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Wed May 14 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC AND OHIO VALLEY...

    01Z Update: Realigned the outlook areas a bit based on trends in=20
    satellite and radar imagery across portions of West Virginia and=20
    the adjacent portions of the Mid-Atlantic. Maintained the Marginal=20
    risk area over portions of southeast Ohio where convection with=20
    heavy rainfall occurred earlier in the day had started to weaken=20
    with the loss of daytime heating and upstream cloud tops were=20
    warming and decreasing in areal coverage. Even so...there were=20
    enough signals to suggest additional showers could redevelop. Over
    the Mid- Atlantic region, confluent flow has been strengthening=20
    the focus for training cells aligning with terrain...and the=20
    approach of an upper level trough been aiding pressure falls over=20
    portions of Virginia. With surface dewpoints in the 65 to 70 degree
    range leading to surface based CAPE values on the order of 2000 J=20
    per kg...the environment has been supporting some locally intense=20
    downpours, With loss of solar insolation...the expectation is for=20
    rates to taper off in the 02Z to 04Z range. In addition to the loss
    of daytime heating...cells will begin to encounter a more stable
    airmass as they head north and should result in a more stratiform
    rainfall later.

    Bann

    16Z Update: The overall synoptic pattern remains unchanged with the
    progression at both the surface and upper levels maintaining run to
    run continuity within the hi-res suite. Steady plume of moisture
    between 925-500mb will aid in continued moderate to heavy rain
    signature across the Mid Atlantic with a stronger convective focus
    situated across the Southern Mid Atlantic and Blue Ridge due to
    some marginal clearing as dry air advects aloft under the base of
    the upper low. Current IVT orientation remains sufficient for
    primed easterly upslope across the Central and Northern Blue Ridge
    with waves of heavier QPF migrating west-northwest from the Potomac
    to points west. Latitudinal push of heavier precip will occur this
    evening as the surface low develops across Eastern NC and moves
    just offshore towards the VA Capes by the morning. This will align
    the moisture advection pattern a bit further north putting areas
    from Central and Eastern PA down into the Central Mid Atlantic
    urban centers and Delmarva into play for some of the heavier echoes
    anticipated with the setup. The jury is still out on whether the
    rates will be sufficient for the Balt/DC metro area during the
    forecast, but the urbanization factors are a lean towards
    maintaining continuity as any significant rainfall cores and
    training echoes could cause some flash flood concerns east of US15.

    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >3" are very high (>70%) within the
    Central Blue Ridge up into the Lower Susquehanna Valley and eastern
    slopes of the Laurels. Pockets of elevated probs (>50%) are present
    for >5" totals as well within the same corridor with the highest
    centered over the Blue Ridge thanks to the textbook easterly
    upslope signature within a core of higher IVT in conjunction with a
    reasonable theta_E maxima that aligns with the terrain. This has
    allowed for a general maintenance of the SLGT risk inherited with
    only minor modifications based on QPF output via latest HREF
    blended mean and prob fields.

    Secondary and tertiary QPF maxima are positioned within the Ohio
    Valley and portions of Eastern NC due to the proxy of the ULL and
    modest buoyancy under the low center for the OV, and persistent
    onshore component over Eastern NC during the first half of the
    forecast period. Widespread MRGL risk encompasses the SLGT across
    much of the Ohio Valley down into parts of the Southeast as
    isolated convection pivots around the ULL with some repeated cell
    impacts plausible given the slower mean storm motions under the
    primary ULL.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A closed upper low will gradually lift north over the Tennessee
    and Ohio Valleys, accompanied by a very slow-moving surface low
    pressure system. A stream of deep Gulf/Atlantic moisture will move
    into the Mid-Atlantic ahead of the system, increasing PWAT values
    to 1.5-2 inches. There will be enough instability (MUCAPE > 1500
    J/kg) to support thunderstorm development, some of which may be
    strong/deep. The best chances for deep convection with high rain
    rates (1-2 inches) will likely be over portions of Virginia and
    eastern North Carolina where higher instability will reside, but
    persistent upslope enhancement will also contribute to elevated
    rain rates over portions of the Appalachians from central and
    southern Pennsylvania to Virginia. These areas will likely see 1-3
    inches of rainfall today, with locally higher amounts in terrain
    and heavier convection. Heavy rain will have the potential to
    create isolated to scattered flooding concerns across these areas,
    warranting a Slight Risk of excessive rainfall.

    Elsewhere, a Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall is in effect for
    the Ohio Valley and portions of the Tennessee Valley and interior
    Southeast where scattered diurnal convection is expected underneath
    the upper low. Slow storm motion will contribute to elevated rain
    rates (1+ inch per hour) that could reach or exceed 1 and 3 hour
    FFGs (1-2 inches). Given that soils in these areas are already
    saturated from recent heavy rain, these rain rates could create
    isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Dolan

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Northern Plains...

    20Z Update: The newest update has added a regional SLGT risk across
    portions of North and South Dakota along with the northern fringes
    of Nebraska. The setup will yield a multi-round period of
    convection within an amplifying mid-level pattern where strong
    mid and upper ascent will couple with a persistent north-south
    oriented surface trough bisecting the Dakotas. Afternoon
    destabilization within the confines of a sharpening surface trough
    will lead to scattered convection with slow storm motions as the
    mesocyclones will likely be anchored to the boundary in question.
    Theta_E gradient is well advertised outlining the general
    positioning of the surface trough within all major deterministic
    with boundary layer flow showing a primed convergence pattern in-of
    the boundary. MUCAPE between 1000-2000 J/kg will provide ample
    instability for strengthening updraft capabilities which will
    ultimately tap into an improving moisture advection regime
    downstream of a potent shortwave trough.

    The trough in question will become a larger factor for the back
    half of the forecast as the trough axis will swing eastward by
    late-Wednesday afternoon with an increased layer of diffluence
    positioned from the northern Front Range up into the Dakotas. A
    powerful vorticity maxima on the base of the trough will pivot
    quickly to the northeast allowing for a broadened large scale
    forcing mechanism that will trigger a widespread swath of
    convection as it enters into the Northern High Plains. Guidance is
    mostly in tandem with the positioning of the heaviest precip
    located across central and southern SD with the convective pattern
    likely to initiate and grow upscale rapidly as the activity presses
    eastward. LLJ implementation overnight will only exacerbate the
    threat as strengthening shear profiles via local forecast soundings
    indicate an environment that will be mature quite nicely as it
    advances near and over the I-80 corridor.

    There will be an area where both convective schemes will align
    providing the areal QPF average maxima with totals between 1.5-2.5"
    likely with localized totals between 3-5" plausible where there's
    the general overlap. 12z HREF EAS probs for >1" are very high
    (60-80%) within a large swath of Southeast SD where the CAMs are
    most bullish with the overlapped QPF distribution from both
    convective patterns. A secondary maxima extends up into South-
    Central ND where the primary impacts will be stronger cells in-of
    the surface trough with some scattered convective elements as the
    potent mid-level vorticity maxima approaches early Thursday
    morning. There's still some spread on the northern extent, but the
    magnitude of the potential is worthy for the implementation of a
    SLGT risk up into portions of Bismarck's CWA. The SLGT is most
    prominent across southern and Southeast SD where there's growing
    consensus on a dual convective threat with an overlap between two
    impact periods in the forecast window. A MRGL encompasses the
    general SLGT with heavy precip likely to fall as far south as
    Southwest NE, but consensus is forward propagation speeds should
    limit the threat, especially when you add the Sandhill regions
    very high FFG indices.

    Kleebauer

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    20Z Update: Broad MRGL remains with little variation from run to
    run within the recent deterministic output. CAMs continue to
    pinpoint a round of convection developing under the primary upper
    circulation as it maneuvers eastward through VA. The axis of
    greatest impact will occur over Southeast VA up through the western
    shores of the Chesapeake with a secondary maxima across Northern NJ
    into the Lower Hudson of NY. The latter has a low-prob compared to
    the anticipated convective threat further south due to lack of
    instability and more of a steady-state stratus rainfall with some
    embedded heavier rain cores. A SLGT risk was mulled over across
    Southeastern VA, but CAMs differed on the magnitude and positioning
    of the greatest convective potential. A targeted SLGT is possible
    if future CAMs have a better handle and promote a more significant probabilistic output for heavier rainfall potential. For now,
    localized 1-2" amounts are most likely when assessing the modest
    EAS signal for >1" across Eastern VA (20-35%) and a much lower >2"
    signal (<5%) in the same region. The MRGL was maintained given the
    above data interpretation.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    Soils are expected to be thoroughly saturated across the Mid-
    Atlantic by Wednesday due to heavy rain earlier in the week, which
    will likely result in a lingering flash flood threat on Wednesday.
    The slow-moving surface low is forecast to become nearly stationary
    over the region while gradually weakening, resulting in scattered
    precipitation through Wednesday night. Enough moisture and
    instability are expected in the vicinity of the surface low to
    support convection with relatively higher rain rates that could
    lead to flooding. The 00Z HREF shows a high probability (60-80%) of
    1 inch per hour rain rates from the Maryland and West Virginia
    Panhandles through Virginia to eastern North Carolina and even a
    low/isolated probability (~20%) of 2 inch per hour rain rates. A
    Marginal Risk is in place from southern Pennsylvania through North
    Carolina to northeast South Carolina to account for this flood
    potential.

    Dolan

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER MIDWEST AND NORTHERN PLAINS...

    20Z Update: Little updated was necessary for the previous D3 MRGL
    inheritance across the Northern Plains and Upper Midwest. There's a
    solid QPF magnitude and distribution within the current risk area,
    but a majority of the precip will be subject to a strong axis of
    deformation with rates capped between 0.75-1.25"/hr during peak
    intensity. The heavy rain axis is also subject to the evolution of
    the eventual closed upper circulation that will manifest over the
    Northern Plains, so positioning is favored over ND, but the
    longitudinal placement is spread among the relevant deterministic.
    Ensemble mean QPF footprint and ML output are relatively close, but
    still slightly off set. In either case, locally enhanced rainfall
    from intense dynamics will likely preclude some type of localized
    flooding potential despite the lack of true thermodynamic
    instability factors. Decided continuity was the best way to go for
    the update and will assess in later forecasts for perhaps a
    targeted upgrade.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    An occluded low pressure system will lift northeast across the
    Upper Midwest, with showers and storms ahead of the occluded and
    cold fronts and some precipitation wrapping around the backside of
    the system into the northern Plains as well. Slow storm motion and
    repeat activity look like they will be the main threat, which may
    result in rain rates that may reach or exceed the 3 hour FFGs.
    There will be plenty of moisture in place to support elevated rain
    rates with PWAT values reaching 1-1.5 inches. However, instability
    may be a limiting factor. The best instability is expected to be
    further south along the cold front, displaced from the higher QPF
    values. Based on available guidance, a Marginal Risk area should
    suffice to account for the low end flash flood potential.
    Precipitation is forecast to extend across the Great Lakes region
    as well, but rain rates will likely be moderate at best, not
    supporting a flash flood threat at this time.

    Dolan


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7E4Ndh9k6Ou0-IJ_9dBEktltobqIWBen40aZh0WYsLg0= JEzEzsp5mFNpRDS0jE4QlLGw-5zvsIrln5oW4SttfKbPX_o$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7E4Ndh9k6Ou0-IJ_9dBEktltobqIWBen40aZh0WYsLg0= JEzEzsp5mFNpRDS0jE4QlLGw-5zvsIrln5oW4SttHrHyNUw$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!7E4Ndh9k6Ou0-IJ_9dBEktltobqIWBen40aZh0WYsLg0= JEzEzsp5mFNpRDS0jE4QlLGw-5zvsIrln5oW4SttlSEmocA$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 140733
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    333 AM EDT Wed May 14 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Northern Plains...

    A deep upper level trough centered over the Intermountain West this
    morning will become negatively tilted as an impressive shortwave
    draws plentiful upper level energy into the northern Plains.
    Surface cyclogenesis is expected ahead of this trough over Kansas,
    which will track NNE into south-central North Dakota by Thursday
    morning. A line of convection associated with the leading/eastern
    edge of the trough is moving into far western South Dakota from
    Wyoming, and this line of storms will track NNE over the western
    Dakotas through the morning. The primary flooding threat will be
    from a new line of storms which will develop over western South
    Dakota with peak heating this afternoon, then track very slowly
    eastward, as embedded cells move north, parallel to the line. This
    will result in some training of convection, leading to an isolated
    flash flooding threat.

    In coordination with UNR/Rapid City, SD; FSD/Sioux Falls, SD; and
    ABR/Aberdeen, SD forecast offices, the inherited Slight Risk was
    removed with this update, and the surrounding Marginal shifted well
    to the west of inherited. The westward shift was due largely to a
    shift in the guidance slowing the forward motion of the trough.
    While this increased forecast rainfall amounts some, the area of
    the Dakotas now highlighted is in Moderate to in some localized
    cases Severe drought. Nasa Sport soil moisture imagery shows the
    area has next to no moisture. Thus, despite the potential for heavy
    rainfall at times in some areas, the flooding threat was determined
    to be isolated.

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    Lingering moisture from a slow moving storm system associated with
    a weak upper level negatively tilted trough along with MUCAPE
    values in the area between 1,000 and 1,500 J/kg this afternoon will
    lead to a renewed round of showers and thunderstorms across much of
    the Mid-Atlantic. Due to the movement of the trough however, the
    storms should be rather progressive, which will limit the amount of
    rainfall any one area sees. While the entire area has picked up 1-2
    inches of rain yesterday, thoroughly saturating the near-surface
    soils, expect most areas to see less than an inch of new rain.
    Those localized areas under the stronger storms may perhaps=20
    approach an inch of new rainfall. This should keep flash flooding
    isolated and localized, albeit with some uncertainty. For now the
    area remains in a higher end Marginal with few changes from
    inherited. 00Z HREF guidance shows a high probability of exceeding
    3 and 6 hour FFGs from far western Maryland southeast to the
    Tidewater of Virginia with these storms and low FFGs, but it
    remains unclear as to the impacts from the resultant flooding given
    the significantly lower amounts of rain expected today as compared
    with yesterday.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS...

    The low over the northern Plains will become vertically stacked as
    the upper trough catches up with the surface low. With the new
    vertically stacked low moving only very slowly towards the
    northeast, this will make for a prolonged period of rain on the
    cold/northwest side of the center, as it becomes the comma head
    region of the low. This area of the low is expected to be largely
    devoid of convection given the lack of instability making it quite
    that far north and west. Thus, expect the 2-3 inches of additional
    rainfall from today to have only a minimal impact given the still
    largely dry soils over much of North Dakota. This Marginal was
    shifted well to the west following the latest guidance trends, so
    the Marginal was removed from much of Minnesota due to lack of
    expected rainfall.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 16 2025 - 12Z Sat May 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MIDWEST, TENNESSEE VALLEY, AND OZARKS...

    A potent shortwave trough will round the periphery of the
    vertically stacked low over the northern Plains and upper Great
    Lakes on Friday. This shortwave will tap into a low level jet of
    Gulf moisture riding the prior low's occluded front. This will
    reinvigorate the front, resulting in rather fast northeastward
    moving storms across the Marginal Risk area. Much of this area
    remains saturated for soil moisture from recent prior storms, so
    any training thunderstorms will be capable of producing isolated
    flash flooding. There is poor agreement on the character of the
    storms, which better agreement may have warranted a Slight Risk
    upgrade in part due to the wet soils in this area. For now, will
    continue to monitor the trends in the rainfall guidance for better
    indication on if a Slight Risk upgrade is needed.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_EIB0CGAZ-YsEjA4IX69FZlf7VoeSX5SSFU8B0IjlKiU= 6HY9_qoexXvMZ0WC_bOcyT9gngRVgv0InuCXJVI3YCZAsL0$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_EIB0CGAZ-YsEjA4IX69FZlf7VoeSX5SSFU8B0IjlKiU= 6HY9_qoexXvMZ0WC_bOcyT9gngRVgv0InuCXJVI3RviEhS8$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!_EIB0CGAZ-YsEjA4IX69FZlf7VoeSX5SSFU8B0IjlKiU= 6HY9_qoexXvMZ0WC_bOcyT9gngRVgv0InuCXJVI3_DuTRJQ$=20

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    FOUS30 KWBC 141547
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1147 AM EDT Wed May 14 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE MID-ATLANTIC INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    16Z Update: Portions of the Mid Atlantic extending from the=20
    Tidewater of VA to the northwest across the Central and Northern=20
    Blue Ridge to the Appalachians Front are now in a SLGT risk after=20 coordination with surrounding WFO's. The overall synoptic pattern=20
    remains unchanged with a slow progression of a negatively tilted=20
    500mb trough currently centered over the eastern Ohio Valley when=20
    assessing WV satellite and recent UA analysis. Compared to=20
    yesterday, widespread elevated totals are not likely to be seen=20
    with the anticipated setup as the primary precip schema will lean=20
    to more scattered variety thunderstorms with potential for=20
    localized heavy maxima given the 90th percentile PWATs situated=20
    over the area (12z KIAD sounding of 1.31"). Convection is slowly=20
    beginning to initiate downstream of the mean trough across Southern
    VA into NC with a greater coverage anticipated between 18-00z=20
    during peak diurnal heating. MUCAPE between 500-1500 J/kg will be=20
    co-located within the terrain extending through the Blue Ridge and=20
    adjacent Appalachians with 1000-2000 J/kg bisecting the VA=20
    Tidewater up into Northern VA. This instability presence will be=20
    plenty to help maintain some stronger convective cores capable of=20
    localized rainfall rates between 1-2"/hr at peak intensity. Coupled
    with very low 1/3/6 hr FFG intervals after yesterdays heavy rain=20
    episode, this is sufficient for short term rates to exacerbate=20
    already compromised soils as NASA SPoRT maintains a signature of=20
    90% soil moisture presence across pretty much the entire Central=20
    Mid Atlantic.=20

    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" of precip indicates a broad
    footprint of 50 to 90% over the aforementioned area of focus with
    modest probs (20-40%) for >3" in the same zone. The most concerning
    depiction is within the 3 and 6-hr exceedance probability output
    showing a large chunk of the Blue Ridge, Central Appalachians, and
    Southern Laurels around 40-80% and 50-80% respectively. This is
    typically a good indicator for a locally more significant event
    potential in most areas of the CONUS, but especially over terrain
    with lower FFG indices starting out. This allowed for an upgrade to
    a SLGT risk in those locations extending from the VA Tidewater,
    northwest through parts of Northern VA, Blue Ridge and neighboring
    Shenandoah, into the Central Appalachians. A broad MRGL=20
    encompasses the metro corridor over MD along with Western and=20
    Central PA down towards NC as coverage and impacts are anticipated=20
    to be more isolated in these zones with greatest threat likely=20
    within urban areas due to higher runoff risk.=20

    Kleebauer=20
    =20

    ...Northern Plains...

    16Z Update: After last nights shift of the QPF maxima further west,
    the guidance has come into agreement with little run to run
    variability when assessing the two main CAMs periods. The
    antecedent dry soils will be the "scale tipper" to the MRGL side of
    the threat as convective premise will likely be more of a welcomed
    sight, initially with some localized flood prospects in the Western
    High Plains most likely incurring due to hydrophobic soils if
    rainfall rates breach 2"/hr, or similar rates impacting a town with
    more runoff potential given urbanization factors. The nocturnal MCS
    development off the Front Range into SD/NE will be worth
    monitoring, but if the convection leans closer to the Sandhill
    domain along those borders into NE, the threat for flash flooding
    will likely be muted outside of direct impacts on any towns in the
    path of the complex. The MRGL risk was relatively unchanged given
    the above factors, but pending the output from the first round of
    convection along the lingering surface trough in conjunction with
    the secondary convective onslaught anticipated this evening, a
    targeted upgrade could be plausible. This is something we will
    monitor as the day progresses.=20

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A deep upper level trough centered over the Intermountain West this
    morning will become negatively tilted as an impressive shortwave
    draws plentiful upper level energy into the northern Plains.
    Surface cyclogenesis is expected ahead of this trough over Kansas,
    which will track NNE into south-central North Dakota by Thursday
    morning. A line of convection associated with the leading/eastern
    edge of the trough is moving into far western South Dakota from
    Wyoming, and this line of storms will track NNE over the western
    Dakotas through the morning. The primary flooding threat will be
    from a new line of storms which will develop over western South
    Dakota with peak heating this afternoon, then track very slowly
    eastward, as embedded cells move north, parallel to the line. This
    will result in some training of convection, leading to an isolated
    flash flooding threat.

    In coordination with UNR/Rapid City, SD; FSD/Sioux Falls, SD; and
    ABR/Aberdeen, SD forecast offices, the inherited Slight Risk was
    removed with this update, and the surrounding Marginal shifted well
    to the west of inherited. The westward shift was due largely to a
    shift in the guidance slowing the forward motion of the trough.
    While this increased forecast rainfall amounts some, the area of
    the Dakotas now highlighted is in Moderate to in some localized
    cases Severe drought. NASA SPoRT soil moisture imagery shows the=20
    area has next to no moisture. Thus, despite the potential for heavy
    rainfall at times in some areas, the flooding threat was=20
    determined to be isolated.

    Wegman


    ...Ohio Valley...

    Scattered convective activity within an elevated moisture advection
    regime will occur this afternoon and evening with the greatest
    coverage anticipated in the evening thanks to added forcing from a
    mid-level perturbation moving up from the southwest. Sufficient low
    to mid-level buoyancy coupled with elevated PWATs will help with
    locally heavy rainfall potential across areas extending from
    Southern IN down into KY with totals potentially reaching between
    1-3" in the strongest convective impacts. 12z neighborhood probs
    for >2" are modest (20-40%) across the above area with some
    elevated probs for >1" (50-70%) in the same locale. Considering the
    nature of the soil anomalies >80% within areas of Eastern KY into=20
    the Ohio River basin in conjunction with the heavier rainfall
    rates, a MRGL risk was expanded westward to encompass the threat.

    Kleebauer


    ...Michigan...

    Near record daily PWATs (12z KAPX sounding of 1.37") and
    anticipated lake breeze initiation thanks to strong differential
    heat flux off Lake Michigan will generate a period of slow-moving
    strong convective cores capable of rainfall rates of 1-2"/hr during
    anticipated impact. Modest 10-year ARI exceedance probs based on
    the latest hi-res ensemble suite (15-30%) across Northwest MI
    signal a modest threat for localized flash flood concerns over any
    urban zones within stronger convective cores. The key is the slower
    mean storm motions anticipated with much of the convective
    development likely anchored to the lake breeze and subsequent
    outflow generation. Ensemble mean areal average QPF around 0.5-1"
    with deterministic maxima between 2-3" was enough to warrant a
    targeted MRGL risk issuance within a zone situated west of I-75 and
    just north of I-96 in Lower MI. This is the primary area of concern
    with the greatest threat up closer to Traverse City and points just south.=20=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS...

    The low over the northern Plains will become vertically stacked as
    the upper trough catches up with the surface low. With the new
    vertically stacked low moving only very slowly towards the
    northeast, this will make for a prolonged period of rain on the
    cold/northwest side of the center, as it becomes the comma head
    region of the low. This area of the low is expected to be largely
    devoid of convection given the lack of instability making it quite
    that far north and west. Thus, expect the 2-3 inches of additional
    rainfall from today to have only a minimal impact given the still
    largely dry soils over much of North Dakota. This Marginal was
    shifted well to the west following the latest guidance trends, so
    the Marginal was removed from much of Minnesota due to lack of
    expected rainfall.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 16 2025 - 12Z Sat May 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MIDWEST, TENNESSEE VALLEY, AND OZARKS...

    A potent shortwave trough will round the periphery of the
    vertically stacked low over the northern Plains and upper Great
    Lakes on Friday. This shortwave will tap into a low level jet of
    Gulf moisture riding the prior low's occluded front. This will
    reinvigorate the front, resulting in rather fast northeastward
    moving storms across the Marginal Risk area. Much of this area
    remains saturated for soil moisture from recent prior storms, so
    any training thunderstorms will be capable of producing isolated
    flash flooding. There is poor agreement on the character of the
    storms, which better agreement may have warranted a Slight Risk
    upgrade in part due to the wet soils in this area. For now, will
    continue to monitor the trends in the rainfall guidance for better
    indication on if a Slight Risk upgrade is needed.

    Wegman


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45ijcytYENYVLAXAC-eujfOeau81Fc4oX1LjMVrTTBxL= wdwbT6j1VG01SySYMRJXTZ1euzC2hAGoftJkhtQwriRCRjg$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45ijcytYENYVLAXAC-eujfOeau81Fc4oX1LjMVrTTBxL= wdwbT6j1VG01SySYMRJXTZ1euzC2hAGoftJkhtQwy-iyPVI$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!45ijcytYENYVLAXAC-eujfOeau81Fc4oX1LjMVrTTBxL= wdwbT6j1VG01SySYMRJXTZ1euzC2hAGoftJkhtQwyWTa6bs$=20

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  • From COD Weather Processor@1:2320/105 to wx-storm@lists.illinois.edu on Wed May 14 18:52:23 2025
    FOUS30 KWBC 141852
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    252 PM EDT Wed May 14 2025

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Wed May 14 2025 - 12Z Thu May 15 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    ...Mid-Atlantic...

    16Z Update: Portions of the Mid Atlantic extending from the
    Tidewater of VA to the northwest across the Central and Northern
    Blue Ridge to the Appalachians Front are now in a SLGT risk after
    coordination with surrounding WFO's. The overall synoptic pattern
    remains unchanged with a slow progression of a negatively tilted
    500mb trough currently centered over the eastern Ohio Valley when
    assessing WV satellite and recent UA analysis. Compared to
    yesterday, widespread elevated totals are not likely to be seen
    with the anticipated setup as the primary precip schema will lean
    to more scattered variety thunderstorms with potential for
    localized heavy maxima given the 90th percentile PWATs situated
    over the area (12z KIAD sounding of 1.31"). Convection is slowly
    beginning to initiate downstream of the mean trough across Southern
    VA into NC with a greater coverage anticipated between 18-00z
    during peak diurnal heating. MUCAPE between 500-1500 J/kg will be
    co-located within the terrain extending through the Blue Ridge and
    adjacent Appalachians with 1000-2000 J/kg bisecting the VA
    Tidewater up into Northern VA. This instability presence will be
    plenty to help maintain some stronger convective cores capable of
    localized rainfall rates between 1-2"/hr at peak intensity. Coupled
    with very low 1/3/6 hr FFG intervals after yesterdays heavy rain
    episode, this is sufficient for short term rates to exacerbate
    already compromised soils as NASA SPoRT maintains a signature of
    90% soil moisture presence across pretty much the entire Central
    Mid Atlantic.

    12z HREF neighborhood probs for >2" of precip indicates a broad
    footprint of 50 to 90% over the aforementioned area of focus with
    modest probs (20-40%) for >3" in the same zone. The most concerning
    depiction is within the 3 and 6-hr exceedance probability output
    showing a large chunk of the Blue Ridge, Central Appalachians, and
    Southern Laurels around 40-80% and 50-80% respectively. This is
    typically a good indicator for a locally more significant event
    potential in most areas of the CONUS, but especially over terrain
    with lower FFG indices starting out. This allowed for an upgrade to
    a SLGT risk in those locations extending from the VA Tidewater,
    northwest through parts of Northern VA, Blue Ridge and neighboring
    Shenandoah, into the Central Appalachians. A broad MRGL
    encompasses the metro corridor over MD along with Western and
    Central PA down towards NC as coverage and impacts are anticipated
    to be more isolated in these zones with greatest threat likely
    within urban areas due to higher runoff risk.

    Kleebauer


    ...Northern Plains...

    16Z Update: After last nights shift of the QPF maxima further west,
    the guidance has come into agreement with little run to run
    variability when assessing the two main CAMs periods. The
    antecedent dry soils will be the "scale tipper" to the MRGL side of
    the threat as convective premise will likely be more of a welcomed
    sight, initially with some localized flood prospects in the Western
    High Plains most likely incurring due to hydrophobic soils if
    rainfall rates breach 2"/hr, or similar rates impacting a town with
    more runoff potential given urbanization factors. The nocturnal MCS
    development off the Front Range into SD/NE will be worth
    monitoring, but if the convection leans closer to the Sandhill
    domain along those borders into NE, the threat for flash flooding
    will likely be muted outside of direct impacts on any towns in the
    path of the complex. The MRGL risk was relatively unchanged given
    the above factors, but pending the output from the first round of
    convection along the lingering surface trough in conjunction with
    the secondary convective onslaught anticipated this evening, a
    targeted upgrade could be plausible. This is something we will
    monitor as the day progresses.

    Kleebauer

    ..Previous Discussion..

    A deep upper level trough centered over the Intermountain West this
    morning will become negatively tilted as an impressive shortwave
    draws plentiful upper level energy into the northern Plains.
    Surface cyclogenesis is expected ahead of this trough over Kansas,
    which will track NNE into south-central North Dakota by Thursday
    morning. A line of convection associated with the leading/eastern
    edge of the trough is moving into far western South Dakota from
    Wyoming, and this line of storms will track NNE over the western
    Dakotas through the morning. The primary flooding threat will be
    from a new line of storms which will develop over western South
    Dakota with peak heating this afternoon, then track very slowly
    eastward, as embedded cells move north, parallel to the line. This
    will result in some training of convection, leading to an isolated
    flash flooding threat.

    In coordination with UNR/Rapid City, SD; FSD/Sioux Falls, SD; and
    ABR/Aberdeen, SD forecast offices, the inherited Slight Risk was
    removed with this update, and the surrounding Marginal shifted well
    to the west of inherited. The westward shift was due largely to a
    shift in the guidance slowing the forward motion of the trough.
    While this increased forecast rainfall amounts some, the area of
    the Dakotas now highlighted is in Moderate to in some localized
    cases Severe drought. NASA SPoRT soil moisture imagery shows the
    area has next to no moisture. Thus, despite the potential for heavy
    rainfall at times in some areas, the flooding threat was
    determined to be isolated.

    Wegman


    ...Ohio Valley...

    Scattered convective activity within an elevated moisture advection
    regime will occur this afternoon and evening with the greatest
    coverage anticipated in the evening thanks to added forcing from a
    mid-level perturbation moving up from the southwest. Sufficient low
    to mid-level buoyancy coupled with elevated PWATs will help with
    locally heavy rainfall potential across areas extending from
    Southern IN down into KY with totals potentially reaching between
    1-3" in the strongest convective impacts. 12z neighborhood probs
    for >2" are modest (20-40%) across the above area with some
    elevated probs for >1" (50-70%) in the same locale. Considering the
    nature of the soil anomalies >80% within areas of Eastern KY into
    the Ohio River basin in conjunction with the heavier rainfall
    rates, a MRGL risk was expanded westward to encompass the threat.

    Kleebauer


    ...Michigan...

    Near record daily PWATs (12z KAPX sounding of 1.37") and
    anticipated lake breeze initiation thanks to strong differential
    heat flux off Lake Michigan will generate a period of slow-moving
    strong convective cores capable of rainfall rates of 1-2"/hr during
    anticipated impact. Modest 10-year ARI exceedance probs based on
    the latest hi-res ensemble suite (15-30%) across Northwest MI
    signal a modest threat for localized flash flood concerns over any
    urban zones within stronger convective cores. The key is the slower
    mean storm motions anticipated with much of the convective
    development likely anchored to the lake breeze and subsequent
    outflow generation. Ensemble mean areal average QPF around 0.5-1"
    with deterministic maxima between 2-3" was enough to warrant a
    targeted MRGL risk issuance within a zone situated west of I-75 and
    just north of I-96 in Lower MI. This is the primary area of concern
    with the greatest threat up closer to Traverse City and points just
    south.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu May 15 2025 - 12Z Fri May 16 2025

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE NORTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Northern Plains...

    20Z Update: Very little change necessary from the previous forecast
    as the expected synoptic and mesoscale evolution along with
    reputable precip forecast remains pretty consistent. Locally
    heavier cores will be embedded within the well-defined TROWAL
    located across ND through the period leading to some localized
    flash flood prospects within more urbanized zones. Considering the
    lack of a stronger convective output and rates likely more confined
    between 0.5-1"/hr at peak intensity within the higher QPF
    footprint, the threat for flash flooding will remain within the
    MRGL category.

    Kleebauer=20

    ..Previous Discussion..

    The low over the northern Plains will become vertically stacked as
    the upper trough catches up with the surface low. With the new
    vertically stacked low moving only very slowly towards the
    northeast, this will make for a prolonged period of rain on the
    cold/northwest side of the center, as it becomes the comma head
    region of the low. This area of the low is expected to be largely
    devoid of convection given the lack of instability making it quite
    that far north and west. Thus, expect the 2-3 inches of additional
    rainfall from today to have only a minimal impact given the still
    largely dry soils over much of North Dakota. This Marginal was
    shifted well to the west following the latest guidance trends, so
    the Marginal was removed from much of Minnesota due to lack of
    expected rainfall.

    Wegman

    ...Western Pennsylvania to Central Appalachians...

    Progression of a broad warm front will lead to convective
    development across the Ohio Valley, spreading northeast into
    Western PA and the adjacent highlands of MD/WV to the south. The
    progressive nature of the threat will curb the maximum potential,
    but the low FFG's situated across the higher terrain of the Mid
    Atlantic allows for a greater likelihood with any convective impact
    over the course of the forecast. Some of the CAMs are pretty
    bullish on the overall QPF footprint within the outlined zone with
    some localized 1-2+" totals sprinkled throughout the terrain up
    towards Northwest PA. Neighborhood probs of 60-80% for >1" and
    25-40% for >2" are situated within that area from Erie, PA down to
    Tucker County WV. These probs are sufficient for some flash flood
    risk given the accompanying antecedent conditions. A MRGL risk was
    added to the above region to account for the setup.=20

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri May 16 2025 - 12Z Sat May 17 2025

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF=20
    THE OHIO AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS...

    A potent shortwave trough will round the periphery of the
    vertically stacked low over the northern Plains and upper Great
    Lakes on Friday. This shortwave will tap into a low level jet of
    Gulf moisture riding the prior low's occluded front. This will
    reinvigorate the front, resulting in rather fast northeastward
    moving storms across the risk area. Much of this area remains=20
    saturated given elevated soil moisture anomalies on the latest NASA
    SPoRT due to prior storms, so any training thunderstorms will be=20
    capable of producing flash flooding. The trend over the past 12 hrs
    is for a greater training threat within the confines of the west
    to east oriented front aligned from the Mid-Mississippi Valley
    through the Central Ohio Valley with a proxy close to the Ohio
    River down into KY. With such a well-defined theta_E gradient and
    mean flow becoming more parallel to the boundary orientation, the
    threat for waves of convection to funnel over a general area has
    risen with ensemble bias corrected output and ML QPF placement
    actually a bit further south overall. There is some merit to the
    front being located a bit further into KY as we move closer to the
    event, a trend that has occurred quite often inside 48 hrs with the
    best convection co-located near the better instability access. A
    SLGT risk is now embedded within the broad MRGL from previous
    forecast with the higher risk now running from the Mid-Mississippi
    River basin, east through the Central Ohio Valley to far western
    WV.=20

    Wegman/Kleebauer


    Day 1 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/94epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-oSDwGkaYWDUyksL-IMl-Tas-XXUI7JC3WTH4AFhMb7Q= 1N4zrgR_QVKBtZ1_cdJuR9WXz1oFgPFfedaf8yaSwjJDIQw$=20
    Day 2 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/98epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-oSDwGkaYWDUyksL-IMl-Tas-XXUI7JC3WTH4AFhMb7Q= 1N4zrgR_QVKBtZ1_cdJuR9WXz1oFgPFfedaf8yaSh1g0Anc$=20
    Day 3 threat area: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.go= v/qpf/99epoints.txt__;!!DZ3fjg!-oSDwGkaYWDUyksL-IMl-Tas-XXUI7JC3WTH4AFhMb7Q= 1N4zrgR_QVKBtZ1_cdJuR9WXz1oFgPFfedaf8yaShSdLJWM$=20

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