Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
By: Gamgee to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 16:06:36

Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

I have always preferred 'Pan'.

looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could not make it show the actual message but the headers only.

Mindsurfer

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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
By: Gamgee to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 16:06:36

Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

I have always preferred 'Pan'.

looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could
not make it show the actual message but the headers only.

Well, have you tried looking at the "View" section in the top toolbar?

I mean....



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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
By: Gamgee to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 19:43:43

Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

I have always preferred 'Pan'.

looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could not
make it show the actual message but the headers only.

Well, have you tried looking at the "View" section in the top toolbar?
I mean....

I have installed Pan once again to check if i missed a setting and what can i say. It does show the body now. No idea what was wrong before or if it takes some time to load the body for each message after the headers. i don't know.

Mindsurfer

PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

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Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
By: Accession to Stephan Gebbers on Sun Nov 02 2025 20:25:17

i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet.

Here's a post using slrn, which shells out to nano when I post or reply.

The "From" field includes an email in one post and the "To" field contains
the "newsgroup area tag" etc. It is Usenet that has to fit into FTNs.

Ok, thats interesting. i might send out some more tests and watch how the actual message looks outside the Newsreader, in the BBS.

I'm not sure why Thunderbird put the newsgroup area tag in the "To" field, but that can probably be changed in your Thunderbird settings. Out of both posts that came through, neither of them show your email in the "From" field, so either Synchronet or clrghaus probably removed that for you.

One of the main things that bothers me about NNTP is by default all of your posts will be "To: All" unless you are able to force the "x-comment-to" field, which is doable in slrn as you can see this message is to you. It's also doable with Thunderbird with some messing with the config, but it's ugly.

I accidently messed up an smtp server setting in Thunderbird while testing around with the newsgroups yesterday. Took me a while to add that SMTP again and to find out that i have an application password for that Email provider different from the providers website login =) LOL

still thinking about if i want to test slrn. Not sure if i want another TUI interface for reading/posting messages.

Mindsurfer

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On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 23:03:46 -0600, "MRO" (VERT/BBSESINF) wrote:

i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet. The "From" field includes an email in one post

your from field contains an entire email?

sending this from Pan Newsreader as a test.

Mindsurfer
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Hey Mindsurfer!

On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 17:33:00 +0000, you wrote:

PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

Short answer, no.

Non-colored ansi (ascii) can be viewed in any newsreader that supports the CP437 charset. I'm not sure about Pan, but Claws Mail does, and Thunderbird does not. However, as soon as color is added, no newsreader that I've tried knows what an ANSI is. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Mindsurfer!

On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 17:42:00 +0000, you wrote:

Ok, thats interesting. i might send out some more tests and watch how
the actual message looks outside the Newsreader, in the BBS.

Sure, that's a good way of testing.

I accidently messed up an smtp server setting in Thunderbird while
testing around with the newsgroups yesterday. Took me a while to add
that SMTP again and to find out that i have an application password for
that Email provider different from the providers website login =) LOL

Whoops!

still thinking about if i want to test slrn. Not sure if i want another
TUI interface for reading/posting messages.

What TUI interfaces do you already have?

Here is some screenshots of how it could look. Obviously, you can make it look however you want:

https://www.slrn.org/screenshots.html https://screenshots.debian.net/package/slrn

If you do decide to try it, get it from here and compile it yourself:

https://github.com/jedsoft/slrn

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Mindsurfer!

On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 22:19:00 +0000, you wrote:

On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 23:03:46 -0600, "MRO" (VERT/BBSESINF) wrote:

i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet.
The "From" field includes an email in one post

your from field contains an entire email?

sending this from Pan Newsreader as a test.

Mindsurfer
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Looked good from this angle. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Mindsurfer wrote to Gamgee <=-

I have always preferred 'Pan'.

looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could not
make it show the actual message but the headers only.

Well, have you tried looking at the "View" section in the top toolbar?
I mean....

I have installed Pan once again to check if i missed a setting and what can i say. It does show the body now. No idea what was wrong before or
if it takes some time to load the body for each message after the
headers. i don't know.

Okay.

PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

I don't think so, and I hope not. It's a news (text) reader.




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