Re: Question on FTS-0001
By: Rob Swindell to deon on Tue Oct 17 2023 11:24 pm

FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. You can wish it did, but it just doesn't.

I dont wish it did.

FTS-0001 talks about packed messages - which is what I'm talking about.

I'm not sure what your refering to though...


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Hey Björn!

When was the last time you bought a desktop computer,

Fairly recently except I call them PCs, sometimes servers when appropriate.

other than an Apple variant,

Never. Vastly overpriced label makers.

that did *not* have Windows pre-installed?

That never happened. I did have a laptop that had Windows pre-installed but it never stood a chance and it never got booted before the drive was wiped out and replaced with Linux. I still have it but hardly ever use it. The last thing I installed on there was the latest Slackware-current. It needs upgrading. I figure linux-6.6 which should be soon.

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Björn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Dan Clough -> Björn Felten skrev 2023-10-18 02:52:

What I do know is that to actually have/use that OS, you have to either purchase it,

Or you can purchase a desktop computer.

Okay, so even though you won't say it, you do concede that getting/using FreeDOS is indeed more readily available.

When was the last time you bought a desktop computer, other than an
Apple variant, that did *not* have Windows pre-installed?

Probably around 1996 or so. I don't buy desktop computers. I buy the
pieces and assemble them myself, and Windoze is not part of that.

Game. Set. Match.



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Re: Question on FTS-0001
By: deon to Rob Swindell on Wed Oct 18 2023 07:04 pm

Re: Question on FTS-0001
By: Rob Swindell to deon on Tue Oct 17 2023 11:24 pm

FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. You can wish it did, but it just doesn't.

I dont wish it did.

FTS-0001 talks about packed messages - which is what I'm talking about.

I'm not sure what your refering to though...

FTS-1 talks about packed *netmail* messages, which are different than packed *echomail* messages.
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Re: Question on FTS-0001
By: Rob Swindell to deon on Wed Oct 18 2023 05:46 pm

Re: Question on FTS-0001
By: deon to Rob Swindell on Wed Oct 18 2023 07:04 pm

Re: Question on FTS-0001
By: Rob Swindell to deon on Tue Oct 17 2023 11:24 pm

FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. You can wish it did, but it just doesn't.

I dont wish it did.

FTS-0001 talks about packed messages - which is what I'm talking about.

I'm not sure what your refering to though...

Let me try further clarifcation: when FTS-1 (FSC-1) was first written, there was only one type of FidoNet message: the one-to-one private message that we now call "netmail". It wasn't until the invention described in FTS-4 that one-to-many messages (then called "conference mail", but now commonly called "echomail") was introduced. So every reference to a "message" in FTS-1 is implicitly a reference to a "netmail message". There's no mention of "netmail" or "echomail" in FTS-1 because there these terms were not in use when originally written since there was no need to disambiguate between one-to-one and one-to-many FidoNet messages. Only the former existed... until "conference mail" (and FTS-4) came along. FSC/FTS-1 was likely formalized and published some time after conference mail (echomail) was introduced and commonplace, but the orgins and chronological evolution of FidoNet was maintained in the incremental numbering and increasing comprehensiveness of the published specs. FTS-1 isn't supposed to paint the complete picture of FTN, just the foundation (with some extraneous, some now-obsolete, details thrown in for historic context).
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